Yes, this is what he said! The truth is that the majority of the Democrats and their following have undermined our troops since day 1. Our troops have done their job and they have done it well.  Mark Finkelstein outlined Gen. Barry McCaffreys assessment of Iraq. Today, on Hardball, McCaffrey told Chris Matthews that it would be a military mistake and political disaster for the Dems to impose a binding timetable for withdrawal. He added that in the last 45 days since Gen. Petraeus got there, “the short term indicators are immeasurably better.”
- “We have brilliant military and civilian leadership on the ground in Iraq. General Dave Petraeus, LTG Ray Odierno, and Ambassador Ryan Crocker have the country’s treasure and combat power at their disposal. Our cause is just. The consequence of failure will be severe.”
- “The Iraqi people are encouraged” and “life is almost immediately springing back in many parts of the city. The murder rate has plummeted. IED attacks on US forces during their formerly vulnerable daily transits from huge US bases on the periphery of Baghdad are down – since these forces are now permanently based in their operational area.”
- “The Iraqis have finally committed credible numbers Of integrated police and army units to the Battle Of Baghdad. The strength of IA, IP, and NP units has steadily gone up aided by clever monetary and troop leader incentives. The ISF formations are showing increased willingness to aggressively operate against insurgent/militia forces. Although there is continuing political interference by politicians of both the Iraqi Administration and legislators – this is clearly a serious urban security operation.”
- “The equipment and resources for the Iraqi security forces has increased dramatically” While “Maliki has pushed to create a larger security force.” The ISF has planned 2007 expenditures of more than $7.3 billion. The Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of the Interior are the only two of 27 Iraqi Ministries that have executed their budgets at 90% plus satisfactory rates. (General Petraeus is now putting US military liaison officers in ten additional civilian Ministries to jump start their budget process.) PM Maliki has pushed to create a larger security force of more than 100,000 Iraqi Army troops.”
- “There is a very sophisticated and carefully integrated approach by the Iraqi government and coalition actors to defuse the armed violence from internal enemies and bring people into the political process. Reconciliation of the internal warring elements in Iraq will be how we eventually win the war in Iraq – if it happens. : There are encouraging signs that the peace and participation message does resonate with many of the more moderate Sunni and Shia warring factions.”
And the liberals scream when they are called troop haters! Imagine that!Â
See: Video: Bush quotes Iraq the Model , ASTONISHING CYNICISM SHOWN BY THE DEMOCRATS, “And Then The War Will Be A Fully American War“
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Want to know who the military had no confidence in as a leader? Bill Clinton. How can a military have confidence in a CinC who has stated that he loathes the military?
I was formerly an officer in the USAR. In 1997 I resigned my commission out of disgust with Klinton and what he was doing to the military. I finally had enough and knew I could no longer serve under such a degenerate, disgraceful CIC.
Sorry hit the submit key by accident. The MTOE describes exactly what every unit is supposed to have personnel and equipment wise in the entire military. There is NO excuse for ANYONE in Congress to say they don’t know what a military unit is supposed to have or how many of a given item the military needs to meet demands. It’s spelled out in black and white in one VERY thick book. Instead of building a $250,000,000 bridge to an island with only 50 residents in Alaska, or sending $25,000,000 to a spinach grower for not keeping his crops safe to eat, maybe they should spend that money to actually provide the soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines defending this country with the equipment they need rather than their congressional districts with pork. Exactly how many Robert Byrd libraries does West Virginia need anyway?
The MTOE—that brings back a lot of memories. That’s one thing for sure about the military: every aspect, from how to wear the uniform to tactics to how to maintain equipment, is specified precisely in a TM, AR, or other sort of document.
25- “it isn’t a political or economic reason for the terror, it is a religious reason.”
The reason for the terrorists themselves is a religious reason. But the motivation for the people in the region to passively support/approve the terrorists or even become themselves in terrorists, is not the religious one.
In other parts of the world also terrorism/sts exist for other reasons and there you don’t have such strong ties between terror-like fighting people and the civilian population. It is not natural for people who are pleased with their situation and are able to care for their family without threats like hunger or war, to voluntarilly bring themselves in a position that hold that risk of getting harmed. If you have nothing to lose, you are more willing to listen to people that promise to change your bad state.
Congrats SF Liberal .. obviously you get under the skin here enough to have engendered your own thread!
Well done!:smile:
43-The difference between the 2 of you is that he can articulate his position.
SFL, I’m not certain that praise from Eben is something you’d really want. Eben also praises and admires Rosie O’Dumbbell…
…been camping this past weekend. Pinnacles National Mounument south of Salinas. Great hiking, and I even got to go into a cave…
so…
“Perhaps SFL can clear it up. If he meant what you say, then he is wrong. If he meant what I interpreted as saying then he isn’t.”
I did already.
Look at #6
I said: “Yes of course most of the troops have (performed brilliantly), but the Military as a whole has been led into this disaster by incompetent civilian leadership – The Bush Administration.”
I’m pretty sure that erases all doubt about my support for the actual troops themselves.
I stand by my statement, but I suppose I should amend it a bit:
“I’m convinced that the American Military – led by the Bush Administration - would perform just as poorly in Iran, if not worse, than it has in Iraq.”
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“Congrats SF Liberal .. obviously you get under the skin here enough to have engendered your own thread!”
Yeah, it’s actually my second.
No really, most of the gang here, I’m sure, are probably real nice people if we were to met them in “real life”…I hope nobody takes me serious enough to let me get under their skin.
46- Sounds like you had a great trip! Thanks for sharing.:smile:
Yes you did clear up what you meant, and it was appreciated. The amended version is more to your way of speaking so thanks for that.
Nope, you don’t get under my skin, and I wouldn’t lead a post with your words if I didn’t feel you couldn’t handle it. You add much to a conversation and you take it all in stride.