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Scouts Get $199,000 Rent Increase From Philly Over Anti Gay Policy

By: Pam On: Oct/18/07 - 22 Comments

Is this a case of the gay mafia going after the Boy Scouts? One has to wonder based on the fact that they hadn’t had a problem until..the new guy showed up:

The city has ordered the organization to pay a fair-market rent of $200,000 ” $199,999 more than its current $1 annual rate ” to maintain its longtime offices in a landmark Philadelphia building because of its refusal to allow openly gay Scouts and Scout leaders.

City Solicitor says Romulo L. Diaz Jr. contends that Mayor John Street, City Council and the Fairmount Park Commission (which oversees historic properties) have been asking the Scouts for the past year to submit a clear-cut anti-discrimination policy, and they haven’t done so. In order to comply with Philadelphia laws, he said, he has given the Scouts a choice: agree definitively in writing to stop discriminating, or pay a new rent at market value.

“They had been put on notice over the last year by the mayor, the City Council and the Fairmount Park Commission that they had a choice to make,” Diaz said in a phone interview. “They need to provide evidence that they would not engage in discriminatory practices against gays as either Scout masters or Boy Scouts. …. They have either not responded or essentially played the victim.”

The Boy Scouts’ Philadelphia branch, called the Cradle of Liberty Council, argues that its hands are tied because of the national chapter’s refusal to reverse its anti-gay policy ” even though, it says, it tried to fight it a few years ago.

The city Scouts say they agreed on a compromise with the prior solicitor ” which involved the adoption of a promise not to engage in “unlawful discrimination” similar to one the New York chapter has ” and claims the current solicitor has an ulterior motive because he himself is openly gay.

“We adopted a non-discrimination policy in 2005 with the city’s help, which is ironic now,” said Cradle of Liberty spokesman Jeff Jubelirer. “Since that time, there’s been no one challenging the policy, no reports of discrimination. Nothing has come to the public’s attention. And yet the current solicitor thinks this language is not clear enough.

What changed in the 2 years? If the Scouts did in fact work with the city, why is it an issue now?
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22 Responses to “Scouts Get $199,000 Rent Increase From Philly Over Anti Gay Policy”

  1. Potbelly Stove
    October 18, 2007 - 07:31 PM on October 18th, 2007

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    October 18, 2007 - 07:39 PM on October 18th, 2007

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  3. FrmrArtyOffcr
    October 18, 2007 - 10:22 PM on October 18th, 2007

    I guess freedom of association only applies to gays and other liberal groups. Isn’t funny how gay and feminist groups can deny membership to straight or males but heaven forbid that they themselves be denied admission.

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  6. Toasted Tofu
    October 18, 2007 - 11:57 PM on October 18th, 2007

    3- You’ll have to point out to me where any gay or feminist group enjoys a $1 lease on public-owned property which has a fair-market rent of $200,000. Then, and only then, you may be onto something.

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    October 19, 2007 - 12:11 AM on October 19th, 2007

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    October 19, 2007 - 05:57 AM on October 19th, 2007

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    October 19, 2007 - 06:34 AM on October 19th, 2007

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    October 19, 2007 - 07:51 AM on October 19th, 2007

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  13. PCD
    October 19, 2007 - 08:02 AM on October 19th, 2007

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  14. PCD
    October 19, 2007 - 08:04 AM on October 19th, 2007

    4, Tofu, show me where gay and feminist groups do as much as the Scouts do to build good character and community values? You can’t because your side is always trying to tear down society and they work to screw up kids.

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    October 19, 2007 - 08:24 AM on October 19th, 2007

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    October 19, 2007 - 09:16 AM on October 19th, 2007

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    October 19, 2007 - 07:28 PM on October 19th, 2007

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  19. FrmrArtyOffcr
    October 19, 2007 - 07:53 PM on October 19th, 2007

    Well Tofu,

    When was the last time that a gay or feminist group gathered millions of cans of food for needy families? The Boy Scouts do it every year.

    When was the last time a gay or feminist group took innercity kids hiking or camping in the woods and taught them about self reliance? Or taught them to swim? About the only groups that do that are the Scouts, Boys and Girls Clubs and the YMCA/YWCA.

    Which Gay or feminist group holds as its values being Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean and Reverent? Those are the Scout Laws and in the Scout Oath are sworn to.

    Which Gay or Feminist group teaches people to “do a good turn daily” That’s the Scout Slogan. Isn’t that a wonderful thought? Helping out others without expecting reward. I personally think we could use more of that in this world. Don’t you?

    Which Gay or feminist Group teaches their membership to be prepared for unexpected emergencies so as not to have to rely on others to survive them while helping those who are not? The Boy Scouts motto is “Be Prepared” and they teach First Aid, Emergency Preparedness, Safety, Camping and other skills to back it up. And Yes I do have those Merit badges.

    Which Gay or Feminist group promotes anywhere near the following:
    “On My Honor” – This means that My word is my bond and I will not willingly break it
    “I will do my best” – Not slack off and do as little as necessary to get by
    “To do my Duty” – Now there’s a word the liberals seem to have forgotten DUTY.
    “To God ” – Note it doesn’t specify which God only a God and all faiths are accepted. As Atheists don’t believe in a god, their oaths have little to no value.
    “And my country” – Yep, the Scouts do foster a sense of duty to country. Not the UN.
    “And obey the Scout law” See above for what that entails.

    I’d bet if a Gay, atheist or Feminist group even offered to open a youth services center, you’d be screaming that they needed an entirely new building built at government expense. With the youth services that the Boy Scouts provide, cut rate rent is the least that Philadelphia should give them. With the situation with the youth in Philadelphia last time I was there, they need what the Boy Scouts have to offer BADLY. Not to mention the millions of tourism dollars that flow into Philadelphia every time they hold the Boy Scout Jamboree in Valley Forge 10 miles away.

    I find it amazing that the liberals scream about innercity youths needing services to keep them from falling into a life of crime, while disparaging the one organization with a better than 90 yr track record of teaching young men the skills and attitudes that they need to grow into productive adults. With the Tiger Cubs program starting as young as five, followed by Cub Scouts, Webelos and on into Boy Scouts and after turning 18 the Explorer program, there is an organization that can teach a child to try hard and succeed versus ending up as a criminal thug. Too bad the liberals are more interested in spouting sound bites and pushing political agendas than actually doing something to prevent and solve the problems of inner city youth.

    If you don’t think that the values taught in scouting stick, I’ve recited all of the above from memory and I haven’t been a scout in over 29 years. My only regret being that I didn’t stay active long enough to make Eagle. I had completed the necessary merit badges but got out over disgust over inner troop politics.

  20. snowy egret
    October 19, 2007 - 10:30 PM on October 19th, 2007

    And when can we start tarring and feathering those sleezy bunch of sleezballs in the city of brotherly love:-w

  21. FrmrArtyOffcr
    October 20, 2007 - 09:27 AM on October 20th, 2007

    Come to think of it, would anyone care to explain why the Boy Scouts should allow Gays to be Scout Masters considering the history of Gays as Catholic Priests? If gay Catholic Priests are molesting teenage boys in churches, how much easier would it be for a gay Scout Master to do it on a camping trip in a forest? If the liberals are so interested in doing what’s best “for the children”, wouldn’t it simply make more sense to try and keep Gay adult males away from prepubescent and young teen boys? I would hasten to guess that more Gay males assault boys than gun owning parents shoot their kids, but the liberals want to take away our guns as a means to protect “the children”. If it works for inanimate objects like guns and cigarettes, why wouldn’t it work for conscious thinking adults?

    Child molestation, like every other crime, requires three distinct things to be present to occur. There has to be Means (If you don’t understand what the means to molest a child are, might I suggest you take a human sexuality class or at least rent a porn video.), Motive (These are sick sociopaths who get off on molesting children, that’s their motivation.), and OPPORTUNITY. (If the perp doesn’t have the opportunity to commit the crime, he can’t commit it.) The Boy Scouts are trying to protect the Scouts from molesters by denying the molesters the opportunity to commit the crime. BTW, the Constitution doesn’t require that any organization allow anyone who wants to join to do so.

    As for saying that a background check would prevent child molesters from being able to be Scout Masters, that’s a BS argument. The liberals have so tied up the system on passing information about child molesters over privacy concerns for the criminal that over half of the states don’t have useable records, Identity theft is rampant, and criminals don’t follow the law (which is why they’re called criminals in the first place isn’t it?) about registering. One child molester was caught and FINALLY sent to prison after plea bargaining down to a misdemeanor on over 5 occasions in as many states over a 20+ year period. In his possession was a coded log book of all of his molestations dating back over 25 years and over 5,000 entries. Since he had plead down to a misdemeanor on all of those occasions, he HAD NO RECORD of being a sex offender. Is this the person you want taking your son on camping trips? BTW he presented himself as the kindly neighbor who would befriend single mothers and take their sons camping and fishing where he would then molest them.

  22. Right Voices » Blog Archive » Philadelphia Tells The Boys Scouts To Admit Gays Or They Get Tossed
    November 19, 2007 - 09:20 AM on November 19th, 2007

    [...] This story is a continuation of this story from October. Unless the Boy Scouts admit homosexuals, the city will boot them from their $1.00/year building, citing a local 1982 “fair practices” law. [...]

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