As for Eisenhower not agreeing with their politics, what political party did they belong to?

Hopefully time will help fix these problems. Where is the Great Comminicator when we need him!

My statement, on which you contended was:

“They’ve rightly been the inventors of the concept of public funded roads and infrastructure.”

Any way you slice it whether in US history or world history, this has been an idea contributed by a liberal idealogy: Logan, Thomas, FAirbanks, the Romans.

What is truly amazing here to me is the absolute rejection of one side by the other. The refusal to even acknowledge each other’s contributions to America is amazing. If Jefferson and Franklin (two flaming liberals in a annals of history) were trated by their conterparts like folks are today, there would not be an America.

If modern liberals thought that pouring millions of cubic yards of concrete and asphalt might disrupt the mating habits of a toad, or in anyway benefit big business or the military, they’d have marched on Washington to stop it. Look at the reactions to the false claims about the endangered status of the snail darter stopping a hydroelectic dam that would provide low cost power to tens of thousands in the depressed Appalachian region of the Tennessee Valley.

Then I’ll play the Rome card, and will say that infrastructure was actually invented by them- one of the most liberal societies of history.

Come one Pam. That patchwork of a few canals, railroad and the Cumberland Highway does not denote an infrastructure and the argument is specious at best. It wasn’t even “modern for it’s time” as Rome had a better infrastructures hundreds of years earlier.

Anyway you slice this- it is a liberal idea.

BTW, the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956 was also a work of MacDonald and Fairbanks:

“The concept of an Interstate system as we know it was first described in a 1939 report to Congress called Toll Roads and Free Roads. The report rejected the toll superhighway network Congress had suggested; revenue from tolls on most segments would not support the bonds issued for their construction. However, the report added that the country needed a toll-free express highway network. Thomas H. MacDonald, Chief of the U.S. Bureau of Public Roads, and Herbert S. Fairbank, Chief of the agency’s Division of Information, prepared the report.”

http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/faq.htm#question1

Yes Bon Bon, Ike did. per the article and cited others:

The modern era of roads didn’t begin until 1956 when President Eisenhower signed into law the federal aid highway act. With it, he authorized the construction of 40,000 miles of limited access roads creating the interstate highway system. It was the biggest public works project this country has ever seen, and was lauded as one of the most important, as well.

Crediting modern infrastructure concept to the pre 1916 concepts just isn’t right- it is apples to oranges. Referencing the same website you did:

“Thomas H. MacDonald, who served as the chief of the Bureau of Public Roads (BPR) for 34 years, is the towering figure of road transportation in the 20th century. He has no equal, and even today, the United States enjoys his legacy in the mobility that characterizes our life and the sustained economic strength of our nation.”

Sorry, this is just a recognized fact of history. If you want me to site the fact that first roads built were those in Rome, and those folks were definately liberal I can.

However, let’s not. The modern day concept of infrastructure in the United States is a liberal one. That’s a plain simple fact. You can compare it with the Cumberland Highway and I can compare it to the Roman highway systems, but that’s just not relative.