Automatic citizenship for an illegals child? There is talk of changing that to your way, with the right of the child being that they can be full citizens but not their parent. Therefore, they can leave the child here with a legal family and have that child grow up in this country, or that child can go back to their parents homeland and then return when they are an adult.

As to the Amnesty after the Civil War, or even the Vietnam War, we are still talking about American citizen’s.

Why do you hate Southerners? Is it because they by and large hold moral values you despise?

Also, Tofu, to change the born in America, automatic citizenship takes a Constitutional Amendment. This is not something Bush or Clinton can change by Presidential order. So, get your BDS treated. Your hate is going to kill you, not people you piss off with your hateful treatment.

As for being ‘born’ here, no. Unless at least one of your parents holds a legal status, then no friggin way.

And as for Lincoln or Johnson, it doesn’t much matter. My point is still the same. But Johnson is the one to ultimately gave the amnesty pardon and the reason all those millions under us in the lower states are not felons.

No, you are born here and you are automatically a citizen, if not, you knock on the front door.

Lincoln offered full amnesty in 1863 in order to bring peace, but is was 28 months until Lee surrendered.  After Lincoln offered this, : Andrew Johnson, Amnesty Proclamation, 29 May 1865

Won’t happen though. Business WANTS the cheap labor. And Bush works for Wall Street, not you.

And Peejz, with regard to the civil war, I was referring to President Andrew Johnson, not Lincoln, who issued a series of amnesty proclamations and ended with an unconditional pardon to all individuals who participated in the rebellion.