ALERT: Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week October 22-26, 2007
Beginning on October 22, student groups across the nation will hold Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week on their campuses. These protest weeks will feature a series of events designed to bring a message to these academic communities that challenges most of what students are taught about the so-called War on Terror both in the classroom and on the quad.
The Week’s events will include speeches about Islamo-Fascism by prominent figures, including former Senator Rick Santorum (Penn State, Temple and UPenn), Sean Hannity (Columbia), Ann Coulter (Tulane and USC), Dennis Prager (UC Santa Barbara), Robert Spencer (Brown, Dartmouth, University of Rhode Island, and DePaul), Daniel Pipes (Northeastern and UPenn), David Horowitz (Columbia, Emory, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin), Michael Ledeen (Maryland), Nonie Darwish (UCLA and Berkeley), Wafa Sultan (Stanford) and radio talk show hosts Melanie Morgan (San Francisco State), Michael Medved (University of Washington), Martha Zoeller (Georgia Tech), Alan Nathan (George Mason), Mark Larson (to be named) and many others.
A major theme of the Week will be the oppression of women in Islam. The photo accompanying this article, which shows a teenage girl buried before being stoned to death for alleged sexual offenses, will serve as the poster for the protest Week. The stoning took place in Iran.
more at memeorandum
September 24, 2007 - 07:42 AM on September 24th, 2007
So I guess that will be the counterpart to the “Holocaust-Denial-Parties” that the Iran-Looney held.
And that picture is horrible. I bet the sight of the dozens of criminals that were roasted alive on electric chairs or the ones of people who were intoxicated like lame dogs (so that they could not move to show their pain) were a much more humane sight!
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September 24, 2007 - 08:13 AM on September 24th, 2007
1, Your second paragraph makes even less sense than you usually do.
September 24, 2007 - 08:15 AM on September 24th, 2007
” I bet the sight of the dozens of criminals that were roasted alive on electric chairs or the ones of people who were intoxicated like lame dogs (so that they could not move to show their pain) were a much more humane sight!”
Why yes it is. Most definately.
September 24, 2007 - 08:39 AM on September 24th, 2007
2- As Ted was able to respond to my second paragraph, the problem of you “not being able to understand my second paragraph” obviously has to be on your side.
September 24, 2007 - 08:44 AM on September 24th, 2007
Matthias,
Can you continue the conversation we arew having here please?
http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/16/the-gathering-of-eagles-get-a-big-fat-0-to-the-anti-war-protestors-189/
September 24, 2007 - 09:05 AM on September 24th, 2007
2- Have a look at this one:
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/botched.html
And then please reconsider if incidents like
“sizzling sound of burning flesh”… “head and leg caught on fire”… “During that six-minute interval, Stephens took 23 breaths.”… “six-inch flames erupted from Tafero’s head”… “Finally, death was pronounced almost 90 minutes after the execution began.”…
are that much more humane than the horrible act of stoning…
5- Done!
But please don’t mind if I don not continue that thread until forever… Peejz, always provides enough other new interesting “theories”, that I may object to…
September 24, 2007 - 09:07 AM on September 24th, 2007
How nice of you, Peejz, to censor all unpleasant (insulting/non-contributing) content. I appreciate that!
September 24, 2007 - 09:34 AM on September 24th, 2007
6- I am not really sure what the point of your post is matthias. Is it to show that we have had flawed executions? Did you notice that each of the executions cited also showed corrective action?
Are you trying to say these were innocent people? They weren’t. They committed crimes against humanity in this country.
What is this woman being executed for? Why is she being stoned to death? Although, it looks like they are buring her alive!
September 24, 2007 - 09:38 AM on September 24th, 2007
“But please don’t mind if I don not continue that thread until forever: Peejz, always provides enough other new interesting “theoriesâ€, that I may object to:”
No, I would like you to continue the convesation please, other topics aside. I want us to have it, becasue it may be an important example of understanding our differences.
Unless you aren’t interested in pursuing actually understanding each other’s view point, please continue the conversation.
September 24, 2007 - 09:40 AM on September 24th, 2007
6.
A few botched executions are horrible, but it doesn’t mean the death sentence isn’t humane.
September 24, 2007 - 09:55 AM on September 24th, 2007
6, what is your solution to killers? Let them live to kill again? I guess that only makes sense if they kill idiots like you.
I think the executions OUGHT to be public and swift and kill the killer in the manner that they killed their victims, and not after decades of frivolous appeals.
(Stop the name calling, let’s have a conversation based on what is said. Dissect that, it really isn’t too difficult to show his ignorance, without needing to call him names.)
September 25, 2007 - 02:48 AM on September 25th, 2007
8- “Are you trying to say these were innocent people? They weren’t.”
I don’t say anthing on the guilt of the people on the US executions website- I don’t know. What I do know is that people have been released from their death row verdict- before the execution. What I don’t know is how many innocent were executed and there had been many who stated their innocence as their last statement at all!
“What is this woman being executed for? Why is she being stoned to death?”
I don’t know either. Probably for something that justifies a death verdict in her country.
“Although, it looks like they are buring her alive!”
I think, that is the sick method to make sure that she can’t move nor protect/cover herself with her arms.
September 25, 2007 - 02:58 AM on September 25th, 2007
10- The list on that site starts in the eighties and shows 40 incidents. I would not call that “a few”…
“it doesn’t mean the death sentence isn’t humane.”
Far worse than the execution procedure itself (which is probably horrible enough even if it “succeeds” properly) is the psychological factor that somebody knows that people will kill him at some special date in the future.
Even if you represent this “an eye for an eye”-philosophy, I dare to say that the fewest of the murder-victims had to suffer this psychological horror that death row prisoners have to live with!
If the death candidates were at least offered some way to end their lives themselves to leave them a tiny bit of dignity. Instead they are put to death mechanically and by a schedule like livestock in a slaugtherhouse…
September 25, 2007 - 03:11 AM on September 25th, 2007
11- “what is your solution to killers?”
I don’t know- I just can tell you what I don’t want to be done to them. I would probably lock them in for the rest of their lives to protect the society.
“I think the executions OUGHT to be public and swift and kill the killer in the manner that they killed their victims, and not after decades of frivolous appeals.”
This reminds me of quote from the fantastic film “12 Angry Men”, where one of the jury members says, that he is such sure that the defendant is guilty that he would like to initiate the execution himself and Henry Fonda asks him what kind of person he must be to utter such a horrible wish.
I wish for myself and everyone I love that we will never have to see somebody getting killed- especially not intentionally!
September 25, 2007 - 06:16 AM on September 25th, 2007
14, You minimize the horror and torture of murder victims to morally equivalize it to a guilty killer on death row knowing that he MAY be executed on a date. You are so stupid that only by being killed in the same manner as the killers on death row used on their victims will you understand that you are wrong and that what you think is mental torture for convicted killers is a just result of their actions.
September 25, 2007 - 06:46 AM on September 25th, 2007
So Matthias, there is no psychological torture in sitting in a cell? There is no psychological torture inflicted on the victim before they were killed? Did they offer their victim a way to make the end quick?
She is being stoned to death for alledged sexual offences…Why don’t you start worrying about this type of thing rather than our judicial system.
September 25, 2007 - 06:52 AM on September 25th, 2007
16, PAMMMMM!!!!! The piece of crap from Germany ought to have to confront the fact that convicted killers never offering their victims parole or commutation of the death sentence the killer is imposing. There is no review of a killer’s method of death as there is with an execution.
The piece of crap is trying to draw a moral equivalance where there is none. What the piece of crap needs is a boot up his A** to get his brain functioning.
September 25, 2007 - 08:16 AM on September 25th, 2007
16- “She is being stoned to death for alledged sexual offences:Why don’t you start worrying about this type of thing rather than our judicial system.”
I worry about the “reason” for her verdict, too. But I think, the greater concern about the whole story lies in the horrible act of this kind burial to enable “higher efficiency”. Not to mention that stoning implies that the delinquent may suffer unbelievable pain before his/her death.
I worry, because I don’t see in ANY judicial system a justification of anybody “legally murdering” somebody else in the way it is done by death row.
If you wanna have it, do it PCD’s way by having the relatives of the victims do the execution on the murderer personally… But even then you have cases, where the defendant could not be proven by 100% valid evidence to be guilty!
As I said the fact that death candidates have been found innocent, years after their trial show that the system is not perfect…
September 25, 2007 - 08:22 AM on September 25th, 2007
Peejz, I thought you wanted to filter PCD’s (and if I responded the same way, my) excrement-flavoured statements?
September 25, 2007 - 08:27 AM on September 25th, 2007
18, try reading again. Maybe hire an interpreter as you are wrong as to what I said. No wonder you are so screwed up. You can’t read and comprehend.
September 25, 2007 - 08:32 AM on September 25th, 2007
17- ” What the piece of crap needs is a boot up his A** to get his brain functioning.”
Just a question on the language:
The word “Ass/Asshole” is more offensive than “crap”???
September 25, 2007 - 10:03 AM on September 25th, 2007
Number One….gee, what a surprise to find yet another Muslim-Bashing, Islamophobic topic on Right Voices.
Number Two…gosh, what a surprise to find PCD unable to converse with someone without using 5 year old childish taunts and “insults”.
Seriously guy, are you retarded?
You sure do write like it.
September 25, 2007 - 10:13 AM on September 25th, 2007
SFL…in case you are unaware or ill informed this is a real picture of a 16 year old girl who was stoned to death in Iran. That’s what they do. Sorry you feel the need to constantly feel sorry for those muslim societies who regularly engage in this type of justice.
September 25, 2007 - 10:51 AM on September 25th, 2007
What? Our shit doesn’t stink, too?
Are you saying that the US never killed innocent people?
Are you saying that the US never had large populations of people who HATE and FEAR another people so deeply that many of them would commit acts of violence against them?
It wasn’t that long ago we had hundreds of black males swinging from trees at the end of a rope.
My point? Muslims aren’t the only people who abuse and murder other people.
You guys are just utterly lost in your islamophobia and fear.
I pity all of you…and the children you influence with your poison.
September 25, 2007 - 12:04 PM on September 25th, 2007
“Are you saying that the US never killed innocent people?”
The U.S. doesn’t target them. THAT is the obvious difference.
September 25, 2007 - 12:07 PM on September 25th, 2007
Perhaps we should be stoning Leftists in this country? I’d start with Chapatraitor Ted, “In Cold Blood” Murtha, Turban Durbin, etc.
I guess it’s okay since the Islamofascists do it and the Leftists don’t seem to have a problem with it.
September 25, 2007 - 12:10 PM on September 25th, 2007
24, SFL, the only thing you can’t see is your worthless moral equivocations. You live on logic totauologies. You ignore the sand you build your logic castles upon.
You know IF America haters like you were targeted, you wouldn’t believe that was self-defense for America, yet you embrace every dictator and killer who hates America as being morally superior to the US. You are sick.
September 25, 2007 - 01:06 PM on September 25th, 2007
Wrong again, PCD…(i’m seeing a pattern here)
You and your ilk are hopelessly lost in your islamophobia and fear that you refuse to accept that ALL men are capable of evil.
fundamentalists of ANY belief, be it religous or social, are capable of doing great evil.
As a liberal, I believe killing of ANY kind is wrong. So naturally, stoning a woman to death is a very bad thing.
As was the lynching of hundreds if not thousands of blacks here in the US was wrong, too.
We are ALL capable of just as much evil as any fundamentalist muslim is capable of.
THAT is my point.
But, of course, you just don’t get it.
September 25, 2007 - 01:13 PM on September 25th, 2007
28, SFSicko, your “point” is trying to moral equivalize events from the past to the evil of the Islamofascist present. Sickos like you justify the burning down of LA by Blacks because the Koreans didn’t give the Blacks money they demanded for not burning them out.
Liberals like you trot out your moral equivalance to justify Hispanic construction workers were run off of riot damaged building sites by blacks.
SF, what you don’t get is Islamofascism is EVIL and wrong.
September 25, 2007 - 01:19 PM on September 25th, 2007
“SF, what you don’t get is Islamofascism is EVIL and wrong.”
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PCD, what YOU don’t get is that hatred and fear are EVIL AND WRONG.
September 25, 2007 - 01:27 PM on September 25th, 2007
30, SFMoron, you are the dumbass that doesn’t get anything. You can’t see that Islamofascism is evil. You can’t see their practices are wrong.
September 25, 2007 - 03:12 PM on September 25th, 2007
When you resort to childish insults and taunts, you INSTANTLY lose the argument.
Now try again, but talk like a big boy.
September 26, 2007 - 02:53 AM on September 26th, 2007
23- “SFL:in case you are unaware or ill informed this is a real picture of a 16 year old girl who was stoned to death in Iran.”
BonBon, I personally think that any kind of statewise ordered killing is murder- how cruel it may ever be done (and earlier in this thread I posted a link which showed the slaughters in US prisons!).
The question is: Is it legally justified in Iran (or somewhere else) to have death verdicts on sexual offenses. The answer would be: Yes, if the law which enables this is supported by the people who are affected by it!
I recently saw a report on a town in Georgia, where it is a duty to have at least one firearm in each household. If you don’t have a gun- you commit a crime! I don’t understand it- but if people there want to have it that way…
A copy of part of the town ordinance:
“ARTICLE I. IN GENERAL
Sec. 34-1. Heads of households to maintain firearms.
(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefor.
(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
(Code 1986, § 4-3-10)
Sec. 34-2. Use of firearms.
No person shall fire a gun, pistol or other firearm in the city, except in the defense of person or property, and except peace officers or military forces of this state or the United States, in the discharge of official duties.â€
September 26, 2007 - 04:48 AM on September 26th, 2007
I guess I see the death penalty very differently. When you have a civilized society and a rule of law designed to protect the public you have to invoke punishment for those that hurt the innocent. Historically there have been some really gruesome murders and it’s up to society to protect the innocent by invoking justice and sometimes it’s the death penalty. But you must understand the death penalty is not always given either. There are many cases where it is not justified; the murder fell into another category. Our juries, judges and prosecutors go out of their way to investigate whether or not a case is a dp case.
The only offense which ever even gets the dp is murder and usually with extenuating circumstances. Never for someones sexual preferences or adultery or any other non crime such as those.
As for the guns, we have something called the second amendment. Personally I’m afraid of guns and don’t want anything to do with one but I would never take the right away from anyone to own one.
September 26, 2007 - 06:12 AM on September 26th, 2007
33, piece of crap, you have no common sense, and you prove it with every post. Just run back to your Imam and tell him, “the Americans say No Sale and go to Hell”.
September 26, 2007 - 06:13 AM on September 26th, 2007
32, SF Girleyman, you have noting to say and you proved it. Go hide under your bed and make sure John Ashcroft isn’t there.
September 28, 2007 - 12:29 AM on September 28th, 2007
Hey Matthias, there are a few things you left out of your post about Kennesaw, Georgia.
1: The law has been on the books for about 25 years.
2: Anyone objecting to owning a gun can go to city hall and fill out a form requesting exemption and receive it.
3: Noone has been prosecuted for not owning a gun
4: Crime in Kennesaw has dropped to almost nothing since the ordinance was enacted.
SFL this post is about an upcoming week wherein an attempt will be made to educate people as to the threat that Islamofascism poses to the world. It isn’t about capital punishment or islamophobia. It’s about Islamofascists’ stated goal of eventual world domination and the spreading of Sharia law. When someone is telling you that they are intending to kill you, it only behooves you to listen.
BonBon, my ex-wife wasn’t familiar with guns until she went into ROTC. She wasn’t much better after she got out and we got married. As soon after the wedding as possible, I bought a handgun and taught her how to use it. With my being out of town on Field Training Exercises, it was the only way that she chould protect herself. The police even told her to shoot anyone who broke in while I was gone when she started receiving obscene phone calls. Unbeknownst to most of the people in this country, the police have NO OBLIGATION to respond to a 911 call for help. The Supreme Court ruled decades ago that the police are only responsible to maintain general order and have no responsibility to protect any single individual. If you want to learn the truth about guns, the NRA does have a number of classes for women, frequently taught by women so there is no reason to feel embarrassed.
September 28, 2007 - 04:28 AM on September 28th, 2007
37- Actually it was Peejz, who added the informational paragraph on that Kennesaw-Situation.
Which, Peejz, I do not really appreciate without some highlighting which parts come from which person. Like it is right now, it is not a good style.
September 28, 2007 - 05:21 AM on September 28th, 2007
38- I’ll note that Matthias, just after you come up with a reason that I may have done that…
September 28, 2007 - 06:10 AM on September 28th, 2007
This is a bit of a thread hijack, but to dunderheads like the piece of crap from Germany, Bush had no reason to invade Iraq. Well, here’s the reason: http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2007/09/27/bush-aznar-pre-iraq-war-memo/
Now, watch the Bush haters lie and carry on.