[Geeska Afrika caption:] U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region, after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season
Obama went to Kenya to visit his cousin
Barack Obama backs a Taliban Supporter in Kenya
Atlas Shrugs(PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ HIS ENTIRE POST INCLUDING ALL LINKS!):
Obama’s questionable ties with violent supporter, Raila Ondinga, with allegiances to Islamic fundamentalists is a frightening mistake of enormous import.
In my piece Kenya, Islam and Obama Hussein (picked up by many bloggers) Obama’s support of Odinga shows a spectacular lack of judgment or dangerous leanings. It is understandable that Obama Hussein would have Islamic sympathies having been schooled in a Jakarta madrassa, both father and stepfather are Muslim and Sarah Hussein Obama of Kenya, Barack Obama’s stepgrandmother, is a lifelong Muslim. “I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” she says. But even so, even Obama can see the terrible turn societies take when they embrace sharia/Islamic law.
H/T to Sweetness and Light.
A Spry Farrakhan Sings Obama’s Praises
Farrakhan compared Obama to the religion’s founder, Fard Muhammad, who also had a white mother and black father.
“A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,” he told the crowd of mostly followers. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.”
More blog reacts at memeorandum
Jackie, from what you’ve posted about being a second year law student, and your generation soon going out into the world, I gather that you are rather young. You’re a kid. Most of what you know is what the educational system has filled your head with. You have very little in the way of life experiences to be shooting your mouth off about things to people here who know things you aren’t even aware of (actually, you may have more real-life experience than Obama has executive experience).
So your lectures, filled with rhetoric, are laughable. You are the perfect Obama supporter: Filled with idealism and hope and the certainty that you know better than any generation that has gone before you.
I am here to tell you that you don’t, and just like I tell my sons, someday you’ll understand what that means. When you are much older, much wiser, much more traveled and experienced. And when you reach that point you’ll perhaps look back on your Obamamania and wonder how you could have been so foolish. Because that’s what it really is.
Few of us here if any are McCainiacs. I support McCain only because Obama is unfit to be POTUS, on so many levels. And once again we are faced with the choice of two weak candidates, imo.
To use one of your own phrases: grow up! Grow up, Jackie, then you’ll understand. Hopefully…
I’ll tell you what I think an American is: Someone who supports and promotes traditional American values and ideals. Someone who takes seriously the Pledge of Allegiance, and who accepts and fulfills their sworn oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. An American knows that America is the greatest nation in the history of earth, that America has done more good for more people than any other nation in history, and that America is the greatest hope for freedom and liberty on earth. Americans know this, and regardless of their origin, understand it, believe it, and will serve to protect and defend it.
THAT’s what an American is, imo…a real American.
Hey La Mentalita: Does that name mean “mentally ill”? If so, it’s perfect for you!
Robert, I may be younger than you, but Im not a kid. Im 26 years old, and though I have not “been out there in the real world”, I certainly havent had life handed to me on a platter either. What I do know is that Im living life right now paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to school, thankful that the govt is partially paying for it, but without a job and knowing full well Ill have to pay it all back one day. I pay rent and living expenses used from money I have saved in the two years i took off after college before coming here. I do not get help from mommy and daddy. I dont have kids or family that is dependent on me, but I work my ass off just as much as the next guy out there. So dont write off what i say just because I was born in the 80s. Im actually not an idealist, Im a realist. But Im a hopeful realist, and my one hope is that Obama’s presidency will put the US in a position where we one day wont have to worry about being attacked by terrorists or fighting wars that we dont belong in. I do NOT want to raise my kids 10 yrs from now in WW3, and im sure you dont want to see your sons or future grandsons going off to fight more wars. But I truly feel like this is the direction we are heading in if we dont do something to change.
and ps- i completely agree with your definition of what it is to be American. What Id like to know is why you think Obama does not fit that definition.
Yes the 14th Amendment clearly defines the meaning of citizenship. Or, as you asked/stated: “ps- if you can find in the Constitution where it spells out the ‘definition of an American citizen’ please point it out, bc maybe you know something that I don’t. =)”
Citizens of the United States
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/01.html#1
yes but again, thats not what I meant when I criticized the use of the term ‘un American’. The way its used in this blog has nothing to do with citizenship as defined by the Const., it has to do with political issues, beliefs and positions. So I really dont see why you keep insisting on this, Pam. Im not arguing that Obama is an American citizen, he clearly is. Im arguing that he is not “un American”, as so many claim he is. My question was, what does THAT mean to you? Why is Obama un American?
No, actually, Obama is not clearly and American citizen and there is a case pending to tell us the answer to that question.
Why is Obama un-American?
Rooting for defeat in the GWOT
His socialistic background and his quest to turn the USA into a socialistic state(redistribution of wealth)..that is a beginning, so you want more?..
Pam.. even for you this is a bit much.
Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., a black Kenyan of Nyang’oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a white American from Wichita, Kansas.
For the love of Pete this site reads like subliminist racist central.
Stop promoting lies since your candidate and his Annie Oakley are clearly NOT going to win in November.
GET OVER IT!
I am well aware of who his parents are, and I saw a copy of a computer generated version of his BC..His sister has given different accounts of his birth.
We also know that he was adopted by his step-father, which ads to the problem.
We wouldn’t be talking about it if he would just release the actual records.
Gee, no homophobic charge..I am surprised!
Is your racist charge supposed to give us pause? The word is so over-used that it has lost it’s meaning..
Here’s some news on Republicon vote fraud:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/republican-voter-registration-chief-arrested-fraud-california/
Jackie, fair enough, you are not a kid. And I respect anyone for working hard to pay their way through school. I did it at at age 32; I worked three part time jobs to pay for it.
Here’s what I don’t like about Obama and his agenda as concisely as I can list it:
1. I just don’t trust him. He could NEVER get a TS security clearance if he applied for one. How can we possibly trust him with our most vital national security secrets? Why does he bob and weave, dodge, and hide his background, only revealing what he wants us to see but denying or burying anything else? You are old enough to understand that the way to judge a person’s character if you don’t know them well is not by their words, but by their deeds (including associations). Obama hangs with some of the most vile vermin in our society. Does that not trouble you?
2. While the current financial crisis is a big problem, and a rather unique one due to the housing meltdown and subprime debacle, there are fundamental, core issues that are being temporarily forgotten but have not gone away. The most fundamental of those is energy. Obama mouths all the rhetoric about clean renewable energy and alternates and all this wonderful stuff that doesn’t exist in the scale needed to make a difference. As I have posted volumes about here, ANY national energy plan that does not include 80% Nuclear generated power as its core is unworkable, stupid, and unrealistic. Obama has recently began mouthing the word nuclear, as has Nancy Pelosi (because of extreme pressure), but they don’t mean it. Obama should be smart enough to know better, but he is hopelessly entwined in the idiotic democrat leadership refusal to be realistic that has paralyzed this nation’s ability to move forward while bankrupting us.
I’d much rather have Sarah Palin write an energy plan than either Obama or McCain, frankly. She gets it, she understands what we need to do. None of the rest will accept it fully.
3. Taxes. One of the few things that has kept this country above water and able to grow the economy despite a recession starting in 2000, 9/11, and the war have been the tax cuts. It is a truth that is simple, elegant, and has been proven over and over again: You tax business too much, and it diminishes, It either moves away or shuts down. And the “rich” are already paying their fair share of taxes, which is the vast majority of the income tax. Obama taps into the politics of class envy and jealousy with his tax the rich crap. Kalifornia is a near textbook example of a once-great state run by a Democrat-controlled legislature for 40 years. They are doing their best to kill the Golden goose.
4. Obama is not only a Socialist, he is a Marxist. I simply cannot stand the idea of a Socialist/Marxist in the White House; that is patently un-American. The Founding Fathers will spin in their graves. Do a little research on Obama. You won’t get it from the MSM, but Pam has posted much of it here and there are plenty of references to back it up. Obama is a product of the radical marxist Saul Alinsky. Another reason not to trust Obama.
And btw, Sarah Palin rocks! Setting women’s efforts back? Huh? How about the blatant sexism of all the intellectual Liberals who have tried to trivialize her by making stupid remarks like Alec Baldwin on SNL “You’re way hotter in person”, calling her a MILF, and photoshopping her head onto bikini models. What they are doing is part of their belittling and trivializing strategy: belittle her accomplishments, make up lies and distortions about her record, then trivialize her by implying the reason why people like her is she’s physically attractive. I’m offended by that! And you should be too if you care at all about women’s rights and future! And yet all this is being done by the self-anointed tolerance, women’s rights champions crowd. You see the utter, glaring, naked hypocrisy? See it?
And anyway, we can assume it’s false anyway because it reported by Fox news and we have been told they are wrong.
Now you want to see some real fraud, look at the cases of organized, massive fraud in the big cities perpetrated by the Democrites with the help of their Union goons.
C’mon Robert, you can’t tell me that if the same thing was reported about the democrats you wouldn’t be insisting that it’s a conspiracy.
One guy? No, I would hardly notice it. There are so many large-scale examples of Democrite voter fraud one guy is in the noise level.
Actually Roberto- that’s not what it means. But I wouldn’t expect any more from you considering I bet I could guess your type. For you to see a foreign language and try to actually discern its meaning would mean to take yourself out of your “Solely American” mentality and try to look at the world from a global perspective, which you conservative uber patriotic types always seem to find so hard to do. Your arguments about patriotism are laughable- and for you to imply that Barack Obama and his supporters are not “Real Americans” displays how real and potent your ignorance is.
And the things you outlined about Barack Obama regarding his past associations. I mean, c’mon, you sound like McCain who seems to think that if he repeats a lie (that’s been proven a lie numerous times) enough times, it’s eventually going to take in the minds of the people. It’s frankly insulting and you are yourself insulting people’s intelligence by STILL bringing up these “associations” that have been explained 100x’s over now. Maybe if you took your head out of your ass you wouldn’t still be talking about moot points.
Then you talk about character about being not about what one says but about what one does. THIS, “my friend”, makes me laugh hysterically.
Someone who exhibits the character that McCain does is not someone who should be considered for the position of President of the United States in the 21st Century. It’s troubling-unless, of course, you approve of racism, sexism, and the willingness to constantly make bad jokes to be inherent in the leader of your country.
This, Roberto, is in reply to your stupid list of 10 above about Obama.
10 Reasons why it’s scary that McCain is being seriously considered for America’s Presidency in the 21st Century:
1. He jokes about Bombing Iran. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p05FFS3IenM
Is it funny, really, to joke around about bombing another country?
2. When McCain is given the chance to explain, he defends his horrific joke by telling those who didn’t approve of it to “get a life”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2v8cuQTVO8&feature=related
3. He insulted an entire continent of people by using the word “Gookâ€. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml%29
McCain said in 2000: “I hate the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live”.
The exact etymology of the world “Gook”is unknown, but in general it is a racial slur referring to Asians. Now, we can all sympathize with him for having been a Vietnam POW but couldn’t he just say he hates his captors and will for as long as he lives rather than using a racial slur to insult a whole race, or rather, continent, of people?
4. McCain doesn’t acknowledge when his close followers or supporters say racist things. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZEJiu03MU
“This racial insensitivity suggests that there is something disturbing is going on here… if there was no specific conscious intent to do harm that means this grows out of a pattern of habit- that it’s just a natural reflex- and that one interchangeable, African American, multi-racial person is as good as the other- or they’re indistinguishable – and I think at that level it’s pretty problematic.”
5. McCain exhibits a sexist (and disgusting) sense of humor by joking around about women enjoying being raped. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPnfnB7fRek
6. McCain exhibits a sexist (and mean) sense of humor by making fun of Chelsea Clinton and Janet Reno: http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000930.htm and http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html
7. McCain doesn’t seem to have the values he says he does:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
8. McCain’s political campaign ads say a lot about him. Whether or not it be him accusing Obama of wanting to give kindergarteners sex education or comparing him to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears- (“It’s so easy to see the ad for what it is and read “black man, promiscuous young white women, wink wink.”- Sherman Yellen) -through these ads we can see McCain’s desperate attempts to slander Obama’s image with the American people.
9. McCain the “Maverick”sells out on points that should be important to him in order to gain footing with the Republican Party. I.E. Voting for torture even though he was. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/us/politics/17torture.html
10. People who have seen this article argue it’s not the most credible news source, including me, but after reading the above aren’t the things in this article hard not to believe?
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/10086
“It’s frankly insulting and you are yourself insulting people’s intelligence by STILL bringing up these “associations”that have been explained 100x’s over now. Maybe if you took your head out of your ass you wouldn’t still be talking about moot points.”
No, they haven’t been explained over and over. They are not moot. They are very real, very timely, and very troubling. And you are a very poor advocate for Osama bin Obama because judging by what you posted I would say you are full of excrement.
Roberto- I’m so sorry but I’m confused- not knowing/understanding who Osama Bin Obama is makes me unable to comment there.
Your views on Sarah Palin and your willingness to combat her ways by talking about how the liberal media is being sexist blatantly avoid the issue here. Sarah Palin being one 72 year old’s heartbeat away from the highest position in the world is, quite frankly, scary for women.
Here is exactly how the McCain/Palin ticket would set back women’s rights:
-McCain voted against The Equal Pay Bill for Women. He said women ‘need education and training’ instead. [Source: aflcio.org; H.R. 2831,Vote 110, 4/23/08; Associated Press, 4/28/08]
-Palin wants to outlaw abortion, including for victims of rape or incest.
-McCain voted against the family and medical leave act, making it hard for women and men to take time from work to care for loved ones.[Source: aflcio.org S.Amdt. 16, S. 5, Vote 7, 2/4/93; H.R. 1, Vote 11, 2/4/93]
-Palin wants to teach creationism in the schools, making it harder for our teachers to compete with up-and-coming nations in science education.
-McCain opposed spending to prevent unintended and teen pregnancies.
-Palin does not believe that humans contribute to global warming and she wants to take the polar bear off of the endangered species list so she can drill for oil in Alaska.
-McCain opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and scientifically based.
-McCain’s health care plan will require that benefits be taxed, the first time this would ever happen in America’s history. This will make it next to impossible to pay high medical bills with insurance benefits.
-During Palin’s time as mayor, Wasilla was the only town in Alaska to charge rape victims for rape kits essential to finding their assailants.
Ok Roberto- if the Points are not moot please let me know why you do not trust Barack Obama (this is his name and as your potential future president I’d think you’d, at your “age and wisdom”, would at least have a little respect) and by whom he is “guilty by association?”
I’ve already posted plenty about why I don’t trust Obama. And respect is earned.
What, do you change your screenname every few hours?
To the Obamiacs, apparently of which you are one, the appropriate title might be:
The Most Exalted Highest Excellency Messiah and Savior Barack Obama!
You list all these things that McCain voted against. Without an analysis, without looking into the details of the bills, that is useless. It’s like the push polls that are worded to generate the desired outcome. When the intent of the respondent is quite different.
And if you want to help education, don’t worry about Palin or creationism. remove the educrat unions. Anything less won’t fundamentally change anything. Only then will you see us hope to compete with other Nations in science.
Is Obama your Messiah? Is he a Jesus substitute for you? Will he fix all the problems? Will he perform miracles?
If R.V. really wants McCain over Obama, that’s great. What you (and McCain) need to do is focus on how his policies are going to get us out the mess that we’re in. Trying to scare people by showing Obama in turbans or making fun of his name isn’t working. His poll numbers go up with every one of these silly personal attacks.
“”It’s frankly insulting and you are yourself insulting people’s intelligence by STILL bringing up these “associations”that have been explained 100x’s over now.”
“…Barack Obama (this is his name and as your potential future president I’d think you’d, at your “age and wisdomâ€, would at least have a little respect)…”
Vhen ve are in control, as ve vill be, you vill be reported to ze authorities for your transgression, Herr Robert! Now, sign ze papers!
Hey, my advice is to stay positive. Karl Rove politics don’t seem to be working. Of course, you’re going to have to pretend that McCain is actually a conservative.
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“Trying to scare people by showing Obama in turbans or making fun of his name isn’t working. His poll numbers go up with every one of these silly personal attacks.”
If that’s the case, then you guys should welcome my suggestion of the name “Barack Saddam Hussein Osama bin Obama”! You can use it, you have my permission! Post it everywhere! Obama’s numbers will shoot up and it will be a historic landslide! Go for it! Just DO it!
Hey AKD, did you happen to notice that this post is from February 24, 2008?
No his associations have not been explained truthfully…Example..Ayers and he didn’t really know each other too well is what the One claimed…Well Obama knew him well enough to write a review on Ayers book, and the published review was available when his aides tried to deny it..Not Only Did Obama and Ayers (and Communist Party Leader Mike Klonsky) Work in the Same Office — It Was a Small Office..Michelle Obama and Bernardine Dohrn worked at the same law firm, then Michelle and Bill worked at the same school..and then there is the Annenberg portion of the story
Robert, in response to your points on why you think Obama is un American:
1) Obama dodges and avoids talking about things regarding his personal life simply bc they are non issues. These things are not what should be discussed/argued in the election. I call them distractors, bc they successfully distract the public from the stuff we should really be concerned with. Instead we are hearing about Obama’s childhood and how much Cindy McCain spends on her wardrobe. Who cares?! Also, just bc Obama wants to ‘talk’ to our enemies (Castro, Chavez) and also Israel/Palestine (an ally) does not mean he is un American. He wants to do exactly what our enemies DONT want us to do, bc it delegitimizes their cause. They dont want us to talk, they want us to spend billions MORE dollars and hundreds more American lives to fight in useless wars. Im sure thats why Al Quada endorsed Bush’s campaign, and the same will go for McCain. Mccain is the perfect candidate for someone who will react impulsively: he suffers majorly from PTS, has anger management issues and is not even willing to talk to the president of Spain…WHO’S AN ALLY! its that sort of attitude that encourages others to hate and resent us. that’s exactly what we dont want…hence his ‘Change’ theme. thats what change means to me.
2) I agree alot with some of Palin’s views on energy. Some of them are great. However, all that goes down the drain when considering her lack of basic knowledge in other areas. So, her energy plan is in itself is just not enough to get my vote.
3) Obama taps into the “tax the rich” crap simply bc its the cold hard reality of capitalism as we see it today in this country. The poor get poorer, the rich are unaffected, and the middle class continues to get screwed. For ex, days after the bailout there were news articles about former CEOs and CFOs of these former financial institutions vacationing at spas that im sure were very pricey. How does it make the rich look when they are doing that and the rest of us are worried about our jobs, if we will get approved for loans, how we will pay our mortgages, etc? its a perfect example of what happens when there is not enough govt regulation, and who ultimately gets screwed in the end? You and me! bc we’re going to be paying that $700B in tax dollars.
4) Yes, socialism/marxism are patently un-American, but what im confused about is what particularly about Obama makes him any more socialist/marxist than any prior Democratic candidate or president? You can even pick the worst Democratic president in history, and I dont think ppl would label them Marxist or Socialist. Democrats want more govt, thats clear cut. But to say Obama is socialist/marxist and put him up there with figures like castro, chavez, ortega and even hitler is just absurd.
Oh yes Pam… you’re right! Because Obama knew Bill Ayers and worked on the same committee at one point, and because Bill contributed $200 to a campaign of his, that means Obama’s guilty by association. That’s like saying if you yourself were running for office and an ex-convict gave money you’d be guilty as well- or now that Ayers is a Professor at a prominent school his employers as well as his students who are obviously associated with him must not be trusted!
But you’re completely right- although Obama was 8 when Bill was an active radical terrorist- Obama, when in office, plans to execute the same things Bill did in the 60′s. You all sound so ridiculous it’s unbelievable.
Good form, Jackie, I agree 100% with you. Finally, some sense in this blog.
Wow Jackie,
You can thank Obama and his party for the lack of regulation and the financial mess we are in..
How can you say it is absurd to call Obama a marxist/socialist when you have just said that:
“Obama dodges and avoids talking about things regarding his personal life simply bc they are non issues. These things are not what should be discussed/argued in the election. I call them distractors, bc they successfully distract the public from the stuff we should really be concerned with.”
His Socialist background is very relevant to the election. He is seeking the highest office in the land…you can try and sweep it under the rug, but it very much matters. His friendships are very troubling to say the least, but the speed at which he throws them under his bus is very telling.
You and your socialst/marxist BS crack me up. Just because Obama refuses to continue the tax cuts that Bush started and McCain wants to continue does not make him a socialist.
The attempts to call the democratic presidential candidate “Robin Hood Obama” aren’t few- however, after 8 years of Bush policies that consequentially seem to make the rich get richer while the poor get poorer, I think we could stand to see a little “change”in financial policies. I personally don’t think that in the economic situation we’re in right now we can say that these policies have been working for those who are “not richâ€, and these are policies that McCain would like to continue. Fantastic!
“A 2002 study released today by Citizens for Tax Justice and the Children’s Defense Fund reveals for the first time who stands to benefit from the 2001-enacted Bush tax cuts in each year from 2001 through 2010. Among the key findings:
-Over the ten-year period, the richest Americans”the best-off one percent”are slated to receive tax cuts totaling almost half a trillion dollars. The $477 billion in tax breaks the Bush administration has targeted to this elite group will average $342,000 each over the decade.
-By 2010, when (and if) the Bush tax reductions are fully in place, an astonishing 52 percent of the total tax cuts will go to the richest one percent”whose average 2010 income will be $1.5 million. Their tax-cut windfall in that year alone will average $85,000 each. Put another way, of the estimated $234 billion in tax cuts scheduled for the year 2010, $121 billion will go just 1.4 million taxpayers.”
Yeah, that seems fair. And I’m also so sick of hearing from older people that having tax cuts is the answer- As if the trickle-down theory actually works. I thought that you were supposed to get MORE intelligent and gain MORE wisdom as the years progressed? I guess when you start off with none it’s not your fault if your percentage of common sense has progressed but is still quite low…
Le Mentalita`
The Bush tax cuts did not burden the poor
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/23631.html
The Obama and McCain Tax Plans: How Do They Compare?
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Taxes/cda08-09.cfm
McCain voted against the Equal Pay Bill for Women on 4/23/08? That day there was a Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Proceed to Consider H.R. 2831 )
Vote Number: 110
McCain did not vote..but the AFL-CIO wouldn’t want you to know that
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00110
As to the bill itself,it is ridiculous bill. Women could go back 50 years and sue? Please! How about they change the statute of limitations from 6 months to between 3-10 years? I do believe had it is written properly, you would see the bill passed.
McCain voted for the FMLA (wow looks like the AFL-CIO isn’t working for you!)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:h.r.00001:
Yes McCain said he hates gooks..do you know any of the history of that comment, or the history that followed it? I am guessing not.
Yes, McCain and his Cindy got married a month after his divorce was final..has he denied this? Which one of them was in worse physical shape? It seems to me that both had horrendous medical conditions. Did Carol McCain deny this? You do know that they have a good relationship don’t you?
McCain supporters say racist things..really/ Is it worse than the acts of violence by Obama supporters or the sexist things said about Palin?
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“1) Obama dodges and avoids talking about things regarding his personal life simply bc they are non issues.”
They are not non-issues. Obama came up literally out of nowhere as a candidate and was a nationally unknown quantity. It is quite appropriate to ask who this man is because again, actions are a better indicator of character than words. His background is a very legitimate question.
“Also, just bc Obama wants to ‘talk’ to our enemies (Castro, Chavez) and also Israel/Palestine (an ally) does not mean he is un American.”
That’s a straw man. Nobody here said “just because he wants to “talk’ to out enemies” he is un-American.
“Im sure thats why Al Quada endorsed Bush’s campaign, and the same will go for McCain.”
Are you joking? Al Qaeda and Achmadinejhad plus Chavez and Castro have already publicly stated their hopes that Obama wins.
“So, her (Palin’s) energy plan is in itself is just not enough to get my vote.”
The most fundamental, the most basic, the most empirical issue to the future of this country is energy. Both the economy and the security; energy is the most fundamental issue. So if Palin brings to the table knowledge and a workable energy plan, she will have well earned her position even if she did nothing else. Obama is a kindergartner compared to Palin on this issue.
“The poor get poorer, the rich are unaffected, and the middle class continues to get screwed.”
I’m against CEOs looting companies and I think there needs to be more oversight of the securities area, plus banking. I’d like to see a lot of vermin hanged for what they have done. But who is screwing the middle class day after day, over and over, in ways that are very real and personal? The Government. By not having a real, workable, intelligent energy plan in place 36 years after the first Arab oil boycott and ensuing crisis, and the now the Pelosi refusal to address the issue, the people are screwed every day bigtime. oh the one thing they have done is subsidize and mandate Ethanol (because they were bought and paid for by the Ethanol lobby). Which caused food prices to rise, double-screwing the people. And the State Gov’t? In Kalifornia, it feels like the Gov’t has become the enemy of the people. The Bureacrats sit around enacting regulations, many of which are stupid, that raise the cost of living, working, and doing business in the state with little more results than taking more of your money to support an ever-increasing bureacracy. If you had an hour to listen I could give you many concrete examples. What we need overall, on all levels is net LESS Gov’t. Obama and the Socialists/Democrites promise more Gov’t.
“what particularly about Obama makes him any more socialist/marxist than any prior Democratic candidate or president?”
Obama is a disciple, student, and product of the Saul Alinsky philosophy and theory of Marxism. Do some research. And this is where his past and present associations come into play. They show this quite clearly. Do some research! You won’t find the links on the Obama website, and the MSM sure won’t talk about it. But the truth is out there.
The old American Communist party of the 1960s is gone. It has infiltrated into the Democrat party, and today’s Democrat party is effectively the American Communist party.
“You and your socialst/marxist BS crack me up. Just because Obama refuses to continue the tax cuts that Bush started and McCain wants to continue does not make him a socialist.”
Such a laughable straw man. You’ll have to do much better to engage on this site.
“A 2002 study released today by Citizens for Tax Justice and the Children’s Defense Fund reveals for the first time who stands to benefit from the 2001-enacted Bush tax cuts in each year from 2001 through 2010. Among the key findings:
-Over the ten-year period, the richest Americans”the best-off one percent”are slated to receive tax cuts totaling almost half a trillion dollars.”
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Yep, Pam, as you took the time to research and point out in your above post, just saying ‘McCain voted against ____” really falls apart when you look into what that legislation actually was all about.
So the fact remains that the best indications of someone’s character, the best indicator of who they are as a person and an American, are what their actions have been, their background, and yes, their associations.
Obama FAILS that standard miserably.
Obama’s policies will lead to three things:
HIGHER TAXES
HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT as companies reduce expenses to try and pay those taxes
HIGHER PRICES as companies who have cut payroll as far as possible, begin raising prices to make up the difference.
The secondary results will include:
HIGHER INTEREST RATES as the Federal Reserve moves to try and control inflation.
MORE FORECLOSURES as homeowners lose their homes after losing their jobs
MORE BANKRUPTCIES as unemployed people become unable to pay their bills
MORE HOMELESSNESS as more unemployed people become unable to even rent an apartment
MORE CRIME as peopler become more desperate to feed their families after losing their jobs.
MORE SUICIDES and/or MURDER/SUICIDES as people who have lost their jobs become despondent at not being able to replace them
LOWER WAGES and BENEFITS as employers caught in the cash crunch and with a surplus of available labor will be able to offer less and demand more from desperate job seekers.
These are not conjecture. These are the natural and historical outcome of the marxist/socialist economic theories that Obama espouses. While his theories might not result in massive upheaval in lifestyle in a third world country, they will so degrade the lifestyle of the average American that violent uprisings could result. Odds of a violent uprising would increase the longer that the depression resulting from his policies lasts and deepens. If Mexicans in Oaxaca would riot over the price of tortillas going up, what do you think could happen here?
Oh my god!
You people here are the reason for the whole world thinking of the USA as a country of idiots and fools.
Freedom of speech is great, but the internet made it way too easy for those without a reasoned opinion to proclaim it publicly.
At least a few of you seem to use their brain to think about what absurdities the media circulates these days.
Hey Roberto and Pam:
IN YOUR FACE!
hahahahha
I wonder if America’s enemies are dancing with joy, firing their AK47s into the air, at the news from the election.