Comments on: Not A Good Day: Democrats Failed On Iraq Pullout And Failed To “Restore” Habeas Corpus http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:20:40 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654832 FrmrArtyOffcr Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:39:24 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654832 Ted, you may be right about this country as it currently stands heading into the abyss. Historically, most governmental systems fall apart after about 200 years. Jefferson said that a revolution every so often is a good thing. The question keeps coming to mind as to what faces this country down the road. A revolution against the the liberal ideologues who will destroy our freedoms to feed their notion of "fairness"? A subtle invasion from other countries of low or unskilled labor that causes such a drain on the economy as to make it collapse? A not so subtle invasion of Islamofascists that has already begun and are only waiting for the people of this great nation to become disarmed physically and emotionally before launching a series of devastating attacks? Will it simply wither on the vine as liberals lie their way into power and then squeeze the life from it like a python crushing its prey? Or perhaps it will be sold off bit by bit in back room deals to foreign countries? I'm sure the statement of someone being emotionally disarmed may require some explanation. It is the state of being so afraid of and unwilling to defend oneself as to be willing to surrender everything that you own in order to avoid confrontation. This is unfortunately the lesson being taught in the government schools at this time. Ted, you may be right about this country as it currently stands heading into the abyss. Historically, most governmental systems fall apart after about 200 years. Jefferson said that a revolution every so often is a good thing. The question keeps coming to mind as to what faces this country down the road. A revolution against the the liberal ideologues who will destroy our freedoms to feed their notion of “fairness”? A subtle invasion from other countries of low or unskilled labor that causes such a drain on the economy as to make it collapse? A not so subtle invasion of Islamofascists that has already begun and are only waiting for the people of this great nation to become disarmed physically and emotionally before launching a series of devastating attacks? Will it simply wither on the vine as liberals lie their way into power and then squeeze the life from it like a python crushing its prey? Or perhaps it will be sold off bit by bit in back room deals to foreign countries?

I’m sure the statement of someone being emotionally disarmed may require some explanation. It is the state of being so afraid of and unwilling to defend oneself as to be willing to surrender everything that you own in order to avoid confrontation. This is unfortunately the lesson being taught in the government schools at this time.

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654557 TedintheShed Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:09 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654557 "Wow, most Democrats I know, don't agree with their party on fiscal issues.." Indeed, but most liberals are not of the "moveon.org" brand that SFL is either. “Wow, most Democrats I know, don’t agree with their party on fiscal issues..”

Indeed, but most liberals are not of the “moveon.org” brand that SFL is either.

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654556 TedintheShed Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:07:42 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654556 "but to them, it's better to not vote than to vote for someone they don't believe in or someone who doesn't believe in them." I am not a Christian fundie or hard right winger. I am a typical moderate, and his is how I feel also though. I beleive that this is the way many moderate conservatives and moderate liberals feel also. In the Zogby poll, he said that folks have a distrust of governement in general and that folks now are pretty much anti-establisment. This was a major contributor to the 11% approval rating that Congress is now at. I got news for you SFL- the Dems are part of the establishment just as much as the Reps are and folks understand that. Your parties don't represent our values. I am hoping this is the beginning of an awakening of Ameicans. We have choices like Obama, Clinton, Romney and Rudy because people have been apathetic towards the polictical process and have allowed the establisments of the party to wrech power from us. Unfortunately, it is only a hope because I have no faith in what once made America great- the people. We are at the dusk of our existence. Night will fall. “but to them, it’s better to not vote than to vote for someone they don’t believe in or someone who doesn’t believe in them.”

I am not a Christian fundie or hard right winger. I am a typical moderate, and his is how I feel also though.

I beleive that this is the way many moderate conservatives and moderate liberals feel also. In the Zogby poll, he said that folks have a distrust of governement in general and that folks now are pretty much anti-establisment. This was a major contributor to the 11% approval rating that Congress is now at.

I got news for you SFL- the Dems are part of the establishment just as much as the Reps are and folks understand that. Your parties don’t represent our values.

I am hoping this is the beginning of an awakening of Ameicans. We have choices like Obama, Clinton, Romney and Rudy because people have been apathetic towards the polictical process and have allowed the establisments of the party to wrech power from us.

Unfortunately, it is only a hope because I have no faith in what once made America great- the people. We are at the dusk of our existence. Night will fall.

]]> By: Peejz http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654553 Peejz Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:30 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654553 Wow, most Democrats I know, don't agree with their party on fiscal issues.. Wow, most Democrats I know, don’t agree with their party on fiscal issues..

]]> By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654547 Robert Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:22:08 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654547 FAO #24 what you are describing about Liberal thoiught is more than just having the right intention but being wrong. It is evidence of mental illness to ignore reality, fail to consider human nature (which is constant and can be predicted in every case), throw out the lessons of thousands of years of lessons learned the hard way about human behavior that led to the establishment of traditions and mores, etc. The only conclusion I can think of that explains everything about Liberal thought is that at its most empirical level it is a form of mental illness. FAO #24 what you are describing about Liberal thoiught is more than just having the right intention but being wrong. It is evidence of mental illness to ignore reality, fail to consider human nature (which is constant and can be predicted in every case), throw out the lessons of thousands of years of lessons learned the hard way about human behavior that led to the establishment of traditions and mores, etc.

The only conclusion I can think of that explains everything about Liberal thought is that at its most empirical level it is a form of mental illness.

]]> By: PCD http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654531 PCD Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:51:04 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654531 18, My part Cherokee step-son proudly wears a t-shirt that says Vegetarian is an old Indian word meaning BAD HUNTER. 18, My part Cherokee step-son proudly wears a t-shirt that says Vegetarian is an old Indian word meaning BAD HUNTER.

]]> By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654510 Robert Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:02:46 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654510 #20: "FAO - that was over 200 years ago." And that kind of thinking is the essence of what is wrong with America today. #20: “FAO – that was over 200 years ago.”

And that kind of thinking is the essence of what is wrong with America today.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654505 FrmrArtyOffcr Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:18:23 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654505 On the topic of Obama, I have little to say about him other than I feel that he, like Jimmy Carter, may have his heart in the right place but, he'd be in WAY over his head. His comments have already shown he's incapable of understanding the complexities of being Commander in Chief during a time of war. He's probably a really nice guy, he's simply NOT up to the job. At least not at this point. Unfortunately, we simply don't have the luxury of having someone who isn't up to the task while we're at war. I have to honestly say that other than Thompson, I don't know who on either side is really up to the challenge. Rudy would be strong on security, Romney would be strong on the economy. Neither really have any international foreign relations experience. For that matter NONE of the Dems do. Let's face facts, both parties are putting up a bunch of mostly lightweights. Hillary is a closet communist, John Edwards is essentially a lying hypocrite, Obama is in over his head, Rudy has a lot of personal baggage, Morons will not vote for Romney because he's a Mormon (sad isn't it that in a country of supposed religious freedom, people won't vote for someone solely because of their religion?). At least Fred Thompson was an accomplished attorney BEFORE becoming an actor, then Senator, and left the Senate because of the death of his daughter. When it comes right down to it, the Liberals tell lies and half truths about the outcome of their plans and the Conservatives don't elucidate their plans at all. Here's how the plans break down: Higher tax rates = fewer jobs, lower revenues and more people in poverty Lower tax rates = More jobs, higher revenues, fewer people in poverty. More people with legal firearms = less crime Fewer people with legal firearms = more crime Criminals in prison until old and infirm = less crime Criminals on streets with slap on wrist = more crime Higher minimum wage = Fewer people working producing less lower minimum wage = more people working producing more Tax payer funded healthcare = lower quality and longer waits Private funded healthcare = higher quality and shorter waits From what I've heard of the Democratic plans, if they win the White House, and control of the Congress, we should be right back into another Carter economy with double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, double digit mortgage rates, criminals spending little time in prison for victimizing law abiding citizens, while law abiding citizens are rendered defenseless against the criminal element. Likewise, the waits at government run (which will be every hospital BUT the ones the dems themselves will be using) will increase from 6 to 30 hours as the illegals who currently crowd them will not have to fear deportation and the US taxpayer will be funding their treatment. Likewise, law abiding US citizens will be unable to receive the life saving procedures that their private insurance currently covers. Why? Because there won't be enough doctors available to provide them, and the federal government will simply deny the treatment worse than the current HMOs do. Liberals need to get off the "it's the thought that counts" mentality. That went out the window with the 6th twelve pack of tube socks your aunts gave you for Christmas. Good intentions are wonderful, but it's the results that matter. And good intentions with BAD results are what history shows the dems are headed for. On the topic of Obama, I have little to say about him other than I feel that he, like Jimmy Carter, may have his heart in the right place but, he’d be in WAY over his head. His comments have already shown he’s incapable of understanding the complexities of being Commander in Chief during a time of war. He’s probably a really nice guy, he’s simply NOT up to the job. At least not at this point. Unfortunately, we simply don’t have the luxury of having someone who isn’t up to the task while we’re at war. I have to honestly say that other than Thompson, I don’t know who on either side is really up to the challenge. Rudy would be strong on security, Romney would be strong on the economy. Neither really have any international foreign relations experience. For that matter NONE of the Dems do. Let’s face facts, both parties are putting up a bunch of mostly lightweights. Hillary is a closet communist, John Edwards is essentially a lying hypocrite, Obama is in over his head, Rudy has a lot of personal baggage, Morons will not vote for Romney because he’s a Mormon (sad isn’t it that in a country of supposed religious freedom, people won’t vote for someone solely because of their religion?). At least Fred Thompson was an accomplished attorney BEFORE becoming an actor, then Senator, and left the Senate because of the death of his daughter.

When it comes right down to it, the Liberals tell lies and half truths about the outcome of their plans and the Conservatives don’t elucidate their plans at all.

Here’s how the plans break down:

Higher tax rates = fewer jobs, lower revenues and more people in poverty

Lower tax rates = More jobs, higher revenues, fewer people in poverty.

More people with legal firearms = less crime
Fewer people with legal firearms = more crime

Criminals in prison until old and infirm = less crime
Criminals on streets with slap on wrist = more crime

Higher minimum wage = Fewer people working producing less
lower minimum wage = more people working producing more

Tax payer funded healthcare = lower quality and longer waits
Private funded healthcare = higher quality and shorter waits

From what I’ve heard of the Democratic plans, if they win the White House, and control of the Congress, we should be right back into another Carter economy with double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, double digit mortgage rates, criminals spending little time in prison for victimizing law abiding citizens, while law abiding citizens are rendered defenseless against the criminal element. Likewise, the waits at government run (which will be every hospital BUT the ones the dems themselves will be using) will increase from 6 to 30 hours as the illegals who currently crowd them will not have to fear deportation and the US taxpayer will be funding their treatment. Likewise, law abiding US citizens will be unable to receive the life saving procedures that their private insurance currently covers. Why? Because there won’t be enough doctors available to provide them, and the federal government will simply deny the treatment worse than the current HMOs do.

Liberals need to get off the “it’s the thought that counts” mentality. That went out the window with the 6th twelve pack of tube socks your aunts gave you for Christmas. Good intentions are wonderful, but it’s the results that matter. And good intentions with BAD results are what history shows the dems are headed for.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654502 FrmrArtyOffcr Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:47:05 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654502 Well SFL if the polls show that people agree with the Dems, that just shows how pathetic the liberal controlled education system really is. A recent poll (since you put so much stock in them) shows that most college seniors are pathetically uneducated when it comes to American History and government. Over half didn't know who Paul Revere was or what he did. Over half failed the test about important events in US history. Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it. Obviously the people who supposedly favor the Democrats on the economy are too young or stupid to remember the Carter Administration. I personally have no desire to live through another Carteresque presidency. A second grade history teacher in Georgia was caught indoctrinating the kids in her class and then giving them the questions and answers the day before so that they would pass the standardized tests. Exactly what do editorials in the Atlanta Constitution journal have to do with American history? Their homework assignment was to read the editorials, not their textbooks. While I believe a teacher of that sort should be fired and blackballed from the teaching profession, seeing as she has a PHD and probably tenure, that's just not going to happen. She's derelict in her responsibilities and needs to be treated accordingly. Well SFL if the polls show that people agree with the Dems, that just shows how pathetic the liberal controlled education system really is. A recent poll (since you put so much stock in them) shows that most college seniors are pathetically uneducated when it comes to American History and government. Over half didn’t know who Paul Revere was or what he did. Over half failed the test about important events in US history. Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it. Obviously the people who supposedly favor the Democrats on the economy are too young or stupid to remember the Carter Administration. I personally have no desire to live through another Carteresque presidency. A second grade history teacher in Georgia was caught indoctrinating the kids in her class and then giving them the questions and answers the day before so that they would pass the standardized tests. Exactly what do editorials in the Atlanta Constitution journal have to do with American history? Their homework assignment was to read the editorials, not their textbooks. While I believe a teacher of that sort should be fired and blackballed from the teaching profession, seeing as she has a PHD and probably tenure, that’s just not going to happen. She’s derelict in her responsibilities and needs to be treated accordingly.

]]> By: TedintheShed http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/comment-page-1/#comment-654444 TedintheShed Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:45:42 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/19/not-a-good-day-democrats-failed-on-iraq-pullout-and-failed-to-restore-habeas-corpus/#comment-654444 "Not sure what you mean, here." Suuuuure you don't. :^o “Not sure what you mean, here.”

Suuuuure you don’t. :^o

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