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	<title>Comments on: Just how poor are America&#8217;s &#8216;poor&#8217;?</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649274</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well now SF, let&#039;s take a look at what Robert said...he is right and I think that&#039;s what you don&#039;t like.  Winning an election shouldn&#039;t come before acknowledging a mistake.

We created a welfare state 40 years ago in order to keep people dependant on the government, those are the voters that your party can always count on...I guess we get those smart asians that blow the bell curve out of the water, and always manage to stay above the poverty level due to self dependence....:-?  Didn&#039;t Howard Dean say the same thing?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200606/POL20060628a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I do believe he did&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Later in his speech Tuesday, Dean appeared to backtrack. &quot;I&#039;m not asking to go back to the &#039;60s; we made some mistakes in the &#039;60s,&quot; he said. &quot;If you look at how we did public housing, &lt;strong&gt;we essentially created ghettoes for poor people&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; instead of using today&#039;s method of mixed-income housing.

Another mistake Democrats made in the &#039;60s, Dean acknowledged, was that &lt;strong&gt;&quot;we did give things away for free, and that&#039;s a huge mistake because that does create a culture of dependence, and that&#039;s not good for anybody,&lt;/strong&gt; either,&quot; he noted, a reference to the Great Society welfare programs created by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson in the mid-1960s.

&quot;Those mistakes were not the downfall of our program,&quot; Dean added. &quot;They helped a lot more people than they hurt. But we can do better and we will do better and our time is coming.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well now SF, let&#8217;s take a look at what Robert said&#8230;he is right and I think that&#8217;s what you don&#8217;t like.  Winning an election shouldn&#8217;t come before acknowledging a mistake.</p>
<p>We created a welfare state 40 years ago in order to keep people dependant on the government, those are the voters that your party can always count on&#8230;I guess we get those smart asians that blow the bell curve out of the water, and always manage to stay above the poverty level due to self dependence&#8230;.<img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_think.gif' alt='&#58;&#45;&#63;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#45;&#63;' />  Didn&#8217;t Howard Dean say the same thing?  <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200606/POL20060628a.html" rel="nofollow">I do believe he did</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Later in his speech Tuesday, Dean appeared to backtrack. &#8220;I&#8217;m not asking to go back to the &#8217;60s; we made some mistakes in the &#8217;60s,&#8221; he said. &#8220;If you look at how we did public housing, <strong>we essentially created ghettoes for poor people</strong>&#8221; instead of using today&#8217;s method of mixed-income housing.</p>
<p>Another mistake Democrats made in the &#8217;60s, Dean acknowledged, was that <strong>&#8220;we did give things away for free, and that&#8217;s a huge mistake because that does create a culture of dependence, and that&#8217;s not good for anybody,</strong> either,&#8221; he noted, a reference to the Great Society welfare programs created by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson in the mid-1960s.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those mistakes were not the downfall of our program,&#8221; Dean added. &#8220;They helped a lot more people than they hurt. But we can do better and we will do better and our time is coming.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649258</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try running for office on that, Robert.

LOL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try running for office on that, Robert.</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649239</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average.&quot;

Gawsh, you&#039;d think that 30 years of aggressive affirmative action would have made some difference. What more does it take?

&quot;The best way to get on your feet is to get off your ass&quot;...popular bumper sticker

&quot;It&#039;s 11 o&#039;clock...time for welfare people to get up.&quot; ...Rush Limbaugh

Liberalism is a form of mental illness...Robert, c1988</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gawsh, you&#8217;d think that 30 years of aggressive affirmative action would have made some difference. What more does it take?</p>
<p>&#8220;The best way to get on your feet is to get off your ass&#8221;&#8230;popular bumper sticker</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s 11 o&#8217;clock&#8230;time for welfare people to get up.&#8221; &#8230;Rush Limbaugh</p>
<p>Liberalism is a form of mental illness&#8230;Robert, c1988</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649237</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3 you&#039;re so right the breeders themselves have NO responsibility, it&#039;s up to the rest of us to accommodate them! It&#039;s OUR fault, the fault of working, taxpaying, law-abiding people all over the U.S. for being so mean-spirited to suggest that maybe some people are responsible for their own situations. Or pointing out that maybe poor kids are that way because the selfish, careless, reckless asses who brought them into the world did so despite having no plan/desire/ability to support them.

Aw, what&#039;s the use...IT&#039;S BUSH&#039;S FAULT!


:)&gt;-:o:-w</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3 you&#8217;re so right the breeders themselves have NO responsibility, it&#8217;s up to the rest of us to accommodate them! It&#8217;s OUR fault, the fault of working, taxpaying, law-abiding people all over the U.S. for being so mean-spirited to suggest that maybe some people are responsible for their own situations. Or pointing out that maybe poor kids are that way because the selfish, careless, reckless asses who brought them into the world did so despite having no plan/desire/ability to support them.</p>
<p>Aw, what&#8217;s the use&#8230;IT&#8217;S BUSH&#8217;S FAULT!</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649215</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why:


&quot;Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average. In 2004, 24.7 percent of blacks and 21.9 percent of Hispanics were poor, compared to 8.6 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 9.8 percent of Asians.&quot;


Source:   http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/#4



(But, you&#039;re a republican, so you probably either didn&#039;t know or didn&#039;t care.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why:</p>
<p>&#8220;Poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics greatly exceed the national average. In 2004, 24.7 percent of blacks and 21.9 percent of Hispanics were poor, compared to 8.6 percent of non-Hispanic whites and 9.8 percent of Asians.&#8221;</p>
<p>Source:   <a href="http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/#4" rel="nofollow">http://www.npc.umich.edu/poverty/#4</a></p>
<p>(But, you&#8217;re a republican, so you probably either didn&#8217;t know or didn&#8217;t care.)</p>
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		<title>By: Peejz</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649206</link>
		<dc:creator>Peejz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3-Why would you automatically link black votes and poverty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3-Why would you automatically link black votes and poverty?</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/08/28/just-how-poor-are-americas-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-649199</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lame.

You guys have no idea.

With crap like this from the Heritage Fundies, it&#039;s certainly no wonder at all why so many Americans have always considered Republicans HEARTLESS and INSENSITIVE.

Also why you will never get more than 10% of the black vote, and why you are getting less and less of the minority hispanic vote.

Keep shit like this up, and you&#039;ll have very few friends to vote for your team at all.  except, cold, heartless morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lame.</p>
<p>You guys have no idea.</p>
<p>With crap like this from the Heritage Fundies, it&#8217;s certainly no wonder at all why so many Americans have always considered Republicans HEARTLESS and INSENSITIVE.</p>
<p>Also why you will never get more than 10% of the black vote, and why you are getting less and less of the minority hispanic vote.</p>
<p>Keep shit like this up, and you&#8217;ll have very few friends to vote for your team at all.  except, cold, heartless morons.</p>
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		<title>By: snowy egret</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowy egret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember how many poor and homeless persons we were suppost to be having under RONALD REAGAN and then how they suddenly disarared under clinton? YOU CANT TRUST THOSE LYING LIBERAL REPTILES:-@</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how many poor and homeless persons we were suppost to be having under RONALD REAGAN and then how they suddenly disarared under clinton? YOU CANT TRUST THOSE LYING LIBERAL REPTILES<img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_talktohand.gif' alt='&#58;&#45;&#64;' class='wp-smiley' width='31' height='16' title='&#58;&#45;&#64;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm...problems again with posts appearing...

&quot;If work in each family were raised to 2,000 hours per year&quot;the equivalent of one adult working 40 hours per week throughout the year&quot; nearly 75 percent of poor children would be lifted out of official poverty.&quot;

Kinda reminds me of the bumper sticker: The best way to get on your feet is to get off your ass&quot;.

I know these situations are often not that simple, but it seems if more sperm donors would take responsibility for their recreational activities, many kids wouldn&#039;t be so poor. It is a recurring pattern in the illegals immigrant circles, for example.

One of the most selfish, disgraceful, evil imo things a person can do is bring children into the world with no plan, intent, or interest in being responsible for/to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;problems again with posts appearing&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;If work in each family were raised to 2,000 hours per year&#8221;the equivalent of one adult working 40 hours per week throughout the year&#8221; nearly 75 percent of poor children would be lifted out of official poverty.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kinda reminds me of the bumper sticker: The best way to get on your feet is to get off your ass&#8221;.</p>
<p>I know these situations are often not that simple, but it seems if more sperm donors would take responsibility for their recreational activities, many kids wouldn&#8217;t be so poor. It is a recurring pattern in the illegals immigrant circles, for example.</p>
<p>One of the most selfish, disgraceful, evil imo things a person can do is bring children into the world with no plan, intent, or interest in being responsible for/to them.</p>
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