Comments on: But I Thought France And Germany Hated Us?!?!?! http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:20:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: PCD http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-648628 PCD Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:33:44 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-648628 Peezj, Chirac was a close friend to Hussein. Chirac paved the way for Hussein to get the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed. Peezj,

Chirac was a close friend to Hussein. Chirac paved the way for Hussein to get the nuclear reactor that Israel bombed.

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-648450 Peejz Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:41:56 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-648450 hosten, thanks for the links to the polls, but they wern't necessary. I never thought that Sarkozy was all of a sudden for the war in Iraq, but the symbolic gesture was not lost. Chirac did the damage, not GWB..Chirac allowed himself to be led by the far left fringe and it bit France in the ass. The U.S and our European allies are allowed to disagree on issues..it is how you choose to disagree that matters. hosten, thanks for the links to the polls, but they wern’t necessary. I never thought that Sarkozy was all of a sudden for the war in Iraq, but the symbolic gesture was not lost. Chirac did the damage, not GWB..Chirac allowed himself to be led by the far left fringe and it bit France in the ass. The U.S and our European allies are allowed to disagree on issues..it is how you choose to disagree that matters.

]]> By: hosten http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647808 hosten Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:06:54 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647808 Here's the same poll but with specifically European data: http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/jan07/BBC_USRole_Jan07_bgeurope.pdf Here’s the same poll but with specifically European data:

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/jan07/BBC_USRole_Jan07_bgeurope.pdf

]]> By: hosten http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647806 hosten Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:04:06 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647806 I found a website that compiles "world opinion polls." Here's one that the BBC conducted on World views of the U.S. http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/306.php?nid=&id=&pnt=306&lb=btvoc Spin away... I found a website that compiles “world opinion polls.”

Here’s one that the BBC conducted on World views of the U.S.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/306.php?nid=&id=&pnt=306&lb=btvoc

Spin away…

]]> By: hosten http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647802 hosten Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:53:34 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647802 In general, the French and the Germans don't hate us. They do, however, vehemently oppose much of our foreign policy. If you actually think that Sarkozy's gestures of solidarity with the U.S. means that France is now behind our occupation of Iraq, take a look at some recent back issues of Le Monde, Figaro, and Liberation (basically, center, right and left within the French scene). Not only did Sarkozy try to distance himself from Bush's foreign policies throughout his campaign, he tried to use his (extensive) media ties to prevent pictures of himself shaking hands with Bush from being printed in the weeks leading up to the election. Bush = Iraq for a lot of the world. Sarkozy did, however, state that he'd be more America-friendly than Chirac (who gave Sarko his start in politics and whose policies Sarko by and large still follows). When the U.S. invaded Iraq, we saw Europe-wide protests: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/15/sprj.irq.protests.europe/ Since Iraq has proven to be such a disaster, I suspect that collective Europe feels pretty-much redeemed in its assessment. With Blair out, "Britain's long-awaited and much-postponed pull-out from the Basra palace, its last remaining base in the Iraqi city, is imminent, sources have told the Guardian." http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2155360,00.html None of this means that Britain, or France, or Germany hates us (or has hated us for quite some time), though. Why should a criticism of a country's foreign policy mean that you hate that country? It's depressing to think that someone wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the policies of a country's leaders and the reality of a country's citizenry. In general, the French and the Germans don’t hate us. They do, however, vehemently oppose much of our foreign policy.

If you actually think that Sarkozy’s gestures of solidarity with the U.S. means that France is now behind our occupation of Iraq, take a look at some recent back issues of Le Monde, Figaro, and Liberation (basically, center, right and left within the French scene). Not only did Sarkozy try to distance himself from Bush’s foreign policies throughout his campaign, he tried to use his (extensive) media ties to prevent pictures of himself shaking hands with Bush from being printed in the weeks leading up to the election. Bush = Iraq for a lot of the world. Sarkozy did, however, state that he’d be more America-friendly than Chirac (who gave Sarko his start in politics and whose policies Sarko by and large still follows).

When the U.S. invaded Iraq, we saw Europe-wide protests: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/15/sprj.irq.protests.europe/

Since Iraq has proven to be such a disaster, I suspect that collective Europe feels pretty-much redeemed in its assessment.

With Blair out, “Britain’s long-awaited and much-postponed pull-out from the Basra palace, its last remaining base in the Iraqi city, is imminent, sources have told the Guardian.” http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2155360,00.html

None of this means that Britain, or France, or Germany hates us (or has hated us for quite some time), though. Why should a criticism of a country’s foreign policy mean that you hate that country? It’s depressing to think that someone wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the policies of a country’s leaders and the reality of a country’s citizenry.

]]> By: Matthias Roggenbuck http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647759 Matthias Roggenbuck Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:13:30 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647759 4- If I said it that way (and I can not deny this being possible), I have to correct myself. I would never dare to judge or express antipathy about faults that were done due to mental deficits... :d 4- If I said it that way (and I can not deny this being possible), I have to correct myself. I would never dare to judge or express antipathy about faults that were done due to mental deficits… :d

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647698 Peejz Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:08:28 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647698 3- and yet you have always been so quick to let us know that GWB has made us hated by our European friends.... 3- and yet you have always been so quick to let us know that GWB has made us hated by our European friends….

]]> By: Matthias Roggenbuck http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647675 Matthias Roggenbuck Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:03:36 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647675 As a German I can say that our "hate" is very picky and that it definitely does not (and never did) exits in the western direction. I personally hate this Sarkozy-asshole for making somewhat secret weapon factory deals with Libya while boastfully playing the great savior in the affair of the convicted nurses... but that's another story... 8-| As a German I can say that our “hate” is very picky and that it definitely does not (and never did) exits in the western direction.

I personally hate this Sarkozy-asshole for making somewhat secret weapon factory deals with Libya while boastfully playing the great savior in the affair of the convicted nurses… but that’s another story… 8-|

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647443 Peejz Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:44:10 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647443 I do believe that the majority of Europe did/does understand this...it is the radical fringe that got their voices to be heard, and created many problems for France/Germany I do believe that the majority of Europe did/does understand this…it is the radical fringe that got their voices to be heard, and created many problems for France/Germany

]]> By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/comment-page-1/#comment-647435 Robert Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:55:13 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/23/but-i-thought-france-and-germany-hated-us/#comment-647435 It seems interesting that the Euros are now starting to understand this. Perhaps they could enlighten the Democrite leadership? (so-called "Americans"). It seems interesting that the Euros are now starting to understand this. Perhaps they could enlighten the Democrite leadership? (so-called “Americans”).

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