Comments on: ACLU Loses: U.S. Appeals Court in Ohio Dismisses Challenge of Bush Administration’s Domestic Surveillance Program http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:20:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-637979 FrmrArtyOffcr Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:55:42 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-637979 Well folks, the courts got this one right on a lot of levels. The first is that the ACLU doesn't have standing because they weren't being monitored. Secondly, without the ability to prove harm was done to the individuals involved, there isn't any standing for a suit. Thirdly, who wants to be the judge who opines that monotoring an international call that resulted in a terrorist attack being stopped was unconstitutional and therefore the terrorists must be set free and any future communications that they make to other terrorists may not be monitored? The ONLY way in which this case could realistically be argued as to causing anyone any real harm would be to defend a terrorist who's plot was disrupted by it. Can you imagine that argument in court? ACLU: Your Honor the defense requests that all charges be dismissed against my client on the grounds that the information leading to his arrest was obtained through the use of warrantless wiring tapping. Based on that illegally obtained information, he was placed under surveillance. Because the surveillance was initiated based on information received from a warrantless wiretap, barring dismissal of all charges, we move to have the Ryder truck full of explosives, the crate of AK-47s, the cases of ammunition, and the 2 dozen RPGs be ruled as inadmissable evidence as fruit of the forbidden tree. At this point in time, the only real question is: Is the court in the 9th circuit? If not, motions would be denied and the terrorist remanded to custody. If so, the terrorist is released, the weapons returned, and the US government sued for multiple milions for violating his right to commit mass murder. Well folks, the courts got this one right on a lot of levels. The first is that the ACLU doesn’t have standing because they weren’t being monitored. Secondly, without the ability to prove harm was done to the individuals involved, there isn’t any standing for a suit. Thirdly, who wants to be the judge who opines that monotoring an international call that resulted in a terrorist attack being stopped was unconstitutional and therefore the terrorists must be set free and any future communications that they make to other terrorists may not be monitored? The ONLY way in which this case could realistically be argued as to causing anyone any real harm would be to defend a terrorist who’s plot was disrupted by it. Can you imagine that argument in court?

ACLU: Your Honor the defense requests that all charges be dismissed against my client on the grounds that the information leading to his arrest was obtained through the use of warrantless wiring tapping. Based on that illegally obtained information, he was placed under surveillance. Because the surveillance was initiated based on information received from a warrantless wiretap, barring dismissal of all charges, we move to have the Ryder truck full of explosives, the crate of AK-47s, the cases of ammunition, and the 2 dozen RPGs be ruled as inadmissable evidence as fruit of the forbidden tree.

At this point in time, the only real question is: Is the court in the 9th circuit? If not, motions would be denied and the terrorist remanded to custody. If so, the terrorist is released, the weapons returned, and the US government sued for multiple milions for violating his right to commit mass murder.

]]> By: nickele http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-637972 nickele Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:36:52 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-637972 Republican = anything we don't like can only be communist and since we hate communism more than anything else, what we don't like is bad. Ok, I'm not as poetic as you guys, but I'm trying! :d Republican = anything we don’t like can only be communist and since we hate communism more than anything else, what we don’t like is bad. Ok, I’m not as poetic as you guys, but I’m trying! :d

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-637882 TedintheShed Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:19:14 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-637882 Bush's Court appointees, especially those on the SCOTUS, will be his most positive enduring legacy. It is an area where you have to give the man credit that he did a great job on. Bush’s Court appointees, especially those on the SCOTUS, will be his most positive enduring legacy. It is an area where you have to give the man credit that he did a great job on.

]]> By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-637850 Robert Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:23:09 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-637850 #3: ACLU = Anti-American Communist Liberals United. #3: ACLU = Anti-American Communist Liberals United.

]]> By: PCD http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-637809 PCD Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:13:40 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-637809 Tofu, Face facts, you nuts lost elections. The adults are in charge. Tofu,

Face facts, you nuts lost elections. The adults are in charge.

]]> By: Toasted Tofu http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-635340 Toasted Tofu Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:44:25 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-635340 The 2 who are W. Bush appointees out of the 3 on the court rules against the lower court decision. Monarchy rules the USA now. Why did we even bother fighting the against King George the III? The 2 who are W. Bush appointees out of the 3 on the court rules against the lower court decision. Monarchy rules the USA now. Why did we even bother fighting the against King George the III?

]]> By: PCD http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-634698 PCD Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:28:05 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-634698 Damn, my post is missing again. The ACLU ought to move to their paradise of Zimbabwe. Damn, my post is missing again.

The ACLU ought to move to their paradise of Zimbabwe.

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/comment-page-1/#comment-634569 TedintheShed Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:49:39 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/07/06/aclu-loses-us-appeals-court-in-ohio-dismisses-challenge-of-bush-administrations-domestic-surveillance-program/#comment-634569 Yay! Good nwes from the heartland! Yay!

Good nwes from the heartland!

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