Comments on: WSJ:The Economy Is Fine http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/ in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane. Sun, 08 Aug 2010 14:43:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: BonBon http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688953 BonBon Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:16:39 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688953 Well said Pam. Now I'm going to add my 2 cents worth. FAO is right. Get off your ass. Years ago as a single Mom I not only worked full time but I typed student papers, ran a newspaper route, waitressed on Saturday and even gave blood 4 times a year for $25. I had a Pinto (cheap Ford car) I owned 4 years after payoff and was fortunate enough to have found a program that helped me buy a house (albeit a small one.) I never took government subsidies, never complained when others my age were getting ahead but remained happy with what I did have and strived for more. Life is not a given. You get what you work for and in the U.S. we have plenty of opportunity. All you have to do is quit whining and start working. Well said Pam. Now I’m going to add my 2 cents worth. FAO is right. Get off your ass. Years ago as a single Mom I not only worked full time but I typed student papers, ran a newspaper route, waitressed on Saturday and even gave blood 4 times a year for $25. I had a Pinto (cheap Ford car) I owned 4 years after payoff and was fortunate enough to have found a program that helped me buy a house (albeit a small one.) I never took government subsidies, never complained when others my age were getting ahead but remained happy with what I did have and strived for more.

Life is not a given. You get what you work for and in the U.S. we have plenty of opportunity. All you have to do is quit whining and start working.

]]> By: PCD http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688952 PCD Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:03:22 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688952 I have one wish, that TROLLS like Sue actually have to work for a living, rather than be paid by Soros to troll the internet. I have one wish, that TROLLS like Sue actually have to work for a living, rather than be paid by Soros to troll the internet.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688924 FrmrArtyOffcr Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:34:29 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688924 BTW the best line I've heard on this topic is that the quickest way to get on your feet is to get off your A$$. BTW the best line I’ve heard on this topic is that the quickest way to get on your feet is to get off your A$$.

]]> By: FrmrArtyOffcr http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688923 FrmrArtyOffcr Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:30:11 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688923 I have a unique approach to running short on money. I go out and figure out a way to earn more. Funny how being productive instead of a couch potato will cause that to happen. It takes next to nothing to sell things on Ebay. It costs next to nothing to open a Cafepress.com t-shirt shop. It costs next to nothing to run a website. I do ALL of the above. Some months I spend more time on some than on others, but I KNOW that all of them are there and I use them when necessary. BTW I've been in all of those situations that you describe and then some. Try being the oldest child of a union coal miner who is out on a wild cat strike for the 4th week in 3 months who has to help his parents figure out how to stretch the VERY meager savings they have an indefinite amount of time. My savings account from my allowance and mowing lawns and other odd jobs had to help pay the bills one year. Or worse the same situation only in a severe Ohio winter when the contract has ended and no agreement is in sight with the savings already severely depleted by the numerous wildcat strikes that always seemed to happen during the 12 months prior to the contract expiring. One year the UMWA was out on strike from December until April with no strike benefits, no unemployment benefits, little to no AFDC, and minimal foodstamps. Workers on strike do not qualify for Unemployment benefits. I have a unique approach to running short on money. I go out and figure out a way to earn more. Funny how being productive instead of a couch potato will cause that to happen. It takes next to nothing to sell things on Ebay. It costs next to nothing to open a Cafepress.com t-shirt shop. It costs next to nothing to run a website. I do ALL of the above. Some months I spend more time on some than on others, but I KNOW that all of them are there and I use them when necessary.

BTW I’ve been in all of those situations that you describe and then some. Try being the oldest child of a union coal miner who is out on a wild cat strike for the 4th week in 3 months who has to help his parents figure out how to stretch the VERY meager savings they have an indefinite amount of time. My savings account from my allowance and mowing lawns and other odd jobs had to help pay the bills one year. Or worse the same situation only in a severe Ohio winter when the contract has ended and no agreement is in sight with the savings already severely depleted by the numerous wildcat strikes that always seemed to happen during the 12 months prior to the contract expiring. One year the UMWA was out on strike from December until April with no strike benefits, no unemployment benefits, little to no AFDC, and minimal foodstamps. Workers on strike do not qualify for Unemployment benefits.

]]> By: Pam http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688880 Pam Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:38:22 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688880 Hey Sue, you say cable is a luxury yet you have the internet? Both are extras..they are not essentials to running a household..checking out library books is free. Movie rentals at the library run about $1.00 per movie. If you have no credit cards, consider yourself lucky..if you aren't making the utilities without a credit card payment, can you imagine the hole you would be in if you had that extra payment? Have you taken steps to make sure that you aren't losing heat? Do you turn the thermostat down when you aren't home? Is it down when you go to bed? Little things like that stretch that budget and keep money in your pocket Groceries? Are you taking out essentials or are you taking out the junk? A glass of water is far healthier than pop or juice boxes. Frozen cans of OJ over the carton go just as far..veggies over junk..saves you money and makes for a healthier family. Laundry- Was in cold water.. Can some of the items be air dried rather than put in the dryer? How many unnecessary car rides do you go on? Start paying attention everytime you jump in that car. After getting mad about my response, take the time to review some receipts from the grocery store..check to see if you have drafts in the windows and doors..check to see how much junk food you have in those cupboards..go over your gasoline usage..try turning the heat down during your sleeping hours (put extra blankets on the beds if need be) and turn it down if you are gone during the day...All these things will save you money.. You don't mention what type of work you do..what type of education do you have? Does your employer offer education assistance? If so, do whatever it takes to take advantage of it.. People don't aspire to be poor..try figuring out what you can do to bring yourself up to those rich peoples level..begrudging them their money is a waste of energy. Hey Sue, you say cable is a luxury yet you have the internet? Both are extras..they are not essentials to running a household..checking out library books is free. Movie rentals at the library run about $1.00 per movie.

If you have no credit cards, consider yourself lucky..if you aren’t making the utilities without a credit card payment, can you imagine the hole you would be in if you had that extra payment? Have you taken steps to make sure that you aren’t losing heat? Do you turn the thermostat down when you aren’t home? Is it down when you go to bed? Little things like that stretch that budget and keep money in your pocket

Groceries? Are you taking out essentials or are you taking out the junk? A glass of water is far healthier than pop or juice boxes. Frozen cans of OJ over the carton go just as far..veggies over junk..saves you money and makes for a healthier family.

Laundry- Was in cold water.. Can some of the items be air dried rather than put in the dryer?

How many unnecessary car rides do you go on? Start paying attention everytime you jump in that car.

After getting mad about my response, take the time to review some receipts from the grocery store..check to see if you have drafts in the windows and doors..check to see how much junk food you have in those cupboards..go over your gasoline usage..try turning the heat down during your sleeping hours (put extra blankets on the beds if need be) and turn it down if you are gone during the day…All these things will save you money..

You don’t mention what type of work you do..what type of education do you have?

Does your employer offer education assistance? If so, do whatever it takes to take advantage of it..

People don’t aspire to be poor..try figuring out what you can do to bring yourself up to those rich peoples level..begrudging them their money is a waste of energy.

]]> By: Sue http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688805 Sue Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:41:45 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688805 MY WISH: That all those big money people, including politicians, would go completely broke with no means of income or credit cards and survive. Actually have to go to the grocery store,count what you have in the buggy, then pull a couple items out because not enough money. would have to actually go to the gas pump, get $10.00 at a time, just to make sure you don't go bust before next payday. Make all those payment arangments for Utilities that never get caught up. Yeah, then maybe have the electric turned off for a while. Don't have cableTV, can't afford the luxury. You know feel the worry and pain of the working class. Watch their family go without the things needed for living. And I bet some of you reading this don't know the feeling and think I'm exaggerating. Guess what, everyone I work with and live around is in that boat. Survial not living. (PS. go to MSN right now...I'm going to plan my winter getaway Caribbean Cruise, how about you. yeah right) MY WISH: That all those big money people, including politicians, would go completely broke with no means of income or credit cards and survive. Actually have to go to the grocery store,count what you have in the buggy, then pull a couple items out because not enough money. would have to actually go to the gas pump, get $10.00 at a time, just to make sure you don’t go bust before next payday. Make all those payment arangments for Utilities that never get caught up. Yeah, then maybe have the electric turned off for a while. Don’t have cableTV, can’t afford the luxury. You know feel the worry and pain of the working class. Watch their family go without the things needed for living. And I bet some of you reading this don’t know the feeling and think I’m exaggerating. Guess what, everyone I work with and live around is in that boat. Survial not living. (PS. go to MSN right now…I’m going to plan my winter getaway Caribbean Cruise, how about you. yeah right)

]]> By: Election » Blog Archive » WSJ:The Economy Is Fine http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688596 Election » Blog Archive » WSJ:The Economy Is Fine Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:31:10 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688596 [...] Right Voices wrote an interesting post today on WSJ:The Economy Is FineHere’s a quick excerpt Must read of the day with key points highlighted: Beneath every dollar of counterparty risk, and every swap, derivative, or leveraged loan, is a real economic asset. The only way credit troubles could spread to take down the entire system is if the economy completely fell apart. And that only happens when government policy goes wildly off track. In the Great Depression, the Federal Reserve allowed the money supply to collapse by 25%, which caused a dangerous deflation. In turn, this deflation [...] [...] Right Voices wrote an interesting post today on WSJ:The Economy Is FineHere’s a quick excerpt Must read of the day with key points highlighted: Beneath every dollar of counterparty risk, and every swap, derivative, or leveraged loan, is a real economic asset. The only way credit troubles could spread to take down the entire system is if the economy completely fell apart. And that only happens when government policy goes wildly off track. In the Great Depression, the Federal Reserve allowed the money supply to collapse by 25%, which caused a dangerous deflation. In turn, this deflation [...]

]]> By: San Francisco Liberal http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688593 San Francisco Liberal Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:23:42 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688593 Well, it is a bi-partisan agreement reached by the sec. of tres. and the congress. Watch, Bush will use the SOTU to take credit for the Stimulus Package. He's giving checks to low and middle class Americans...he will take credit for it. Who wouldn't?! Well, it is a bi-partisan agreement reached by the sec. of tres. and the congress.

Watch, Bush will use the SOTU to take credit for the Stimulus Package.

He’s giving checks to low and middle class Americans…he will take credit for it.

Who wouldn’t?!

]]> By: Robert http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688585 Robert Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:13:49 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688585 Not Bush. The korrupt (Democrite-led) Congress. Not Bush. The korrupt (Democrite-led) Congress.

]]> By: San Francisco Liberal http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/comment-page-1/#comment-688578 San Francisco Liberal Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:53:14 +0000 http://rightvoices.com/2008/01/28/wsjthe-economy-is-fine/#comment-688578 What would the incentive be for Bush to push this thing, if he thought the economy was doing fine? Why tarnish his idea/image/legacy of a good economic record with an unnecessary economic public bailout unless he felt it was actually needed? Seriously, there is a reality-disconnect that some conservatives (not bush and congressional republicans on this one issue, though) have with the lower and middle classes. You guys say everything is great, when everyone knows it isn't. What would the incentive be for Bush to push this thing, if he thought the economy was doing fine?

Why tarnish his idea/image/legacy of a good economic record with an unnecessary economic public bailout unless he felt it was actually needed?

Seriously, there is a reality-disconnect that some conservatives (not bush and congressional republicans on this one issue, though) have with the lower and middle classes.

You guys say everything is great, when everyone knows it isn’t.

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