Video Of The Day: Obama Supporter At A Loss To Come Up With Anything Obama Has Done
And this will come back to bite him. Talk is all good and well, but the man has not expirience to run on, nor does he have a grasp of what’s going on. He does have hope though!
Captain Ed has the transcript:
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “You are a big Barack supporter, right, Senator?”
State Sen. Watson: “I am. Yes, I am.”
Matthews: “Well, name some of his legislative accomplishments. No, Senator, I want you to name some of Barack Obama’s legislative accomplishments tonight if you can.”
State Sen. Watson: “Well, you know, what I will talk about is more about what he is offering the American people right now.”
Matthews: “No. No. What has he accomplished, sir? You say you support him. Sir, you have to give me his accomplishments. You’ve supported him for president. You are on national television. Name his legislative accomplishments, Barack Obama, sir.”
State Sen. Watson: “Well, I’m not going to be able to name you specific items of legislative accomplishments.”
Matthews: “Can you name any? Can you name anything he’s accomplished as a Congressman?”
State Sen. Watson: “No, I’m not going to be able to do that tonight.”
Matthews: “Well, that is a problem isn’t it?”
Based on the reaction at Memeorandum, it looks like the left is a tad bit miffed! Just look at HuffPo, why it is all big bad Chris Matthews fault that Watson couldn’t come up with anything..Did Watson think that taking about the word HOPE would somehow cover Matthews aritime?
Kirk Watson (D-TX) learned a lesson in preparedness Tuesday night when he was humiliated on MSNBC. Watson was on to talk about his support of Senator Obama alongside Representative Stephanie Tubbs (D-OH), who backs Senator Clinton. Watson has endorsed Obama and writes glowingly of all the things Obama will do for the country, if elected.
But he was unable to answer Chris Matthews most basic demand: “Name some of his legislative accomplishments… name any…” A fantastically awkward mix of dead air, stuttering, laughter and repetition ensued, as Watson could not name a single one. Matthews laid off part way through, it seems at the demand of his producers, but came back around to lay a final blow at the end.
Watson humiliated himself. And why would a producer tell Matthews to lay off? Isn’t asking hard questions what journalism is all about?
Mark would like to see “Chris challenges the likes of John Kerry or Ted Kennedy — not to mention Caroline Kennedy or Oprah Winfrey — in the same aggressive fashion”
It’s a start and it opened up that proverbial can of worms..
February 20, 2008 - 09:35 AM on February 20th, 2008
Ha ha ha! The Emperor has NO clothes!
February 20, 2008 - 09:43 AM on February 20th, 2008
Exactly!
February 20, 2008 - 10:13 AM on February 20th, 2008
Really the same is said about Hillary. Their supporters validate their support through emotion, not facts and reason.
February 20, 2008 - 10:18 AM on February 20th, 2008
I disagree PCD. Hillary’s supporters can rattle off items that she has worked on. She may have failed at what she worked on, but you would be hardpressed to say that she hasn’t got one or two items to point to.
February 20, 2008 - 10:36 AM on February 20th, 2008
You guys just don’t “get it”.
It’s not about the Past.
It’s about hope for the Future.
We don’t care that Sen. Obama doesn’t have a large legislative list of accomplishments that he can brag about.
What we DO care about is the new Hope we have, and the new found (shudder) Faith we have in the near future.
The tens of thousands of people filling the stadiums just to hear Obama speak understand this very well.
Obama, regardless of past “accomplishments”, gives Americans Hope for the future.
It really is that simple. You either feel it, or you don’t. Looks like more and more people are feeling it. (!)
February 20, 2008 - 10:42 AM on February 20th, 2008
[...] Right Voices wrote an interesting post today on Video Of The Day: Obama Supporter At A Loss To Come Up With Anything Obama Has DoneHere’s a quick excerptVideo Captain Ed has the transcript: MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “You are a big Barack supporter, right, Senator?”State Sen. Watson: “I am. Yes, I am.”Matthews: “Well, name some of his legislative accomplishments. No, Senator, I want you to name some of Barack Obama’s legislative accomplishments tonight if you can. [...]
February 20, 2008 - 10:42 AM on February 20th, 2008
“What we DO care about is the new Hope we have, and the new found (shudder) Faith we have in the near future.”
A statement of faith coming from an aethist.
How ironic.
The point being, just as the Judeo-Christian believe system have nothing concrete to base their beliefs on, neither do you. It is nothing more than a “feeling”.
And now the difference: that may or may not be okay for a religion but putting stock in a person like for poltical purposes that is fool hearty.
The past is speaking- listen to it. You can learn from it, or ignore it to your own demise.
February 20, 2008 - 10:46 AM on February 20th, 2008
5- Jim Jones had people lining up to listen to him speak about hope..
It is you that really doesn’t get it. We aren’t picking a person to give speeches, we are picking a person for the most difficult job in this country. His lack of expirience is pertinent to the conversation..The left just doesn’t seem to get that..
February 20, 2008 - 12:11 PM on February 20th, 2008
If I can prove that I can out-hope anyone else, will you make me President?
February 20, 2008 - 12:18 PM on February 20th, 2008
Cornered On Accomplishments
Former Austin mayor and current Texas State Sen. Kirk Watson, a prominent Barack Obama supporter, is completely stumped when MSNBC’s Chris Matthews asks him to list Sen. Obama’s legislative accomplishments.
Classic! Here is Chris Matthews,…
February 20, 2008 - 12:25 PM on February 20th, 2008
9- You’ve got it buddy!
February 20, 2008 - 02:24 PM on February 20th, 2008
A statement of faith coming from an aethist.
How ironic.
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You’re right Ted, it is a bit strange.
The Cult of Obama (Hell, I admit it) is making SFL and obviously a whole lot of Americans feel very differently about politics and politicians, and in a positive way.
You’re bitter/apathetic/etc, as just about everyone else is about the current and past state of politics. And for good reason!
I suppose that generally speaking, the Obama-Thing creates the possibility of an opening in that state of affairs for something/someone Different…for a new chapter to begin.
It sounds corny as hell, and there’s always the chance that he won’t win, but Ted, without sounding like a preacher…to have that old feeling again about politics, about actually believing that things can be and will be different…
February 20, 2008 - 02:46 PM on February 20th, 2008
“You’re bitter/apathetic/etc”
That not accurate.
I’m not bitter- I’m upset. I am not apethetic, I am passionate and concerned.
I want to do something about it, not allow it to happen. Apathy leads to the complacency I so loathe in Amercians.
You didn’;t address the most important part of my post though:
“And now the difference: that may or may not be okay for a religion but putting stock in a person like for poltical purposes that is fool hearty.
The past is speaking- listen to it. You can learn from it, or ignore it to your own demise.”
February 20, 2008 - 04:12 PM on February 20th, 2008
I’ll tell you when I will have (real) hope. And that’s when somebody who hasn’t been a political hack for 20 yrs (and part of the failed system)with a record of accomplishment in business and personal life steps up and says we’re going to have change, and here’s what we are going to do:
1. Put together a comprehensive energy policy designed to assure energy sources, vastly reduce dependence on foreign oil, and initiate a Manhattan-project-like program to develop fuel cells. I would argue that the #1 priority of the Fed Gov’t should be the energy policy, because it impacts everything else (economy, national security, WOT, empowers those that hates us, etc.)
2. Comprehensive immigration control. Turn off the magnet, begin routinely deporting illegals as they are picked up in normal LE operation, close the border. If we want to have a Guest Worker program, fine, we’ll talk about that after we have done the first part.
3. Health Care reform: Start by getting the frauders and the lawyers out of it. Cap liability awards, make penalties for frauders so Draconian few will want to risk it. Make everybody pay something; no more Welfare Taxis to the ER for colds. Make abuse expensive and inconvenient, rather than the other way around.
That’s for starters. But nobody is saying any of that, and the MSM sure aren’t asking them. When I hear that, from someone with a record of accomplishment to give me the confidence they know how to implement it, then I’ll have hope…REAL hope, not the phony, populist feel good rhetoric hope Obama has generated.
February 20, 2008 - 04:19 PM on February 20th, 2008
“And now the difference: that may or may not be okay for a religion but putting stock in a person like for poltical purposes that is fool hearty.
The past is speaking- listen to it. You can learn from it, or ignore it to your own demise.â€
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He can always be booted out of office at the end of his four year term by the voters, and he can always be removed from office within that time by constitutional means…if that addresses what I think you’re trying to hint at.
I understand what you’re saying…
February 20, 2008 - 04:24 PM on February 20th, 2008
…about being upset and passionate about the direction of your country.
That’s exactly how Obamas millions of supporters feel, too.
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Pam, Jim Jones didn’t fill stadiums across the nation, and wasn’t running for Prez of the US.
BIG differences.
You guys felt “proud” with Reagan as your leader…we would feel just as “proud” to have Obama as our leader.
February 20, 2008 - 04:39 PM on February 20th, 2008
13- How can you honestly tell us you want to do something about it when the only thing you have suggested to do is not vote? You aren’t voting because you don’t want to support the staus quo, or at least, that is what you told us.
Let’s look at today:
“Ameica’s greatness as a nation is all but a memory, and not worth much more than that.”
“I already have FAO. In a shourt eventuality, America will be dead
Hell, I see the continuity of both Republicans and Democrats more clearly then ever. As an example I have now been booted for giving my opinion on as many Republican websites than I have Democrat. Sister Toldjah and Democrat Underground seem to have the same operating policy.
So you see- both parties are trash. Both parties have lead to America’s downfall and it is simply because Americans will not take their country back. Instead, they are lead by these evil people whose concerns are nothing more than power.
It is our fault, and until we can look into the mirror and can admit that then no talk of revolution or anyhting else will change that eventuality.”
You have offered “oh woe is me, I’m chicken little and the sky is falling. I got kicked out of Sister Toldjah, not because of my behavior, but because she doesn’t like my opinion”
Please. Sister doesn’t just boot people out. There’s two sides to that story, and it has nothing to do with us. Don’t trash her here. And let’s talk about how politics have evolved for the better, because believe it or not they have. I post about the Super Delegates to anger SFL and his ilk into demanding that the DNC stop the archaic practice. Our elections have come a long way from the days of yore, but they have even farther to go. We have inter-party fighting(both parties), and across the aisle fighting which is a good thing.
This nation is still great, and I don’t mean was, I mean it is, and if you can’t see it, then I feel sorry for you.
many of us come here to fight it out, but at the end of the day, maybe we learned something, maybe we didn’t, but at least we tried
February 20, 2008 - 04:45 PM on February 20th, 2008
SFL, I know you should feel pride. I think many did when Bubba was POTUS, it just may not have been the euphoria that surrounded Reagan…He was a man that came at the right time in history and he ran the largest state in our Country. I always cringed at the acting joke based on the fact that the man didn’t just walk off the movie set and start a presidential run..JMO..
I told you months ago that Obama was too inexpirienced and should wait until 2012. I still feel that way. I have absolutely no proof, but something tells me that Soros is behind his rise..I know, laugh if you will, but come on SFL, this man got plucked out of thin air..he wasn’t a rock star in Chi town prior to this!
February 20, 2008 - 10:18 PM on February 20th, 2008
Thought you guys would get a kick outta this one…found on Drudge.
“Even blowing his nose, Obama gets applause”
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/even_blowing_his_nose_obama_ge.html
LOL…
February 20, 2008 - 11:29 PM on February 20th, 2008
“How can you honestly tell us you want to do something about it when the only thing you have suggested to do is not vote? You aren’t voting because you don’t want to support the status quo, or at least, that is what you told us.”
I guess you haven’t listened to me the years I have been on here. You don’t remember me saying the for years the best solution was a poly-partisan system? Do you remember me explaining how I think this may come about? One of two things are going to happen: either we will settle for the status quo and die as a nation, or it will change. Honestly, I have so little faith in people that I don’t think it’s going to change. But if it does, here is how and I have posted this before.
Imagine the parties are like a pair of hands. Each hand is pulling on opposite ends of an elastic band- one to the left and the other to the right. Sooner or later, the elastic is going to snap because of the pressure put on it by each hand.
The hands represent the political parties, and the elastic band represent the people. The parties, in their quest for power, are pulling the people of this nation in opposite directions. They will do so until we snap like that elastic band, until we’ve had enough.
That’s when I think we will reform in smaller parties that more closely represent our individual belief systems. These parties will ally when needed, and break those alliances when they do not. The power held currently by the two parties will be diffused though, and that is what is important. Hopefully, we will have learned from the lessons of the past, reforming such institutionally fatal flaws such as McCain/Feingold (election rules and term limits) and the lobby (which should be eliminated as it cause problems such as our current health care situation).
But none of these changes are going to take place if the status quo is going to be supported by people…people like you and me. Terms like “lesser of two evils” are bandied about and it seems to me that many folks don’t realize the weight it carries. Why should we settle for that? Why can’t we have legitimate men and women whose genuine concern is for their country and her citizens instead of their party affiliation? When this country first rebelled, we did so with the words “No taxation without representation!”. I submit to you that we are no longer represented by our politicians as they place power and party above us.
But change, and I mean real change and not the type Obama is talking about, does not come about by supporting the status quo. Real change starts by one person sincerely challenging that status quo, and those who support it. That person might get smacked down, but sometime someone may actually listen to them. And then that person challenges others too. And it spreads and become a real grass roots movement.
And on a side note- I didn’t trash ST. I’ve debated with her on websites for years, and not just hers. I sometimes agreed and other I didn’t. It is her site, and she is free to do as she pleases. The point though was that is the commonality that both she and DU have- they booted me for expressing my beliefs and challenging theirs. Right or wrong is irrelevant- they were both insulted. That isn’t trashing her or DU and there is nothing wrong with the way either of them felt, it is just stating a fact.
“This nation is still great, and I don’t mean was, I mean it is, and if you can’t see it, then I feel sorry for you.”
No, I don’t see it. We are a shadow of our former self, especially that of the Greatest Generation. But both you and SFL have offered me pity, and I will respond the same way: pity my children and my grand children, because those are the ones that will suffer the loss. They will never experience the America of my Grandfather or that of my Father even. That’s my concern, those kids.
February 20, 2008 - 11:34 PM on February 20th, 2008
“I have absolutely no proof, but something tells me that Soros is behind his rise..I know, laugh if you will, but come on SFL, this man got plucked out of thin air..he wasn’t a rock star in Chi town prior to this!”
Yet something else McCain and the Dems/socialist have in common:
John McCain: George Soros’ Useful Idiot? on The Conservative Voice (2008 article)
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30556.html
February 20, 2008 - 11:36 PM on February 20th, 2008
:I have absolutely no proof, but something tells me that Soros is behind his rise..I know, laugh if you will, but come on SFL, this man got plucked out of thin air..he wasn’t a rock star in Chi town prior to this!”
Yet another position that McCain and the social-ist/Dems have in common.
A 2008 article on The Consevative Voice
John McCain: George Soros’ Useful Idiot?
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30556.html
February 21, 2008 - 06:56 AM on February 21st, 2008
20- In order to achive a poly-partisan system people need to do a little more than sit around and cry about how America is gone and whine about how this country is a shell of itself. I do pity you, your children and your grandchildren. America has been constantly evolving for the past 237 years. We still have a two-party system running this nation and a smart person doesn’t hope for change and walk away from what is in the the hopes of what can be. Most of us are living in today’s world, not that of our fathers and grandfathers. There are issues were are fighting for and walking away doesn’t accomplish the goal. Until there are viable options for us to look at third party candidates, most of us are working with what we have. Rather thank sulk, try getting involved in what is going on at the state level..Who is on the horizon in your state? Little things like that matter. Once they hit Washington, they become everyones problem.
February 21, 2008 - 07:05 AM on February 21st, 2008
Right on point Pam. I saw Laura Ingram on O’Reilly a couple weeks ago and she pointed out that conservatives can do alot even if a liberal is voted President. They can get involved in city councils, school board meetings, in their state legislatures, start letter writing campaigns, etc. They can run neighborhood meetings that focus on problems such as gangs, or just any crime. Bottom line is that is where change starts. If you can make enough people aware then systemically you can change a problem.
February 21, 2008 - 08:11 AM on February 21st, 2008
That’s exactly right Bon Bon. the MIGOP has miles to go before I could see anything resembling the correct path, but we are getting there. The citizens are becoming involved and that is key to success. For too long, we have been presented a choice on a ballot..Now we are helping to shape that choice/voice that we see on the ballot…
February 21, 2008 - 08:44 AM on February 21st, 2008
“20- In order to achive a poly-partisan system people need to do a little more than sit around and cry about how America is gone and whine about how this country is a shell of itself.”
No- I didn’t say that at all Pam. The eight paragraphs that I wrote in earnest reponse to your question should not and can not be summarized so blithely.
And from the seemingly intentional mischaractarization of what I posted, I can see this discussion is probably a waste of time for both of us.
But voting for your candidate just “because” is no reason to vote for him. And not voting in no way is “sulking” as you mischaracterized it. You are assuming way too much, like I am not involved with politics on a local level. It is the only level in which it is worth getting involved in because on the national level none are worth getting involved with- not Obama, not Clinton and certainly not McCain. On the national level, I shouldn’t have to settle. I am right here, right now challenging the conventional wisdom- and that is in no way sulking.
As I said before, it is easier for people to demonize those they don’t agree with than to actually discuss and attempt to comprehend the other side. I challenge folks here to cease doing this Stop with the “conservatives are facists” and “liberaism is a mental disease” clap trap. It does nothing constructive. It acheives nothing except cheapen the conversation and yourself. It is doing exactly what those two Obama supporters did do Malkin.
“Most of us are living in today’s world, not that of our fathers and grandfathers.”
No- most if us are SETTLING for “living in todays world”. We look at issues like eminet domain and just shrug our shoulders. We aren’t evolving, we are de-evolving. We need to reverse this trend, but history is against this with us as all civilkization fall at some point. The parralel draw between us and Rome are scary.
“There are issues were are fighting for and walking away doesn’t accomplish the goal”
Who says I am walking away? I’m not, that;s for sure.
“Until there are viable options for us to look at third party candidates, most of us are working with what we have.”
But Pam, this phantom “third party alternative” have been spoken about for 40 years now. That’s never going to happen, ever. As far as working with what you have, it’s like trying to make a 150 story skyscraper with clay- it is impossible to do. What I am saying is go out and find the right material. Find something new.
Last post here for a while, as I have a busy day at work ahead of me. In the meantime, try to take what I said in earnest, without demonizing it. Read the article about McCain from the COnservative Voice that I linked, as t may offer insight as to some of the reasons I so vehemently oppose McCain.
February 21, 2008 - 12:24 PM on February 21st, 2008
I have come to the conclusion after 30 years of analysis that Liberalism is in fact a form of mental illness. How else to explain its illogic, its denial of the basic reality of human nature, its disregard for the lessons of history?
February 21, 2008 - 12:24 PM on February 21st, 2008
One more: Its utter lack of common sense.
February 21, 2008 - 12:33 PM on February 21st, 2008
It’s all theory with liberals Robert. Yes, it would be nice if EVERYONE in the world respected everyone else. Yes, it would be nice if no one ever went hungry and yes peace and love and all the rest are good thoughts. They seem to forget that not everyone thinks the way they do and realists understand the basic premise that freedom is not free and the United States of America is a great country.
February 21, 2008 - 01:58 PM on February 21st, 2008
“I have come to the conclusion after 30 years of analysis that Liberalism is in fact a form of mental illness. How else to explain its illogic, its denial of the basic reality of human nature, its disregard for the lessons of history?”
Amazing- you have just called 88% + of your fellow consevatives mentally ill.
February 21, 2008 - 02:24 PM on February 21st, 2008
Sorry, don’t think so.
February 21, 2008 - 02:26 PM on February 21st, 2008
Ted. Where do you get 88%?
February 21, 2008 - 02:29 PM on February 21st, 2008
“Ted. Where do you get 88%?”
It was the last estimated number of Conservatives in the US that believes in God.
But it’s not logical, so they must be mentally ill, me included.
Becasue logic, as the aethiests believe, must be the be all end all of existance, and there is nothing more than that to life.
February 21, 2008 - 02:36 PM on February 21st, 2008
No, it’s quite logical. Where did the universe come from? We don’t know,nobody does. But there had to some sort of creation, some creator, therefore, some sort of God. We don’t know how or who or what; those are matters of Faith.
But to use that example (a belief in God) to suggest Conservatives are illogical I do not believe is valid.
February 21, 2008 - 02:39 PM on February 21st, 2008
I have neither the time, energy, or interest to type out the core orientation of Conservatism, how its principles are what this Country was founded on and what made it great, etc. We all know what they are and how they make sense, are logical, have been proven to be correct, and take into account reality, not fuzzy-headed idealism with no grounding.
February 21, 2008 - 02:50 PM on February 21st, 2008
“No, it’s quite logical. Where did the universe come from? We don’t know,nobody does. But there had to some sort of creation, some creator, therefore, some sort of God. We don’t know how or who or what; those are matters of Faith.”
LOL..that’s not logical at all Robert. “This, so let’s assune that” is in no way a tennamt of logic.
The definition of faith in this context is the belief is something that you can not prove exists. This isn’t at all logical. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that either, but it don’t try to shroud it in a false veil of logic as it des not do faith justice.
February 21, 2008 - 05:43 PM on February 21st, 2008
The mere existence of the universe is proof it was created. So believing in a creator is quite logical.
I rest my case…
Let’s not get caught up in who/how it was created; or waste any more time arguing matters of faith.
To do so would be argumentive masturbation.
February 21, 2008 - 06:25 PM on February 21st, 2008
“argumentive masturbation”
February 21, 2008 - 07:09 PM on February 21st, 2008
“Where did the universe come from? We don’t know,nobody does. But there had to some sort of creation, some creator, therefore, some sort of God.”
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I’m sorry, but that’s ridiculous.
The universe does not need a god/gods to exist. It could be all due to natural forces…
We just don’t know.
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“Like my old grand daddy used to say, “The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.”
-Four Rooms
February 21, 2008 - 07:14 PM on February 21st, 2008
“The mere existence of the universe is proof it was created. So believing in a creator is quite logical.”
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If that’s so, Robert, then you would have to concede that it is equally logical to assume that the universe Created Itself. Which leaves us all back at square one with the question unanswered.
Two sides to the same argumentative coin.
But yes, in the end, to debate the existance of god is utterly pointless.