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	<title>Comments on: JACK IDEMA IS A FREE MAN</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/04/11/jack-idema-is-a-free-man/comment-page-1/#comment-416041</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 04:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn&#039;t Penn State. That was the University of Pennsylvania. You know the $50+k a year Ivy League college that sits in the middle of one of the roughest neighborhoods in Philadelphia. I was working at Foot Locker in downtown Philly when that happened. For those who are interested, Drexel University is just up the street and both are in a VERY bad neighborhood. 

On the Jack Idema front, supposedly he was there as part of a military counterterrorism operation that was operating under the radar (watch CBS&#039; &quot;The Unit&quot; for an idea of how these kinds of units operate) and picked up a Taliban supporter with Al Quaeda connections and very strong polical ties to the Karzai government. This was an embarrassment to the State Department so they had his team arrested, took their credentials, and had a kangaroo court of Taliban supporters convict and then imprison them. The conviction was thrown out on appeal, but the State Department and CIA have  been doing everything in their power to prevent Jack and his team from returning to the US for fear they may have the documentation necessary to prove State and CIA involvement in their arrest and imprisonment. 

Does that clear things up Tofu? Basically the story is that Jack Idema and his team were making people in State and the CIA look bad, so State and CIA had him arrested, imprisoned and tortured by the locals. If, like a lot of liberals, you are complaining about the US snatching terror suspects for interrogation in secret prisons, this should frighten you. This isn&#039;t a terror suspect being turned over to the Egyption government for interrogation, this was an &lt;strong&gt;innocent US citizen&lt;/strong&gt; held illegally and tortured at the behest of the State Dept and CIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t Penn State. That was the University of Pennsylvania. You know the $50+k a year Ivy League college that sits in the middle of one of the roughest neighborhoods in Philadelphia. I was working at Foot Locker in downtown Philly when that happened. For those who are interested, Drexel University is just up the street and both are in a VERY bad neighborhood. </p>
<p>On the Jack Idema front, supposedly he was there as part of a military counterterrorism operation that was operating under the radar (watch CBS&#8217; &#8220;The Unit&#8221; for an idea of how these kinds of units operate) and picked up a Taliban supporter with Al Quaeda connections and very strong polical ties to the Karzai government. This was an embarrassment to the State Department so they had his team arrested, took their credentials, and had a kangaroo court of Taliban supporters convict and then imprison them. The conviction was thrown out on appeal, but the State Department and CIA have  been doing everything in their power to prevent Jack and his team from returning to the US for fear they may have the documentation necessary to prove State and CIA involvement in their arrest and imprisonment. </p>
<p>Does that clear things up Tofu? Basically the story is that Jack Idema and his team were making people in State and the CIA look bad, so State and CIA had him arrested, imprisoned and tortured by the locals. If, like a lot of liberals, you are complaining about the US snatching terror suspects for interrogation in secret prisons, this should frighten you. This isn&#8217;t a terror suspect being turned over to the Egyption government for interrogation, this was an <strong>innocent US citizen</strong> held illegally and tortured at the behest of the State Dept and CIA.</p>
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		<title>By: snowy egret</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/04/11/jack-idema-is-a-free-man/comment-page-1/#comment-410698</link>
		<dc:creator>snowy egret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ever became of FREEDOM OF SPEECH cant anyone say anything with out risking their neck or having JESSIE JACKASSON and AL(RACE BAITER)SHARPTON and the NAACP be demanding their head? Kind of reminds me of back when that student was expelled from PENN STATE for calling some black women WATER BUFFALO becuase they were making loud annoying noises and he got back in after brining suit, maybe he should bring suit agsinst not only those who fired him but bring a suit agsinst AL SHARPTON as well:roll::idea:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ever became of FREEDOM OF SPEECH cant anyone say anything with out risking their neck or having JESSIE JACKASSON and AL(RACE BAITER)SHARPTON and the NAACP be demanding their head? Kind of reminds me of back when that student was expelled from PENN STATE for calling some black women WATER BUFFALO becuase they were making loud annoying noises and he got back in after brining suit, maybe he should bring suit agsinst not only those who fired him but bring a suit agsinst AL SHARPTON as well:roll::idea:</p>
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		<title>By: Toasted Tofu</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/04/11/jack-idema-is-a-free-man/comment-page-1/#comment-410157</link>
		<dc:creator>Toasted Tofu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone clue me in using a short paragraph as to why I should care about this man&#039;s circumstance?  Did he go over the Afghanistan with the blessing of the our military or government?  Was he arrested under orders of our government/military?

Sorry if I didn&#039;t dig into the links and try to figure it all out, but it sounds like a private US citizen was trying to play Jack Bauer without an endorsement from the US government. :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone clue me in using a short paragraph as to why I should care about this man&#8217;s circumstance?  Did he go over the Afghanistan with the blessing of the our military or government?  Was he arrested under orders of our government/military?</p>
<p>Sorry if I didn&#8217;t dig into the links and try to figure it all out, but it sounds like a private US citizen was trying to play Jack Bauer without an endorsement from the US government. <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/04/11/jack-idema-is-a-free-man/comment-page-1/#comment-410059</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 03:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His story could make a GREAT movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His story could make a GREAT movie.</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/04/11/jack-idema-is-a-free-man/comment-page-1/#comment-409953</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing that I would add is that were I Jack, I&#039;d make DAMN SURE I had people I could trust around me for the next 6 months, or however long it takes for this to come out in court. He&#039;s a HUGE moving target at the moment and some in the CIA are more likely to want him dead than Bin Laden. He threatens their high paying jobs and pensions, Osama Bin Laden insures them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing that I would add is that were I Jack, I&#8217;d make DAMN SURE I had people I could trust around me for the next 6 months, or however long it takes for this to come out in court. He&#8217;s a HUGE moving target at the moment and some in the CIA are more likely to want him dead than Bin Laden. He threatens their high paying jobs and pensions, Osama Bin Laden insures them.</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad news for Jack&#039;s enemies. I wouldn&#039;t make book on any of them living very long if he gets out of Afghanistan with the evidence to show who was involved in his illegal imprisonment and torture. Especially if the low level flunkies have evidence that indicates that they were acting on orders from higher ups. They&#039;ll be caught between a really pissed off special operations community and upper level CIA officers with no compunction about Vince Fostering a subordinate to save their own asses. Keep in mind that many of the current batch of upper level officers in the CIA got their jobs during the Clinton administration wherein killing your own (Ruby Ridge, Waco) was far more desirable than killing the enemy (Osama Bin Laden).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad news for Jack&#8217;s enemies. I wouldn&#8217;t make book on any of them living very long if he gets out of Afghanistan with the evidence to show who was involved in his illegal imprisonment and torture. Especially if the low level flunkies have evidence that indicates that they were acting on orders from higher ups. They&#8217;ll be caught between a really pissed off special operations community and upper level CIA officers with no compunction about Vince Fostering a subordinate to save their own asses. Keep in mind that many of the current batch of upper level officers in the CIA got their jobs during the Clinton administration wherein killing your own (Ruby Ridge, Waco) was far more desirable than killing the enemy (Osama Bin Laden).</p>
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		<title>By: Cao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a collection of idiots who are responsible...kind of like the Murder on the Orient Express story.  One of the ones who proudly takes credit for it is Joe Cafasso, &lt;a href=&quot;http://caosblog.com/4832&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;At Fox News, the Colonel Who Wasn&#039;t&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.  Cafasso put up an entire blog called &lt;a href=&quot;http://stuporpatriots.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stuporpatriots&lt;/a&gt; he is so consumed with destroying him.  Joe and his buddies are the same type of people as Plame&#039;s cronies, methinks.  And on the same side of the ideological aisle.

Thanks for putting this up, Peejz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a collection of idiots who are responsible&#8230;kind of like the Murder on the Orient Express story.  One of the ones who proudly takes credit for it is Joe Cafasso, <a href="http://caosblog.com/4832" rel="nofollow">&#8220;At Fox News, the Colonel Who Wasn&#8217;t&#8221;</a>.  Cafasso put up an entire blog called <a href="http://stuporpatriots.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Stuporpatriots</a> he is so consumed with destroying him.  Joe and his buddies are the same type of people as Plame&#8217;s cronies, methinks.  And on the same side of the ideological aisle.</p>
<p>Thanks for putting this up, Peejz.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peejz, who is the asshole behind Jack&#039;s imprisonment?  One of Valerie Plame&#039;s cronies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peejz, who is the asshole behind Jack&#8217;s imprisonment?  One of Valerie Plame&#8217;s cronies?</p>
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