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	<title>Comments on: Oregon: Judge Halts Law Granting Same Sex Couples Marriage Rights</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685643</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference is SFL, the racist group won&#039;t be held accountable if a black joins and then molests the juvenile members. The Boy Scouts would be. A private organization can choose it&#039;s membership requirements, that&#039;s why it&#039;s called a PRIVATE organization. 

Maybe you want your children being taken on camping trips by gay males with no other supervision, but that would make you a VERY small minority. I belong to an organization that is currently defending itself against a lawsuit because an adult member used his position as a youth activity supervisor to molest children during camping trips where the parents were actually elsewhere at the campsite. The molester&#039;s name is Benjamin Schragger if you want to look it up. Noone suspected Ben of being a molester. He is such a &quot;nice&quot; guy.

You&#039;re simply a gay molester apologist and need to understand that until it&#039;s your child, your friend&#039;s children, or in my case some kids I played little league with when I was a kid are the ones molested, your opinion is worth just slightly less than previously processed bovine feed. 

Why don&#039;t you go out and try to organize a youth organization for NAMBLA? Let parents choose whether they want their kids going camping with a bunch of molesters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference is SFL, the racist group won&#8217;t be held accountable if a black joins and then molests the juvenile members. The Boy Scouts would be. A private organization can choose it&#8217;s membership requirements, that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called a PRIVATE organization. </p>
<p>Maybe you want your children being taken on camping trips by gay males with no other supervision, but that would make you a VERY small minority. I belong to an organization that is currently defending itself against a lawsuit because an adult member used his position as a youth activity supervisor to molest children during camping trips where the parents were actually elsewhere at the campsite. The molester&#8217;s name is Benjamin Schragger if you want to look it up. Noone suspected Ben of being a molester. He is such a &#8220;nice&#8221; guy.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re simply a gay molester apologist and need to understand that until it&#8217;s your child, your friend&#8217;s children, or in my case some kids I played little league with when I was a kid are the ones molested, your opinion is worth just slightly less than previously processed bovine feed. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you go out and try to organize a youth organization for NAMBLA? Let parents choose whether they want their kids going camping with a bunch of molesters.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685621</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show me how this involves TAX DOLLARS going to the Boy Scouts?  Your argument has holes big enough to drive trucks through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me how this involves TAX DOLLARS going to the Boy Scouts?  Your argument has holes big enough to drive trucks through.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685400</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boyscouts own that building on that property, and the boyscouts were actually given the land too.  This is not your typical case of a non profit just moving into some building and discriminating at the taxpayers expence...This is their property and they have the SCOTUS on their side..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boyscouts own that building on that property, and the boyscouts were actually given the land too.  This is not your typical case of a non profit just moving into some building and discriminating at the taxpayers expence&#8230;This is their property and they have the SCOTUS on their side..</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685395</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In the case of the public property, the use is to denied to the Boy Scouts. It is not denied to other users.&quot;


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Help me out here, who else discriminates against gays and atheists that also receive tax dollars?

All I&#039;m saying is that gays and atheist taxpayes have everyright to be outraged by their dollars going to an organization - The Boy Scouts - that discriminates against them.

Put yourself in their shoes.  Wouldn&#039;t you feel the same?  Don&#039;t you alreay about YOUR tax dollars going to things YOU don&#039;t support, like...I dunno, family planning or something?

The boy scout/gay discrimination thing isn&#039;t hard to grasp at all.  Clearly, tax dollars should not go to an organization that discriminates.

How pissed off would blacks be if their tax money went to some publicly funded racist group?

There is a simple solution to this problem.  The Boy Scouts SIMPLY let gays and atheists into their organization.

Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In the case of the public property, the use is to denied to the Boy Scouts. It is not denied to other users.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Help me out here, who else discriminates against gays and atheists that also receive tax dollars?</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying is that gays and atheist taxpayes have everyright to be outraged by their dollars going to an organization &#8211; The Boy Scouts &#8211; that discriminates against them.</p>
<p>Put yourself in their shoes.  Wouldn&#8217;t you feel the same?  Don&#8217;t you alreay about YOUR tax dollars going to things YOU don&#8217;t support, like&#8230;I dunno, family planning or something?</p>
<p>The boy scout/gay discrimination thing isn&#8217;t hard to grasp at all.  Clearly, tax dollars should not go to an organization that discriminates.</p>
<p>How pissed off would blacks be if their tax money went to some publicly funded racist group?</p>
<p>There is a simple solution to this problem.  The Boy Scouts SIMPLY let gays and atheists into their organization.</p>
<p>Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685393</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;SFL:how do you tell a person is gay without asking?&quot;

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&quot;Gay-dar&quot; (think radar) skills is something that develops from living and working around gay people.

I guess if I had to pick ONE identifying factor to find out if someone is gay or not:  are they an unusually good dresser?  Like, are they good with colors, rarely wear ratty or torn things, nice selection of shoes...those bits of information might help you just a bit.

In-the-closet gays, midwestern style, are harder to figure out for obvious reasons.



;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SFL:how do you tell a person is gay without asking?&#8221;</p>
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<p>&#8220;Gay-dar&#8221; (think radar) skills is something that develops from living and working around gay people.</p>
<p>I guess if I had to pick ONE identifying factor to find out if someone is gay or not:  are they an unusually good dresser?  Like, are they good with colors, rarely wear ratty or torn things, nice selection of shoes&#8230;those bits of information might help you just a bit.</p>
<p>In-the-closet gays, midwestern style, are harder to figure out for obvious reasons.</p>
<p> <img src='http://rightvoices.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-685033</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SFL is an idiot.  He can&#039;t grasp basic facts, therefore he is doomed to be wrong and outraged at every turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SFL is an idiot.  He can&#8217;t grasp basic facts, therefore he is doomed to be wrong and outraged at every turn.</p>
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		<title>By: BonBon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BonBon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SFL...how do you tell a person is gay without asking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SFL&#8230;how do you tell a person is gay without asking?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-684993</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fail to grasp the difference. In the case of the public property, the use is to denied to the Boy Scouts. It is not denied to other users. You want that used to enforce mores. It isn&#039;t the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You fail to grasp the difference. In the case of the public property, the use is to denied to the Boy Scouts. It is not denied to other users. You want that used to enforce mores. It isn&#8217;t the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-684992</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;how about the Boy Scouts denied the use of public property, paid for by taxes collected from their families&quot;


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....AND gay people, some with families and many atheists too.  (!)

What about THEM, Robert?  Do you think they are happy about sending their tax dollars to an organization that discriminates against them?

I don&#039;t think so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;how about the Boy Scouts denied the use of public property, paid for by taxes collected from their families&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8230;.AND gay people, some with families and many atheists too.  (!)</p>
<p>What about THEM, Robert?  Do you think they are happy about sending their tax dollars to an organization that discriminates against them?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2007/12/29/oregon-judge-halts-law-granting-same-sex-couples-marriage-rights/comment-page-1/#comment-684991</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And in any case, don&#039;t we live in a country where the majority rules? I thought we did anyway. That, imo, would mean if the voters say no, then it should be no.&quot;


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If that were the case, BonBon, blacks would still be drinking from different drinking fountains and sitting in the backs of busses, down in the south.

Majority rule is OVERRULED when moral issues are at stake.

Injustice is injustice, period.  sexual discrimination is not as evil as slavery of course, but the they are of the same cloth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And in any case, don&#8217;t we live in a country where the majority rules? I thought we did anyway. That, imo, would mean if the voters say no, then it should be no.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>If that were the case, BonBon, blacks would still be drinking from different drinking fountains and sitting in the backs of busses, down in the south.</p>
<p>Majority rule is OVERRULED when moral issues are at stake.</p>
<p>Injustice is injustice, period.  sexual discrimination is not as evil as slavery of course, but the they are of the same cloth.</p>
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