<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: BREAKING: UAW ON STRIKE AT GM PLANTS</title>
	<atom:link href="http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/</link>
	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 14:43:07 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656217</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656217</guid>
		<description>P.S. I used a hypothetical situation when speaking to them, I did not state any names....

My scenario was that I work for a company that had a policy in place that allowed employees to accrue vacation time and carry it from year to year..In November of 2006, the company changed policy and told employees to use it or lose it by December 31, 2006.  Employer could not or would not grant all employees their requests, therefore I lost 3 days pay....

Gal who hold phonetoo close to mouth said small claims court, go to small claims court..you have a case there...they can&#039;t take that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I used a hypothetical situation when speaking to them, I did not state any names&#8230;.</p>
<p>My scenario was that I work for a company that had a policy in place that allowed employees to accrue vacation time and carry it from year to year..In November of 2006, the company changed policy and told employees to use it or lose it by December 31, 2006.  Employer could not or would not grant all employees their requests, therefore I lost 3 days pay&#8230;.</p>
<p>Gal who hold phonetoo close to mouth said small claims court, go to small claims court..you have a case there&#8230;they can&#8217;t take that time.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656216</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656216</guid>
		<description>Ted, I just talked to the labor board of Ohio, 1-614-644-2239...You do have a claim in small claims court..they can change their policy, but they can&#039;t take your pay.  If you and some of the other employees band together, it may be worth it for you to go to court.  You may be able to handle the case on your own actually, but one way or the other, you were done wrong by the company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, I just talked to the labor board of Ohio, 1-614-644-2239&#8230;You do have a claim in small claims court..they can change their policy, but they can&#8217;t take your pay.  If you and some of the other employees band together, it may be worth it for you to go to court.  You may be able to handle the case on your own actually, but one way or the other, you were done wrong by the company.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TedintheShed</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656208</link>
		<dc:creator>TedintheShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656208</guid>
		<description>State of Ohio says otherwise- vacation isn&#039;t banked pay.

In addition to the Federally issued Fairness DOctrine, most states have their own. In Ohio&#039;s case, it is  implemented aspart of the ORC.

What they did was legal under Ohio Law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State of Ohio says otherwise- vacation isn&#8217;t banked pay.</p>
<p>In addition to the Federally issued Fairness DOctrine, most states have their own. In Ohio&#8217;s case, it is  implemented aspart of the ORC.</p>
<p>What they did was legal under Ohio Law.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656206</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656206</guid>
		<description>No Ted, it isn&#039;t legal for them to do that, that is what I am trying to tell you.  You and your fellow employees need to get with the labor board..that&#039;s free...they are there for you as well as employers.  Ted, they took a paycheck from you.  There is nothing legal about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Ted, it isn&#8217;t legal for them to do that, that is what I am trying to tell you.  You and your fellow employees need to get with the labor board..that&#8217;s free&#8230;they are there for you as well as employers.  Ted, they took a paycheck from you.  There is nothing legal about that.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TedintheShed</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656203</link>
		<dc:creator>TedintheShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656203</guid>
		<description>&quot;Was the company able to grant every employees time off request and still be able to operate? I doubt it. The time was pay banked and you can&#039;t screw with pay legally.&quot;

The answer to your question is that they simply lost the vacation time and was not compensated. 

I know- because I was one of them. I lost 3 days paid vacation. But it was legal for them to do, but fallls under your classification of abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was the company able to grant every employees time off request and still be able to operate? I doubt it. The time was pay banked and you can&#8217;t screw with pay legally.&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer to your question is that they simply lost the vacation time and was not compensated. </p>
<p>I know- because I was one of them. I lost 3 days paid vacation. But it was legal for them to do, but fallls under your classification of abuse.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656193</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656193</guid>
		<description>Pam I think you are right. That vacation is earned; they can&#039;t just make it go away without compensation. 

They must be evil, mean-spirited selfish Republicans!:o This yet another reason to vote for the Poeple&#039;s Party, the Democratic Party! Because they care! Because they are fighting for the common man, the little guy, the poor, the oppressed, the disenfranchised! :d/

They are clean, pure, standing up against the Republican culture of corruption! If they take lobby money, it is ONLY to keep it out of the corrupt hands of the Republicans!


=))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam I think you are right. That vacation is earned; they can&#8217;t just make it go away without compensation. </p>
<p>They must be evil, mean-spirited selfish Republicans!:o This yet another reason to vote for the Poeple&#8217;s Party, the Democratic Party! Because they care! Because they are fighting for the common man, the little guy, the poor, the oppressed, the disenfranchised! :d/</p>
<p>They are clean, pure, standing up against the Republican culture of corruption! If they take lobby money, it is ONLY to keep it out of the corrupt hands of the Republicans!</p>
<p>=))</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656191</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656191</guid>
		<description>As an addendum, my sister&#039;s company allows employee to bank time, but if not used by end of fiscal year, the money is paid to employee.  They are legally allowed to not have carry-over....key being, the time must be paid for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an addendum, my sister&#8217;s company allows employee to bank time, but if not used by end of fiscal year, the money is paid to employee.  They are legally allowed to not have carry-over&#8230;.key being, the time must be paid for.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656190</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656190</guid>
		<description>42- Ted, the example you gave may in fact be illegal.  At will does not give an employer the right to do whatever they wish to do.  There are guidlines for both the employer and the employee and it seems to me, the example given could be challenged under the fairness doctrine, as well as contractual obligation,  of At-will laws.

Employer allowed accrued vacation time.  Employees have banked time based on said policy.  Company sets new policy that is not practical for employer or employee.  Was the company able to grant every employees time off request and still be able to operate?  I doubt it.  The time was pay banked and you can&#039;t screw with pay legally.

MI is at will as well.  My sister&#039;s employer changed their policy as well.  When the policy went into effect, the employees were paid for the banked time because it was cash sitting in limbo...In order to stay within the law, the company had to pay the employees this money,or banked time.  They were proactive, whereas, it appears your company seems to think they can do what they want and wait to be challenged....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42- Ted, the example you gave may in fact be illegal.  At will does not give an employer the right to do whatever they wish to do.  There are guidlines for both the employer and the employee and it seems to me, the example given could be challenged under the fairness doctrine, as well as contractual obligation,  of At-will laws.</p>
<p>Employer allowed accrued vacation time.  Employees have banked time based on said policy.  Company sets new policy that is not practical for employer or employee.  Was the company able to grant every employees time off request and still be able to operate?  I doubt it.  The time was pay banked and you can&#8217;t screw with pay legally.</p>
<p>MI is at will as well.  My sister&#8217;s employer changed their policy as well.  When the policy went into effect, the employees were paid for the banked time because it was cash sitting in limbo&#8230;In order to stay within the law, the company had to pay the employees this money,or banked time.  They were proactive, whereas, it appears your company seems to think they can do what they want and wait to be challenged&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TedintheShed</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656182</link>
		<dc:creator>TedintheShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656182</guid>
		<description>&quot;The same standards don&#039;t apply to the employees that apply to the employer.&quot;

In a free market, they absolutely do. 

For example, in an at will employment state, my employer can terminate employment at any time without notice and so can the employee.

&quot;Abuse by a corporation would be cutting off insurance with no notice&quot;.

&quot;Abuse would be changing coprporate policies without notice/explanation to employees.&quot;


So now I am confused, because this is perfectly legal for a corporation to do in many states. Last year in the end of November, my company change policy without notice, telling us that we were no longer allowed to carry over vacation to the next year and we had to use it or loose it in the last month. Many lost it because their superviors would not approve the vacation request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The same standards don&#8217;t apply to the employees that apply to the employer.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a free market, they absolutely do. </p>
<p>For example, in an at will employment state, my employer can terminate employment at any time without notice and so can the employee.</p>
<p>&#8220;Abuse by a corporation would be cutting off insurance with no notice&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Abuse would be changing coprporate policies without notice/explanation to employees.&#8221;</p>
<p>So now I am confused, because this is perfectly legal for a corporation to do in many states. Last year in the end of November, my company change policy without notice, telling us that we were no longer allowed to carry over vacation to the next year and we had to use it or loose it in the last month. Many lost it because their superviors would not approve the vacation request.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/comment-page-1/#comment-656135</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://rightvoices.com/2007/09/24/breaking-uaw-on-strike-at-gm-plants/#comment-656135</guid>
		<description>BonBon, you&#039;re dad was lucky. Coal Miners weren&#039;t known for beating people up. They were known for shooting at people. 

SFL, I can honestly tell you that Dad hated the Union most of the time. He hated having to be out of work for weeks on end because some moron at the mine did something stupid and the union called a strike to get the idiot his job back. That included occasions when the incident involved the moron doing something that put other miners&#039; lives at risk. Sometimes the strike would be because someone at another mine did something stupid so some idiot at his mine would decide that they would go out on strike in sympathy. It was not unusual for there to be half a dozen one to two week strikes in the 12 months leading up to the end of the contract. This meant that when the contract expired, he had no savings to pay bills for as long as it took for the contract to be resolved. One contract took 4 months negotiate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BonBon, you&#8217;re dad was lucky. Coal Miners weren&#8217;t known for beating people up. They were known for shooting at people. </p>
<p>SFL, I can honestly tell you that Dad hated the Union most of the time. He hated having to be out of work for weeks on end because some moron at the mine did something stupid and the union called a strike to get the idiot his job back. That included occasions when the incident involved the moron doing something that put other miners&#8217; lives at risk. Sometimes the strike would be because someone at another mine did something stupid so some idiot at his mine would decide that they would go out on strike in sympathy. It was not unusual for there to be half a dozen one to two week strikes in the 12 months leading up to the end of the contract. This meant that when the contract expired, he had no savings to pay bills for as long as it took for the contract to be resolved. One contract took 4 months negotiate.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

