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	<title>Comments on: UPDATED: The train wreck in Pakistan&#8230;..Musharraf declares emergency rule in Pakistan</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthias Roggenbuck</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/11/03/musharraf-declares-emergency-rule-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-668903</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Roggenbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8- Michael- you simply misunderstand the whole situation... The boys are &quot;Freedomators&quot;!!! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8- Michael- you simply misunderstand the whole situation&#8230; The boys are &#8220;Freedomators&#8221;!!! <img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_wink.gif' alt='&#59;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#59;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/11/03/musharraf-declares-emergency-rule-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-668877</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, my name is Michael, and I am a hit-and-run troll pasting propaganda links in topics on right-wing sites.

They don&#039;t pay me much for this; yeah I know, Soros can certainly afford more, LOL!

But since I live in the basement of my parent&#039;s home it&#039;s okay.

:-b</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, my name is Michael, and I am a hit-and-run troll pasting propaganda links in topics on right-wing sites.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t pay me much for this; yeah I know, Soros can certainly afford more, LOL!</p>
<p>But since I live in the basement of my parent&#8217;s home it&#8217;s okay.</p>
<p><img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_glasses.gif' alt='&#58;&#45;&#98;' class='wp-smiley' width='24' height='18' title='&#58;&#45;&#98;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pugliese</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/11/03/musharraf-declares-emergency-rule-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-668835</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pugliese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musharraf: Three Steps ahead of Bush in the Dictatorship Race
 http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_tumerica_071106_musharraf_3a_three_ste.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musharraf: Three Steps ahead of Bush in the Dictatorship Race<br />
 <a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_tumerica_071106_musharraf_3a_three_ste.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_tumerica_071106_musharraf_3a_three_ste.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Roggenbuck</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/11/03/musharraf-declares-emergency-rule-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-668345</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Roggenbuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3- &quot;Hope some keeps a eye on those liberal wackos&quot;

Yes, democracy and free elections only make sense if it is guaranteed that the right people win... :d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3- &#8220;Hope some keeps a eye on those liberal wackos&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, democracy and free elections only make sense if it is guaranteed that the right people win&#8230; <img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#100;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#100;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that not only does the U.S. need Musharref as an ally but the nukes cannot be allowed to be compromised overrides all concerns. Mark, you and your folks are picking a very odd time to suddenly rise up for Pakistani democracy. Aren&#039;t there other nations you could pick to focus your efforts on?

How about helping the people of Mexico throw off their shackles? Then maybe they wouldn&#039;t have top come here. Yeah, that&#039;s a great project for you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that not only does the U.S. need Musharref as an ally but the nukes cannot be allowed to be compromised overrides all concerns. Mark, you and your folks are picking a very odd time to suddenly rise up for Pakistani democracy. Aren&#8217;t there other nations you could pick to focus your efforts on?</p>
<p>How about helping the people of Mexico throw off their shackles? Then maybe they wouldn&#8217;t have top come here. Yeah, that&#8217;s a great project for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also one very positive long term effect. Once Musharraf cleans out the Al Queada nests in the tribal regions, the US can send in aid and start building a relationship with the tribesmen that will make it harder for Al Quaeda to regain a foot hold there. Much like they have done in Al Anbar and other provinces in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also one very positive long term effect. Once Musharraf cleans out the Al Queada nests in the tribal regions, the US can send in aid and start building a relationship with the tribesmen that will make it harder for Al Quaeda to regain a foot hold there. Much like they have done in Al Anbar and other provinces in Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is at least one short term advantage to Musharraf declaring martial law, it will give him the ability to go into the tribal lands of Waziristan with as much military force as necessary to drive out Al Quaeda, or at least drive them out into the open where the Pakistani or US Military can engage and destroy them. If Musharraf were really savvy, He&#039;d install Bhutto as at least a figure head until he has dealt with the Islamofascist terrorists. Let her run small day to day governmental operations while he maintains control over the Army and goes after the terrorists. She should be VERY amenable to this as she would not fair well if the Islamofascists come to power, and can expect to continue to be the target of their attacks. This also allows Musharraf  to ask the US for military assistance in dealing with the terror training camps in Pakistan.

As for Musharraf and Bhutto being corrupt, what do you expect? They&#039;re third world governmental officials. Not to say that ALL third world governmental officials are petty and corrupt, but the odds of finding one that isn&#039;t are pretty damn long. Sort of like the odds of the Miami Dolphins winning the Super Bowl this year. They aren&#039;t mathematically eliminated, but only because there is over half of the season left to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is at least one short term advantage to Musharraf declaring martial law, it will give him the ability to go into the tribal lands of Waziristan with as much military force as necessary to drive out Al Quaeda, or at least drive them out into the open where the Pakistani or US Military can engage and destroy them. If Musharraf were really savvy, He&#8217;d install Bhutto as at least a figure head until he has dealt with the Islamofascist terrorists. Let her run small day to day governmental operations while he maintains control over the Army and goes after the terrorists. She should be VERY amenable to this as she would not fair well if the Islamofascists come to power, and can expect to continue to be the target of their attacks. This also allows Musharraf  to ask the US for military assistance in dealing with the terror training camps in Pakistan.</p>
<p>As for Musharraf and Bhutto being corrupt, what do you expect? They&#8217;re third world governmental officials. Not to say that ALL third world governmental officials are petty and corrupt, but the odds of finding one that isn&#8217;t are pretty damn long. Sort of like the odds of the Miami Dolphins winning the Super Bowl this year. They aren&#8217;t mathematically eliminated, but only because there is over half of the season left to play.</p>
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		<title>By: snowy egret</title>
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		<dc:creator>snowy egret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope some keeps a eye on those liberal wackos=:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope some keeps a eye on those liberal wackos<img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_alien.gif' alt='&#61;&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#61;&#58;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not good.

Hope someone has an eye on those nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not good.</p>
<p>Hope someone has an eye on those nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kraft</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/11/03/musharraf-declares-emergency-rule-in-pakistan/comment-page-1/#comment-667585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A look at the history of Middle East makes it clear -- corrupt military governments that deny their people legitimate means of self-determination give rise to armed, radical Islamist uprisings,which are seen as popular reformers by a public demanding an end to corruption and state violence and repression. That&#039;s what led to the Taleban uprising against the corrupt warlords of Afghanistan, and the Iranian revolution against the U.S. supported Shah of Iran. 

If Pakistan&#039;s Supreme Court decided that Musharraf could not legally run for office, all hell would not break loose. Rather, one of Pakistan&#039;s two prior leaders would be elected to office. The one prior to Musharraf&#039;s coup was actually a legitimately elected leader who wasn&#039;t transparently stealing from the state, like Bhutto did.

It&#039;s time that U.S. foriegn policy started thinking about what&#039;s best for the people of Pakistan and their longterm democratic government, as opposed to maintaining a dysfunctional alliance with a dictator. Isn&#039;t that how we got into a mess with Saddam in the first place? 

In response to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071103/ts_nm/pakistan_emergency_dc_9;_ylt=AkHgPGRcyeP9rARMFRLKB0sE1vAI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;declaration of martial law&lt;/a&gt; and illegal dismissal of a Pakistani Supreme Court Justice, I am encouraging all bloggers out there who want true democratic rule for Pakistan&#039;s 165 million people to unite in opposition.

From now on, I am asking bloggers to consistantly refer to Musharraf as &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://insomnia.livejournal.com/771171.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf&lt;/a&gt;&quot; consistantly linking back to a post I made explaining this idea in greater detail.

The post allows threaded comments, so that those opposed to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf can start discussing ways that we can organize and unite in opposition to his dictatorial actions. 

My hope is that a consistant message of opposition to martial law and support for democracy in Pakistan can help to influence the media away from legitimizing the Musharraf regime by referring to him as a President. By definition, he cannot be a President if he refuses the right for his government&#039;s Supreme Court to decide whether his running for office is legal or not.

Please drop by the post, leave a comment as to what ideas you have on how we can best unite in opposition to martial law, and please do consider using the phrase &quot;Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf&quot;, linking back to the post.

Thank you,
Mark Kraft</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A look at the history of Middle East makes it clear &#8212; corrupt military governments that deny their people legitimate means of self-determination give rise to armed, radical Islamist uprisings,which are seen as popular reformers by a public demanding an end to corruption and state violence and repression. That&#8217;s what led to the Taleban uprising against the corrupt warlords of Afghanistan, and the Iranian revolution against the U.S. supported Shah of Iran. </p>
<p>If Pakistan&#8217;s Supreme Court decided that Musharraf could not legally run for office, all hell would not break loose. Rather, one of Pakistan&#8217;s two prior leaders would be elected to office. The one prior to Musharraf&#8217;s coup was actually a legitimately elected leader who wasn&#8217;t transparently stealing from the state, like Bhutto did.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time that U.S. foriegn policy started thinking about what&#8217;s best for the people of Pakistan and their longterm democratic government, as opposed to maintaining a dysfunctional alliance with a dictator. Isn&#8217;t that how we got into a mess with Saddam in the first place? </p>
<p>In response to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf&#8217;s <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071103/ts_nm/pakistan_emergency_dc_9;_ylt=AkHgPGRcyeP9rARMFRLKB0sE1vAI" rel="nofollow">declaration of martial law</a> and illegal dismissal of a Pakistani Supreme Court Justice, I am encouraging all bloggers out there who want true democratic rule for Pakistan&#8217;s 165 million people to unite in opposition.</p>
<p>From now on, I am asking bloggers to consistantly refer to Musharraf as &#8220;<a href="http://insomnia.livejournal.com/771171.html" rel="nofollow">Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf</a>&#8221; consistantly linking back to a post I made explaining this idea in greater detail.</p>
<p>The post allows threaded comments, so that those opposed to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf can start discussing ways that we can organize and unite in opposition to his dictatorial actions. </p>
<p>My hope is that a consistant message of opposition to martial law and support for democracy in Pakistan can help to influence the media away from legitimizing the Musharraf regime by referring to him as a President. By definition, he cannot be a President if he refuses the right for his government&#8217;s Supreme Court to decide whether his running for office is legal or not.</p>
<p>Please drop by the post, leave a comment as to what ideas you have on how we can best unite in opposition to martial law, and please do consider using the phrase &#8220;Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf&#8221;, linking back to the post.</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Mark Kraft</p>
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