45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids
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Police found details of the discussions on a site run by one of a three-strong “cyber-terrorist” gang.
They were discovered at the home of Younis Tsouli, 23, Woolwich Crown Court in south-east London heard.
One message read: “We are 45 doctors and we are determined to undertake jihad and take the battle inside America.
“The first target which will be penetrated by nine brothers is the naval base which gives shelter to the ship Kennedy.” This is thought to have been a reference to the USS John F Kennedy, which is often at Mayport Naval Base in Jacksonville, Florida.
The message discussed targets at the base, adding: “These are clubs for naked women which are opposite the First and Third units.”
It also referred to using six Chevrolet GT vehicles and three fishing boats and blowing up petrol tanks with rocket propelled grenades.


July 5, 2007 - 12:57 PM on July 5th, 2007
Physician heal thyself!!!
I would execute every last one of them.
July 5, 2007 - 01:41 PM on July 5th, 2007
First of all I think we need to address the root cause of oppression and depression and poverty, oh WAIT, they were DOCTORS! Educated! Yup! Does this mean the ideology of Islam they keep spouting should be believed?
July 5, 2007 - 01:42 PM on July 5th, 2007
ah, the “religion of peace”
July 5, 2007 - 01:46 PM on July 5th, 2007
Ahh look at them their picture should included WATNED DEAD OR ALIVE 250:000 PASAQUAS:roll:
July 5, 2007 - 05:08 PM on July 5th, 2007
How can someone be a doctor and so brainless in the same time!!? How could they get convinced that terrorist ideas are any compatible with what’s written in the Qur’an ???
July 5, 2007 - 06:50 PM on July 5th, 2007
Well, time to turn the entire discussion over to the government for gleaning and track down these miscreants. Oh Wait, the ACLU will sue to protect their rights to plan attacks on US military installations without hindrence, as well as their right to Habeus Corpus, their right to an attorney, etc etc. Too bad those rights only apply to citizens. Time to track down the terrorists and deal with them like the Mossad does, a small caliber bullet to the back of the head and left face down in the street. In the right alleyways, they’d just look like mugging victims.
July 6, 2007 - 01:22 AM on July 6th, 2007
“their right to an attorney, etc etc. Too bad those rights only apply to citizens.” If I understand what you’re writing, I’m very surprised!! I don’t see why removing rights from this type of guys is any good thing. On the contrary, I believe in giving them the same rights as any other citizen, including the right to spend their whole life in prison, the right not to be tortured (otherwise we become just as bad)…
July 6, 2007 - 02:08 AM on July 6th, 2007
They are lower than animals, imo. They have less rights than animals, imo.
July 6, 2007 - 04:45 AM on July 6th, 2007
45 doctors?
Well it could have been worse…
Just imagine 45 lawyers, used car salesmen or insurance agents. THAT would have been a curse!!!
July 6, 2007 - 06:23 AM on July 6th, 2007
or 45 germans, frenchmen or spaniards….YIKES!
July 6, 2007 - 06:56 AM on July 6th, 2007
10- No…
Europeans terrorize the US more subtle… look at the euro/dollar ratio and start crying, Mike…
July 6, 2007 - 06:56 AM on July 6th, 2007
Nickele, The only right those 45 ought to have is the rignt not to have their brains blown out if they raise their hands and surrender peacefully when caught.
July 6, 2007 - 06:57 AM on July 6th, 2007
11, that is just George Soros manipulating currency again.
July 6, 2007 - 07:03 AM on July 6th, 2007
look at your pay stub and your 70% income tax and start crying, douche.
July 6, 2007 - 07:46 AM on July 6th, 2007
“Europeans terrorize the US more subtle: look at the euro/dollar ratio and start crying, Mike:”
LOL- that has nothing to do with European, but is more a function of the gold exchqange cause by our deficit with China. When Italy leaves the EU and with the impending collapse of the Euro, it is apparent that you have NO idea what you are talking abut matthias…again.
July 6, 2007 - 07:47 AM on July 6th, 2007
5.
Idealogues come in many forms- professions or education has little to do with it.
July 6, 2007 - 08:03 AM on July 6th, 2007
the Koran IS the source for the terrorist ideals.
nitwit.
July 6, 2007 - 10:19 AM on July 6th, 2007
[...] If these many doctors of death were all well-bred, well-adjusted eldest sons of literate, monogamous households ” well, in that case we’re in even worse trouble than has been reported. [...]
July 6, 2007 - 10:25 AM on July 6th, 2007
The islamist terrorists do just like some supposed Christians : they advertise the killing of others, against what’s written in the Bible/Koran. If a Christian were in front of an unarmed terrorist and if he killed him, that so-called Christian would have done the exact opposite the Bible says, but would be convinced otherwise.
14 – I look at my income tax and I feel good: I’m not that ashamed of the way poor people in France are treated. And I don’t fear getting sick: I know I’ll be taken care of
12 – Is it just you or the whole US that chooses to ignore Human rights? Well, if this were true, I guess any cop in the US could just have some heavy presumption that you are a terrorist and kill you. Oops, we did a mistake, well collateral damage, it’s bound to happen, particularly we deny fair trials… An eye for an eye, that’s so tempting. No need to use our brains, we just answer from our guts. Our guts say: you kill a friend of mine, I kill you. What says a human brain? You kill a friend of mine, I’ll do everything to make sure it was you and I’ll let you live in jail with your sin.
July 6, 2007 - 10:29 AM on July 6th, 2007
here he goes again, comparing these muslim animals to christians…
is it so hard for you wimpy bastards to just call things what they are???
why don’t you take a shower, eat some stinky cheese, and practice marching backwards.
french idiot.
July 6, 2007 - 10:43 AM on July 6th, 2007
Mike, the EU doesn’t use the word Muslim to discuss “the situation”
Terror-spooked EU: ‘Don’t say Muslims’.
July 6, 2007 - 10:58 AM on July 6th, 2007
18. Your views are well, foolish, naive, and certainly uninformed.
For your info, the good guys kill so others have freedoms to pursue happiness for all, the BAD guys kill to rule others and take over the world. Good guys don’t target women, children and other civilians, the BAD guys happily use these people for human shields.
America’s poor has it better than any other country’s poor in the world and with 100% employment anyone who doesn’t work should be ashamed of themselves.
July 6, 2007 - 11:23 AM on July 6th, 2007
Why is it that nearly every discussion in the MSM or elsewhere, unless it involves Conservatives, fails to distinguish the fact that the terrorists target innocent people? Why is that so hard to grasp, so hard to acknowledge, so hard to process for so many?
It is a fundamental difference, a huge one, a defining one. The terrorists are lower than animals, and as such, do not even deserve basic human rights.
July 6, 2007 - 11:37 AM on July 6th, 2007
18, nickele, we are talking about stateless terrorists. Except for intel, these are worthless shreads. They aren’t human. They kill indiscriminately. Maybe if you lived through one of their blasts you might wake up.
July 6, 2007 - 11:44 AM on July 6th, 2007
“Why is it that nearly every discussion in the MSM or elsewhere, unless it involves Conservatives, fails to distinguish the fact that the terrorists target innocent people?”
Perhaps because it is within the very definition of “terrorists” so it is a given. A terrorist, by definition, target innocent people.
Those who target the military are insurgents.
There’s been a big blurry line drawn that confuses the many factions there.
July 6, 2007 - 11:46 AM on July 6th, 2007
And anyone who targets innocents is a terrorist? Are you sure?
July 6, 2007 - 11:50 AM on July 6th, 2007
25.
By definition, yes. Anyone who purposefully targets innocents for political gain are terrorists.
July 6, 2007 - 11:53 AM on July 6th, 2007
nickele and the rest of the euro-trash whiners will wake up soon, as their cities burn at the hands of the muslim animals they allow to run roughshod all over them.
and can you guess who they will ask to save them…again????
this time we shouldn’t answer.
July 6, 2007 - 11:58 AM on July 6th, 2007
Last time I heard that some humans were not humans was in a movie about WWII or about the Christian church about Africans a few centuries ago to justify that we could use them as slaves.
Human rights either apply to everyone or they are worthless. I don’t see how giving the right to a fair trial is any problem. I’m not asking to give them the right to caviar. A trial has 2 purposes: allowing the guy to defend himself (which does not keep him out of jail) and making the truth known. And refusing to allow torture had two purposes: defend whatever humanity is left in terrorists and prevent the good guys to join the dark side of the force.
10 – I’m comparing Muslim bastards with Christian bastards. Your clichés are so cuuute
ops: Let me have some good wine too, and snails.
20 – we don’t use the word Muslim and we should not. Instead, we use islamists. Real muslims are the first targets of islamists.
21 – I met an American student in the US. He told me that he thought he had diabetes but did not consult because he knew his future health insurance would then not cover any of the costs. And how do people in minimum wage who cannot afford a real health insurance in the US if they get diabetes, cancer? Seriously, how do they do?
July 6, 2007 - 11:58 AM on July 6th, 2007
26. don’t fall for it, Ted, frenchie is going to next imply that US soldiers target civilians and are therefore terrorists.
They only civilians we should be targeting are:
The EU leadership
French Parliament
the UN secretary general
The New York Times Building
CNN center in Atlanta
I defy anyone to define that as terrorism.
July 6, 2007 - 12:03 PM on July 6th, 2007
I remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Mostly innocent civilians died there, and not just a few. Who should be the terrorists for that story then? Definitions are not always that easy. The islamist terrorist are bad guys, killing or trying to kill innocent people. They have the human rights or none of us has it. And they should be locked up after fair trial. This is how we do in Old Europe.
July 6, 2007 - 12:06 PM on July 6th, 2007
So much hate Mike! That is quite sad to read. I understand that you cannot bear any of these institutions you listed. They are all way to fair and full of stupid human rights for your taste.
July 6, 2007 - 12:06 PM on July 6th, 2007
28. Oh god, where to begin…..
Human rights either apply to everyone or they are worthless. I don’t see how giving the right to a fair trial is any problem.
Oh really? and muslim animals give people a “fair trial” before raping, marauding, murdering and beheading????? I didn’t think so.
And refusing to allow torture had two purposes:
Oh, I suppose you are one of those geniuses who considers pointing at someones ball bag an act of cruel torture…give me a break.. Let me compare how the US “tortures” these animals…. gives them a warm bed, 3 hot meals a day, reading material and excercise…… how do muslim animals treat prisoners, beheading.
nuff said.
we don’t use the word Muslim and we should not.
of course you don’t, you are afraid… we, on the other hand, are not.
And how do people in minimum wage who cannot afford a real health insurance in the US if they get diabetes,
99% of the people in the US who get diabetes EAT their way into it, and why should I be forced to pay for their self-detruction???
In case you don’t know anything about the US, and you clearly don’t. Let me clue you in on a little secret….THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN AMERICA. That’s right, allow me to repeat that….THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
Alas, poor people do not have cars, cable TV, subsidized housing, subsidized health card, free utilities, food money with which to buy the diabetes inducing ho-hos, ring dings and strawberry sodas.
July 6, 2007 - 12:07 PM on July 6th, 2007
Last time I heard that some humans were not humans was in a movie about WWII or about the Christian church about Africans a few centuries ago to justify that we could use them as slaves.
Blah, blah, blah. Look, anyone who deliberately targets innocent people for murder is less than an animal. Sorry to burst your bubble with a dose of reality.
I met an American student in the US. He told me that he thought he had diabetes but did not consult because he knew his future health insurance would then not cover any of the costs.
But if he went across the Southern border, then came into the U.S. illegally, Bienvenidos Amigo!!! EVERYTHING would be free! Free health care, free bennies, you name it!!!
See, we do have free health care in the U.S.!!! Just not for taxpaying, law-abiding American citizens, that’s all!!!
July 6, 2007 - 12:08 PM on July 6th, 2007
“I remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Mostly innocent civilians died there, and not just a few.”
The problem with your analogy is that Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved lives over a full scale invasion of mainland Japan. Those two cities were chosen implicitly because they were laden with military targets. Besides, we were in a declared state of war with Japan which means that the entire country was fair game- it was all considered a legal valid military target.
Yes, definitions are THAT easy. This is why the Genevea Accords exist- they make these definitions.
July 6, 2007 - 12:08 PM on July 6th, 2007
And I don’t imply that the US currently targets civilians in Iraq. I have faith in the US army to resist the temptation to retaliate on civilians. Well, a few could not resist but I won’t accuse the whole army because of some idiots.
July 6, 2007 - 12:10 PM on July 6th, 2007
yes, the UN is full of human rights, as they trade oil for blood..oh, I mean oil for food..sorry.
and I’m particularly fond of how the (mostly French) UN workers in africa run sex rings with 12 year old girls…
there’s some “stupid human rights” for ya Nickele.
keep up the good work.
July 6, 2007 - 12:11 PM on July 6th, 2007
Mike, Mike…have you forgotten??? It was only a year or so ago that a report was trumpeted in the MSM that a guard at Gitmo “…might have kicked a Koran” !!!
!!!
It turned out later the “report” was a lie, but it still demonstrated the use of torture!!!
111
July 6, 2007 - 12:11 PM on July 6th, 2007
“The islamist terrorist are bad guys, killing or trying to kill innocent people. They have the human rights or none of us has it. And they should be locked up after fair trial.”
Yes, they have rights, just like all humans to. They have right to due process and a proportionate punishment. Terrorist however, should be executed if found guilty, just like any other murderer.
This is how we do it in America.
July 6, 2007 - 12:12 PM on July 6th, 2007
They are all way to fair and full of stupid human rights for your taste.
Actually, they are full of frauders, hypocrites, liars, and propagandists.
July 6, 2007 - 12:13 PM on July 6th, 2007
“And I don’t imply that the US currently targets civilians in Iraq. I have faith in the US army to resist the temptation to retaliate on civilians. Well, a few could not resist but I won’t accuse the whole army because of some idiots.”
Very good, I applaud your balanced view.
July 6, 2007 - 12:18 PM on July 6th, 2007
Correction to #39: At least the following are liars, frauders, hypocrites, and propagandists:
the UN secretary general
The New York Times Building
CNN center in Atlanta
I’ll add a few more:
ChapaTraitor Ted Kennedy
Turban Durbin
“In Cold Blood” Murtha
Rep. Jim “I so Hate America” McDermott
July 6, 2007 - 12:23 PM on July 6th, 2007
I have a weekly pee party on a Koran…because I can, it’s a vile piece of trash that should be ignored by anyone with a brain.
July 6, 2007 - 01:03 PM on July 6th, 2007
42, Mike, do you serve French Beer to “prime the pumps” for your party?
July 6, 2007 - 01:28 PM on July 6th, 2007
no way, Franziskaner Hefe-Weizen
French make beer? since when?
July 6, 2007 - 01:29 PM on July 6th, 2007
44, Mike, French Beer is good for nothing else than to make pee for pissing on things. Damn, it makes Budweiser taste like California Champagne.
July 6, 2007 - 01:31 PM on July 6th, 2007
44, Even the French prefer German or English beers over their domestic product. I hear that even Chinese beer is looked upon favorably over French beer.
Even a Stroh’s is better than the best French beer.
July 6, 2007 - 01:33 PM on July 6th, 2007
You mean PBR is like a fine microbrew next to that Frog swill???
July 6, 2007 - 01:46 PM on July 6th, 2007
About CNN, it’s something quite interesting I noticed before: most of you guys trust Fox News, but not CNN, and I trust CNN but not Fox News. It seems those channels clearly fit to the needs of different types of people, in a very clear way.
42&43 – don’t forget to pour expensive French wine in the streets. Once you bought it, do what you like with it!
34 – yes, I can accept that these 2 bombs saved some death overall, but it does not change the fact that many who died were civilians. And killing innocent civilians it not better because you’re at war. It’s the same argument some stupid Palestinians give : we’re at war with Israel, so we take all opportunity to defend ourselves. Well, you’re at war, fight soldiers!
July 6, 2007 - 01:50 PM on July 6th, 2007
Well, we have some quite popular beer in France, though not the best overall. The Belgian beers are my favorite. Budweiser is about as bad as Corona: you better not serve it in a glass, otherwise you’d have to smell it
July 6, 2007 - 01:50 PM on July 6th, 2007
What do the soldier’s uniforms look like in Iraq?
July 6, 2007 - 01:52 PM on July 6th, 2007
hey nickele, you idiot. employees of Fox News dodate 81% to the the democratic party.
you boob.
July 6, 2007 - 01:54 PM on July 6th, 2007
and for the record, I don’t buy your crappy french wine, and it’s NOT expensive….
you can get what passes for a good bottle of that liquid crap at a PA state store for $8.99, though I’ll take california, Australian or Chilean wines ANY DAY over that piss flavoured garbage.
July 6, 2007 - 02:08 PM on July 6th, 2007
woao, what a huge connoisseur! … of cheap wine. You’re right, it’s good enough when you’re just trying to get wasted.
So, you must now dislike Fox News? They must be stupid to like the Dems, no? Has Bill O’Reilly also become a liberal?
I did not mean that all French wine are expensive. I was just hoping you’d pour an expensive one in the street. Some wine is not too expensive but quite good!
July 6, 2007 - 02:09 PM on July 6th, 2007
Nickele, Thai wine tastes better and is a better value than French wine. It also doesn’t come wrapped in emergency surrender flags like French wines do.
The last time I saw something useful for Cognac was when some dopey mayor poured it in the fuel tank of a 1060s Chrysler turbine powered sedan to prove that the car would run on anything flamable.
July 6, 2007 - 02:15 PM on July 6th, 2007
it may make good fertilizer for the hallowed ground containing the dead American Soldiers who freed that ungrateful lot.
Nickele, you been to Normandy lately and got down on your knees to kiss the hairy bean bags of those who saved your sorry country?
if not, get there today and beg their forgiveness.
July 6, 2007 - 02:16 PM on July 6th, 2007
I just love how people believe that piss flavoured wine, moldy reeking cheese and 10 pounds of butter on everything cooked passes for “cuisine”
my god.
July 6, 2007 - 02:29 PM on July 6th, 2007
“34 – yes, I can accept that these 2 bombs saved some death overall, but it does not change the fact that many who died were civilians. And killing innocent civilians it not better because you’re at war. It’s the same argument some stupid Palestinians give : we’re at war with Israel, so we take all opportunity to defend ourselves. Well, you’re at war, fight soldiers!”
Then your argument collapses with this statement. You would rather more people die than less people die? How does it matter how they die? The point being is that countless civilian lives were lost, civilians who were viable legal targets (due to an internationally recognized declaration of war by Japan) but even more was saved by dropping those two bombs.
Even with this said, the US didn’t purposefully target civilians with those two bombs. Yes, many died with those bombs, but it is not the same.
The definition of war is simply legalized murder. In WWII you had two countries (US and Japan) who declared war against each other. At that point, civilians of each country are legal targets.
Even with this said, the US didn’t purposefully target civilians with those two bombs. Yes, many died with those bombs, but it is not the same. There are collateral damage in war, which is NOT at all the same.
July 6, 2007 - 02:36 PM on July 6th, 2007
Re 48:
“About CNN, it’s something quite interesting I noticed before: most of you guys trust Fox News, but not CNN, and I trust CNN but not Fox News. It seems those channels clearly fit to the needs of different types of people, in a very clear way.”
I don’t trust either one. I filter the BS and go from there. I find Fox to be moe accurate though.
July 6, 2007 - 02:43 PM on July 6th, 2007
Cognac is not a wine, it’s made from wine (by distillation).
Mike, I don’t need to kiss a grave, nor your dirty ass to be thankful for the soldiers who freed my country.
54 – I don’t know, maybe the prices and tastes are different in France and the US…
56 – Nothing like that should surprise you. Others call “restaurant” a place that serves a layer of canola oil (called ‘cheese’) on an oily piece of meat, in between two slices of sweet bread.
Btw, Roquefort, probably the moldiest cheese in France is my favorite cheese. Not an easy one for papillae that are not used to it!
July 6, 2007 - 02:47 PM on July 6th, 2007
Fox news is middle of the road, for the hundredth time.
you are never going to convince dunderheads like Nickele, don’t you know that? They actually think CNN, ABC, NBC, Time, NYT, CBS, MSNBC, Time, PBS, NPR are reliable news sources…. my god.
don’t forget, in the liberal mind (what a frightening place)
killing and dismembering fetuses (and marching to celebrate the killing and dismemberment of said fetus) = completely reasonable position.
protecting human life = extremist
Illegally confiscating the incomes of the productive to redistribute to the lazy, shiftless and ignorant = good economic policy
Supporting business and capitalism = extremist
condemning america and it’s military for the horrific practice of pointing at detainees ball sacks = coming out against torture
liberalism is indeed a mental illness.
July 6, 2007 - 02:49 PM on July 6th, 2007
I don’t need to argue with you any more, your punishment is having to live in that cursed country and be completely IRRELEVANT on the world stage.
enjoy your stinky cheese.
July 6, 2007 - 02:51 PM on July 6th, 2007
But hey, you have a pretty good national soccer team (granted, it’s comprised entirely of AFRICANS)..
oh, and by the way, soccer is NOT a sport, it’s a little girly game, played by eurotrash, 3rd world countries, and little babies whose mommies don’t want them to get hurt by playing a man’s sport.
July 6, 2007 - 02:59 PM on July 6th, 2007
19- “is it so hard for you wimpy bastards to just call things what they are???”
It is, Mike, because we are simply too well educated to tell you what you are…
July 6, 2007 - 03:03 PM on July 6th, 2007
PCD, aren’t you afraid that MK dethrones you from this years rudeness-contest peak?
July 6, 2007 - 03:13 PM on July 6th, 2007
62 – well, soccer is not my favorite sport, rugby is. Well, I’m French, so you’ll probably change your mind and say it’s a babies’ sport
I watched American football (which you guys call football), which seems similar to rugby: problem, it’s way too slow for me, there’s not enough rhythm in that sport for my taste.
Mike, you are the new Messiah. You know everything that is good for human kind. If 90% of the planet plays one sport and you don’t like it, you’ll tell them all how they are ignorant.
Btw, the French soccer team is not composed of Africans. They are all French (or maybe a few Europeans as well?). Of course, we did a good job at giving French citizenship to some good players to be sure they could be part of the French team. At least we don’t say we are world champion without playing against other countries.
July 6, 2007 - 08:27 PM on July 6th, 2007
Nickele, the reason why so many well informed Americans almost completely discount CNN is because of actions that they have taken in the past. They freely admitted to concealing information about the torturous activities of Saddam Hussein’s regime in order to keep their Baghdad bureau open, despite knowing that they were being used as nothing but a propaganda tool. They felt it was more important to keep a bureau open reporting propaganda than to report real news and be forced to close it. They have repeatedly concealed important facts or completely buried stories about Democratic politicians while headlining and repeatedly airing mere allogations about Republican ones. They spend virtually no time telling about the Democratic Congressman who was caught with $90,000 in marked FBI bribe money hidden in his refrigerator ( William Jefferson, D-LA, a FACT), but continue to scream from the roof tops that Scooter Libby illegally outed a CIA agent. (which is a LIE for a number of reasons.)They continually refer to the NSA intercept program as domestic spying or wiretapping, neither of which is true. The list goes on and on. CNN simply does not report the facts without editing them for content and spinning them for maximum benefit for the liberal left.
That is the reason why people on the right don’t listen to CNN. They don’t even report the weather without putting a slant on it.
July 7, 2007 - 10:03 AM on July 7th, 2007
Well, Offcr, I’m sure what you’re describing must be true, and I did not hear about these events because I was not watching CNN at that point (and now, I watch CNN international once in a while, it may be a little different from CNN). The fact is that I find the tone better (not perfect) in CNN compared to what I remember in Fox News from the time I was in the US.
The one I remember the most of is Bill O’Reilly. I was shocked to hear that guy, supposedly a journalist. He could not invite a guy that had a different opinion than himself without shouting, shutting up the guy. This is not what I expect from a journalist. And basically on the whole channel, no debate. I don’t conclude this from reading books (I read one of the books about Fox News, but it only confirmed my thoughts). I’ve never had such a bad feeling about CNN.
But seeing the difference of appreciation about news channels between you guys and me, I concluded that these channels are appreciated mostly by people with opposite views.
62 – If France were so IRRELEVANT ON THE WORLD STAGE, I don’t understand how France’s decision not to follow on the war in Iraq could have saddened you so much… No, I think France is relevant on the world stage, not as much as the US, but that’s why we have to build a stronger political Europe, and Europe’s world relevance is nothing small.
July 8, 2007 - 05:19 AM on July 8th, 2007
68, Nickele, my aren’t you selective in what you watch. You ignore Liberal scandals, but know all about the Conservative ones. My how special!
You know what, just shove your head back into the liberal sewer you live in and leave the rest of the world to the adults who take action, not cower behind surrender flags, under their beds, and decry George Bush at every opportunity.
July 8, 2007 - 11:11 AM on July 8th, 2007
decry George Bush at every opportunity / support Bush whatever he’d do
ignore liberal scandals / ignore conservative scandals
know all about conservative ones / know all about liberal ones
Of course we have clearly different opinion which make us like or dislike the guy currently in charge in the US.
Now, I thought that Bush was about spreading democracy in the world (which is something I applaude). Do you agree with him? So, what is democracy? Is it wishing that the whole world agreed with Bush? Or is it wishing that different opinions can coexist, as long as they respect democracy themselves? All I’m writing here is my opinions about Bush. You have different opinions. Great, the world is not just with one mind, thank god. I’d be scared if the whole world shared exactly all my opinions. And can you imagine a world with no liberals to insult?
And it’s also great that many in this world don’t have super strong opinions for liberals or conservatives. Otherwise everything would be set forever and boring.
I’m very happy to see people here having strong ideas, but I’m sad to see that some take politics too seriously. I think it’s good to see other people’ ideas.
The big problem between France and the US is the fact that most people in both of these countries think their country is the best in the world.
There are many things that I love in the US. Like most French people, I really like many TV shows and movies from the US. I like the way you fund research (way better than France does). I like many of your inventions (that I use everyday: computers, internet…). And there are some other stuff I don’t like in the US. I think most people in the US feel the same about France: they like some things (Paris, joie de vivre, and je ne sais quoi…) and dislike others.
July 9, 2007 - 06:20 AM on July 9th, 2007
pcd, don’t waste any more bandwidth on that piece of trash.
July 9, 2007 - 04:16 PM on July 9th, 2007
oops, a touching nerve…
July 9, 2007 - 05:20 PM on July 9th, 2007
CNN =
1. Communist News Network
2. Criminal News Network
3. Clinton News Network
Any more questions?
July 9, 2007 - 05:26 PM on July 9th, 2007
No, your point of view is quite clear.
July 9, 2007 - 07:38 PM on July 9th, 2007
Nickele, O’Reilly is a commentator not a journalist. There is a huge difference. The problem is that while people watching FOX know that O’Reilly is expressing his opinion, those watching CNN believe they are getting a factual news broadcast. While I personally liked listening to Christianne (sp) Amanpour reporting from Operation Desert Storm in the early nineties, I couldn’t stand to listen to the current crop of “reporters” in the middle east. She reported the facts, the current group cherry pick what they are going to report including fictional accounts to shed as bad a light as possible on what’s going on in Iraq. How else do you account for the disparity between what the soldiers are seeing on the ground and what is being reported? How many outlets are reporting the huge drop in terrorist attacks versus publicizing the few that do occur?