Linkfest:WaPa Calls Thompson A Liar For Stating That U.S. Has Shed More Blood Than Any Other Nation To Bring Liberty

Here is what Fred said:

  • “You know, you look back over our history, and it doesn’t take you long to realize that our people have shed more blood for other people’s liberty than any other combination of nations in the history of the world.”

    Fred D. Thompson, stump speech in Des Moines, Sept. 7

  • The “claim” does not give us the name of the author for the WaPo, but this is their response:

  • Thompson’s jingoistic assertion cannot be supported by facts, barring some tortuous definition of the phrase “other people’s liberty.” We asked his presidential campaign for factual support for the claim, but it did not respond. We therefore award Thompson four Pinocchios.
  • Terry says that Ed Morrisey at Captain’s Quarters blog decimates the fallacious and highly biased claims made by the Washington Post’s anonymous writer

    The Post awards Thompson “four Pinocchios” for his statement. I’d award the Post about ten dunce caps for borderline illiteracy.
    Thompson specifically mentions that we shed our blood for “other people’s liberty”, not our own. That excludes any nation that fought to defend its own territory. The Soviet Union had allied itself with Nazi Germany — right up to the moment of Hitler’s invasion of June 1941. The Soviets did not fight the Germans to liberate anyone except themselves. True, they bled massively in their defeat of the Nazis, but they didn’t do it out of love of liberty or selfless devotion to France or Britain. Their effort certainly helped the West in achieving victory on Hitler’s Western front, but that wasn’t why Joseph Stalin insisted on crushing the Nazis. Had Hitler not launched Operation Barbarossa, Stalin wouldn’t have lifted a finger for anyone’s liberty, let alone those of his own people — which he proved in the post-war Iron Curtain he imposed on Europe.

    Anyone who can’t figure this much out has no business writing for a professional newspaper. It’s a ludicrous, almost ghoulish argument in the face of what followed World War II in Europe. It’s worthy of Walter Duranty, the disgraced Soviet apologist of the 1930s New York Times.

    The rest of the piece is almost as bad. The unidentified writer uses the conquests of the Alexandrian Greeks (actually Macedonians, to be accurate) as a counter-example to Fred’s claim, as well as Napoleon. The Post seems to have some trouble distinguishing imperial acquisition from liberty, a lost distinction that explains quite a bit of what appears on the pages of its newspaper.

    memeorandum has links to Outside The Beltway , who states:

    So, yes, the facts are more complicated than Thompson’s stump speech line; they always are. Americans have fought a lot of wars, none of them for a single purpose. Over the last century, though, all of them have had at least some substantial “other people’s liberty” component. Who else can make that claim?

    My question to the WaPo is what motivated them to print this? Do any of you think that the most liberal members of the elected sector would stoop to this level of stupidity? I don’t. We may not see eye to eye politically, but Fred spoke for all of us when he said “You know, you look back over our history, and it doesn’t take you long to realize that our people have shed more blood for other people’s liberty than any other combination of nations in the history of the world.”
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