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Say Anything has: Ed Schultz Blames Bush For Minnesota Bridge Collapse
…the only reason Bush is talking about fatalities is because he didn’t give MN enough money to maintain the bridge.
Rob points out:
Of course, Schultz isn’t the only liberal driven to stupidity by the bridge collapse in Minnesota. Others are saying that the bridge collapsed because, get this, we aren’t paying enough in taxes. Again, I’m not sure why the bridge in Minnesota collapsed (hasn’t anyone been inspecting it?), but if more funding was needed to maintain it Congress could have cut back on the number of million dollar bus stops and bridges to nowhere they’ve been building with our highway money.
Dean Barnett checks the stupid-o-meter.
Webloggin has: Moonbat Alert - Bridge Collapse is Republicans Fault
Here’s a small sample of the Democrat Party base as they responded to yesterday’s bridge collapse in Minneapolis.
We spend billions in Iraq (161+ / 0-) While we fall apart at home.
We have been warned (144+ / 0-) by engineers that our nation’s infrastructure is in dire need of repair and upgrade.
Who needs terrorism when the inept GOP runs our nation into the ground. The “terrorists” can just sit back and watch as our nation falls apart.
Mission Accomplished.
the ironic thing is Martin Sabo (D, MN-08) (80+ / 0-) is transportation chair in the house, and tried to get the state to put up 20 cents for each additional dollar the feds would have given us to improve/fix transportation. didn’t get done in part because w.a.t.b gov one-term-woulda-been Pawlenty didn’t want to raise taxes.
Every week there’s a new national tragedy…tainted food, nutcases with automatic weapons, structural damage to cities, hospital patients dropped on the streets, dysfuctional transportation system, poorly cared for vets, trashed education system, national disasters from global warming. I am waiting for a national figure with the balls to call these warning signs what they are: Republican disdain for and neglect of government oversight,venality, insensitivity to human suffering, tax breaks for rich folks, blatant government incompetence, dirty politics, and bleeding our resources in an immoral fucking war.
It is a terrorist attack by Republican budget (15+ / 0-) cutters
Fox had the story and great pictures before the others had anything on it. If this was not a horrible incident, I would have been suspicious just because it was Fox.
Natalee Holloway must have been on the bridge
FOX is reporting it because it bleeds, baby n/t
I hate this (9+ / 0-) that the thought that crosses my mind is “will they blame this on terrorists and use it to attack Iran?” “Is it a setup?”
Infrastructure is failing (7+ / 0-) and republicans control the purse strings, even in Minnesota. If this turns out to be related to faulty maintenance, impeachment of the responsible parties is indeed relevant.
Other things going on: (4+ / 0-)
Bush invokes executive privilege on Rove testimony.
Fisher-Price recalls 1 million lead-tainted toys
US Marine found guilty of murdering Iraqi
Do you think… (4+ / 0-) …people will finally start putting 2+2 together?
We’ve been on a tax cut binge since Reagan. We stopped investing in the United States since the 1950’s. There is a Trillion $$$ war being waged. to top it off, bu$h wants to send someone to freakin’ MARS.
more at memeorandum
August 2, 2007 - 04:48 PM on August 2nd, 2007
So, Peejz, are you finally convinced it was not a “terrorist” attack?
“Again, I’m not sure why the bridge in Minnesota collapsed (hasn’t anyone been inspecting it?)”
Yes, it had been inspected. It was listed as “structurally deficient and rated at 50%. Would you live in a house, send your kids to a school, or drive a car rated “structurally deficient”?
The MN Governor has run on a ‘no new taxes’ platform for the last 6 or so years. Well, there ya go…
You shouldn’t get all freaked out and your panties in a bunch over “terrorism” but rather, our incompetent leaders.
August 2, 2007 - 05:28 PM on August 2nd, 2007
hahahahaha…Toasted you are a trip. I figured SOME idiot would be blaming Bush. Dam. Alright, go ahead and blame him but while you’re at it blame him for a great economy, blame him for 100% employment, blame him for no terrorists attacks on our soil since 9/11 and blame him for being a Christian man with faith and a good heart.
August 2, 2007 - 05:41 PM on August 2nd, 2007
Of COURSE it is Bush’s fault! EVERYTHING from the Europeans critcizing the U.S. to hurricanes to anything cionceivabe, whether it is natural or human-realted ans is bad, is BUSH’s FAULT!!!
The other day on the way home fom work there was an accidet blocking traffic. That too, was BUSH’s FAULT!!!
Such thinking is not only typical, but quite understandable within the realm of mental illness known as Liberalism…
August 2, 2007 - 06:11 PM on August 2nd, 2007
2- Where I I blame Bush?
I’ll just blame Republicans in general, who after 14 years of rule, have let our infrastructure crumble. We spends huge amounts of money to rebuild Iraq but we can’t even maintain our own “structurally deficient” bridges???
Sure, you got your tax cuts, huh? Won’t do you a damn bit of good when you’re pancaked by a a deteriorated bridge. Worried about terrorists? Worry about driving on your roads.
August 2, 2007 - 06:11 PM on August 2nd, 2007
I’m still trying to figure out why new taxes were needed to fix the bridge?!!??
August 2, 2007 - 06:38 PM on August 2nd, 2007
I know it was republicans fault as there were only Dhimmicraps and independents on the bridge.
August 2, 2007 - 06:47 PM on August 2nd, 2007
4- We already paid taxes to keep the road maintained…how about Murtha steers a few billion less here and there for pork, and actually takes care of the nations business!
August 2, 2007 - 06:48 PM on August 2nd, 2007
4- It was 1990 when the bridge got it’s first failure report..who was in charge?
August 2, 2007 - 07:08 PM on August 2nd, 2007
AP sums this one up:
August 2, 2007 - 07:27 PM on August 2nd, 2007
5- I’m still trying to figure out how you missed my end point of “incompetent leaders” ?
August 2, 2007 - 07:28 PM on August 2nd, 2007
8- I dunno. Who was president then in 1990? What party took control of the purse-strings the year after Clinton was sworn into office?
August 2, 2007 - 07:30 PM on August 2nd, 2007
7- How about Bush and fellow crooks swinging $500+ billion of debt to invade and occupy Iraq?
August 2, 2007 - 07:34 PM on August 2nd, 2007
9- The extremist far-right “hotair” (approrpriate name, btw) blog is now the “AP”?
August 2, 2007 - 07:40 PM on August 2nd, 2007
Gee Toasted I don’t even know how to rebuke your accusations they are so off the mark. I heard on the news tonight the GROUND BREAKING ceremony for the new Minnesota Twins stadium was cancelled. Now where would that money come from? Maybe it could have fixed a bridge.
As for who controlled the purse strings. Clinton took office in 1992, the Republicans did not take the majority until 1995. Check your facts.
Great point in 7 Peejz. Every senator, even Republicans should humble themselves in shame with their pork barrel, political posturing, blasphemous spending habits. The maintaining of our nations highways and bridges is a responsibility of our federal government with the help of the states. There should be no excuse and unlike the looney left I don’t blame Bush. He’s been keeping our nation safe while the idiots in the big house continue to deceive us.
August 2, 2007 - 07:47 PM on August 2nd, 2007
12- The war is a necessity, just as bridge repair is, and both can and should be done…let’s get to the pork…
AP stand for Allahpundit..if I had said the AP, I would have been referring to the Associated Press
August 2, 2007 - 07:55 PM on August 2nd, 2007
Toasted…as for your question in post 11 of who was President in 1990? Why Bush senior of course but your logic escapes me. Since when is it the job of the Commander in Chief to inspect bridges? Do tell
August 2, 2007 - 07:59 PM on August 2nd, 2007
About Governor Tim Pawlenty
August 2, 2007 - 08:02 PM on August 2nd, 2007
14- Each and everyone of them should hang their head in shame…this pork is out of control, yet they just gave themselves a free ride today!
August 2, 2007 - 11:10 PM on August 2nd, 2007
16-”Since when is it the job of the Commander in Chief to inspect bridges? Do tell”
The President himself? Obviously no, I don’t think we’ve had a president competent enough to inspect a bridge.
Of course, when we talk about the president and his actions, we are talking about the entire executive branch which is directed and controlled by him. That would also include Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation.
So Mary is out in Minnesota playing PR defense and essentially saying (much like the the Katrina aftermath) that no one could have predicted this tradgedy.
Uh huh. “structurally defiecient” sounds pretty clear to me.
August 2, 2007 - 11:19 PM on August 2nd, 2007
14- “I heard on the news tonight the GROUND BREAKING ceremony for the new Minnesota Twins stadium was cancelled. Now where would that money come from?”
Dunno. In Cleveland it would have come from taxes as a freebie giveaway to the franchise because the community is brainwashed into thinking sports teams are more important than bridges.
August 3, 2007 - 04:13 AM on August 3rd, 2007
Tofu,
the question that you won’t find anybody asking here is: how many tanks or planes in Iraq have collapsed due to a lack of maintenance or insufficient budget. But I guess, the mighty have to set priorities… and you simply can’t have two fun-things at once: safe bridges AND a war!
August 3, 2007 - 06:03 AM on August 3rd, 2007
Matthias…the real question is how many years does it take to rebuild a military after an 8 year reign of gutting it? Especially in a time of war? I’m guessing it takes a few more years than even Bush has in office. It would also be helpful to have a Congress that was dominated by a military friendly party rather than the current crop of abusers.
August 3, 2007 - 06:06 AM on August 3rd, 2007
Toasted. In answer to your question in 19. Along this line of thinking of yours we can safely assume Bill Clinton is culpable as well? If memory serves me correctly in between Bush senior and Bush junior we had a DEMOCRAT in power. One who was negligent on many fronts so we can include this one as well? Yes?
August 3, 2007 - 07:03 AM on August 3rd, 2007
21: MR, one reason you won’t find anyone asking that question is that going to war presupposes one has the resources and equipment to achieve the set objectives.
As for the 35W, the state is responsible for upkeep of its roads, and that applies to the interstates as well. The funds can come from the federal level, but each state sets its priorities in constructing and maintaining those roads.
August 3, 2007 - 07:29 AM on August 3rd, 2007
24-
Regarding your aspect, that due to the various stages the fund has to go through my feeling is, that you have an average loss as in every public administration structure, but I would guess that the same waste of money (by mismanagement) takes also place in the military and so you have that drawback at both sides.
I think, that from a government perspective both areas (traffic & defense) and its budget have the purpose to guarantee the safety of the citizens (though I don’t share that view for the war-case). Unfortunately I guess, that your government overestimated the dangerpotential related to the “war on terror” and underestimated the “war against rust”. I mean- this kind of collapse can happen anywhere else at each moment again…
August 3, 2007 - 08:24 AM on August 3rd, 2007
The federal government is now providing about $40 billion a year to improve and expand the nation’s highways and bridges…So that begs the question….
If this is a true figure:
Why are the bridges not in good shape? Where is the money going?
August 3, 2007 - 08:36 AM on August 3rd, 2007
I figure it would,nt take long before some liberal memeber of the steupid jackas party would blame bush what a blockhead
August 3, 2007 - 11:42 AM on August 3rd, 2007
It’s a state responsibilty.
Ohio has $330 million alined this year for bridge repair and replacements alone. ODOT (The Ohio Department of Transportation) carries those repairs out.
August 3, 2007 - 12:01 PM on August 3rd, 2007
Ted. It’s the states responsibility to get the job done but the federal government always has and always will kick in some money. My knowledge from Maryland (and the Bay Bridge) is that the feds give money because it falls under their jurisdiction to keep the highway infrastructure intact. Am I wrong? I honestly couldn’t find anything to support either position (with the exception of Peejz’s link above.)
August 3, 2007 - 12:33 PM on August 3rd, 2007
28&29-Actually, both of you are correct…In Ted’s case, ODOT is responsible for the maintenence of Ohio’s bridges…they maintain said bridges with funding from the state and fed’s….The state is responsible for assuring that their bridges/roads are up to code. Ohio has the resources to do the work as they budgeted correctly.
NJ looks to be a mess….
August 3, 2007 - 05:03 PM on August 3rd, 2007
30.
One thing though- ODOT is smart enough to use the private sector to do the repairs. It gets done cheaper and at a higher quality than the gubmint could ever attain.
August 4, 2007 - 03:12 PM on August 4th, 2007
31- If only MI eould do that!
August 5, 2007 - 08:55 PM on August 5th, 2007
The last time I was in the area of Minnesota, I was stationed at Ft McCoy on a TDY assignment as a range control officer. I spent a number of evenings talking with Minnesota National Guard soldiers who were spending their summer working full time in range control at Ft McCoy. They jokingly referred to Minnesota as the land of 10,000 taxes. One told about how a Pepsi bottling plant found it more economical to relocate from western Minnesota to eastern Wisconsin ( a distance of around 400 miles) and ship their product to where they had previously been located than to continue paying the ludicrous tax rates in Minnesota.
As for the tax cuts causing the bridge to collapse, I just have to ask. What part of increased tax REVENUES that have resulted from every tax rate reduction in the last 50 years do you not understand? What part of record high tax collections did you miss? Government may print money, but it doesn’t give that money any value. (see Mexican Peso or Russian Ruble) It also doesn’t produce a single bit of Gross Domestic Product. The more money left in the private sector, the more gross domestic product is produced. The more gross domestic product produced, the more taxes can be collected on it. Hence leaving more capital in the private sector (hence lower rates) increases GDP and thereby produces greater tax revenues. You don’t build diddly with tax rates, you build them with tax revenues. If I told you I was going to pay you $1000 an hour but you couldn’t work anywhere else and I was only going to have you work 1 hour a month, would you take that job over the one that pays $50 an hour but you would be working 40 hours a week. Your rate would be a lot higher at the $1,000 per hour, but you’d take home more (higher revenue) at the $50 per hour job. Which would pay your bills better? The higher rate or the higher revenue? The dirty little secret of taxes is that money is only taxed when it changes hands. The more frequently a dollar changes hands, the greater the percentage of it ends up back in the government coffers. You don’t tax wealth (see Kennedy compound in Hyannis Port), you tax when wealth changes ownership. Why do you think Teddy is so set on reinstating the estate tax? He knows that his family’s wealth is tied up in a living trust and he’ll never have to pay a dime of estate tax despite the estate being worth 10 times the minimum limit for the estate tax to apply. High tax rates stifle the economy.