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	<title>Comments on: Calling All Environmentalists! Save the Desert!</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721734</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s probably just doing his part to try to restore balance. Good for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s probably just doing his part to try to restore balance. Good for him!</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721091</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;d guess there are actually too many of them...&quot;

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Yes, but fear not.

My very conservative brother is a professor of film at a college near Burbank...and he goes out of his way to show off his political beliefs to students in his class. (!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d guess there are actually too many of them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Yes, but fear not.</p>
<p>My very conservative brother is a professor of film at a college near Burbank&#8230;and he goes out of his way to show off his political beliefs to students in his class. (!)</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721090</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fortunately I can request a different teacher in our system, and have done so. Those requests have been honored, and I temper my children&#039;s indoctrination with facts as we often have discussions on politics and religion.&quot;

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Hmmm...sounds like you are depriving your child of diverse points of view; when you request a different teacher along political lines.

Your kid has a whole lifetime to hear your point of view, why not let him/her figure things out on their own?  If you raised them right, you should be able to trust their judgement on what they hear...right?

Sure would make for more interesting dinner discussions, with you trying to debate and/or shoot down what some &quot;bearded, liberal&quot; teacher told your kid that day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fortunately I can request a different teacher in our system, and have done so. Those requests have been honored, and I temper my children&#8217;s indoctrination with facts as we often have discussions on politics and religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;sounds like you are depriving your child of diverse points of view; when you request a different teacher along political lines.</p>
<p>Your kid has a whole lifetime to hear your point of view, why not let him/her figure things out on their own?  If you raised them right, you should be able to trust their judgement on what they hear&#8230;right?</p>
<p>Sure would make for more interesting dinner discussions, with you trying to debate and/or shoot down what some &#8220;bearded, liberal&#8221; teacher told your kid that day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721085</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I sometimes kid around with my Conservative family and say; &quot;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacherâ€&quot;

I&#039;d guess there are actually too many of them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I sometimes kid around with my Conservative family and say; &#8220;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacherâ€&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d guess there are actually too many of them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TedintheShed</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721081</link>
		<dc:creator>TedintheShed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacher&quot;

Fortunately I can request a different teacher in our system, and have done so. Those requests have been honored, and I temper my children&#039;s indoctrination with facts as we often have discussions on politics and religion.

I don&#039;t believe in revisionist history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacher&#8221;</p>
<p>Fortunately I can request a different teacher in our system, and have done so. Those requests have been honored, and I temper my children&#8217;s indoctrination with facts as we often have discussions on politics and religion.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in revisionist history.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721080</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a history major, with a focus on education.  This semester I&#039;m taking World History pre-hist to 1500, American History colonial to reconstruction, American Politics with a focus on the African American experience (robert and pam you guys would love to hate my prof in that one!) and...fucking human biology.

I hate bio.  Interesting and all that, but...has some pretty rough tests.  ugh.

Once this is done, I can start working on my teaching credential program.

I sometimes kid around with my Conservative family and say; &quot;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacher&quot;

they cringe. 

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a history major, with a focus on education.  This semester I&#8217;m taking World History pre-hist to 1500, American History colonial to reconstruction, American Politics with a focus on the African American experience (robert and pam you guys would love to hate my prof in that one!) and&#8230;fucking human biology.</p>
<p>I hate bio.  Interesting and all that, but&#8230;has some pretty rough tests.  ugh.</p>
<p>Once this is done, I can start working on my teaching credential program.</p>
<p>I sometimes kid around with my Conservative family and say; &#8220;every highschool needs a bearded, liberal history teacher&#8221;</p>
<p>they cringe. </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721056</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SFL I see what you are saying and agree with some of what you say. But I choked on this:

&quot;Maybe leave signs asking to respect the land.&quot;

Was that supposed to be funny? Do you think for one minute, even if the illegals understood the message, they would care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SFL I see what you are saying and agree with some of what you say. But I choked on this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe leave signs asking to respect the land.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was that supposed to be funny? Do you think for one minute, even if the illegals understood the message, they would care?</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721053</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey SFL, we missed you :)

What classes are you taking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SFL, we missed you <img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_smiley.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;' /></p>
<p>What classes are you taking?</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721052</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is also, unfortunately, a lot of environmental damage in wilderness areas that have &quot;illegals&quot; working large marijuana farms.  I think, Kings Canyon/Sequoia National Park has a large problem with that.

They often litter, ruin the soil, and divert water resources.

I&#039;d bust `em and book them on environmental damage charges.

...and take the pot.



;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also, unfortunately, a lot of environmental damage in wilderness areas that have &#8220;illegals&#8221; working large marijuana farms.  I think, Kings Canyon/Sequoia National Park has a large problem with that.</p>
<p>They often litter, ruin the soil, and divert water resources.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bust `em and book them on environmental damage charges.</p>
<p>&#8230;and take the pot.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco Liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/04/15/calling-all-environmentalists-save-the-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-721051</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...been busy with school and, quite frankly, have been getting a little burned out on the whole politics thing.  I haven&#039;t even watched the news in weeks.

That said, I&#039;ll take the bait on this one...

Of course it&#039;s sad and shitty that migrant workers crossing into the US through these wild areas often leave litter behind.

Until we come up with a plan that allows migrant workers to cross into the US safely and through regulated entry points, without penalizing them for trying to make their lives better for themselves and their children, then we&#039;re going to have to deal with the kinds of mess in your topic.  This kind of environmental damage is a symptom of an ailing immigration policy.

People shouldn&#039;t be crossing long distances through deserts on foot anyways, unless you are prepared, experienced and treat the land with respect.

This won&#039;t change until we change the overall situation.

Short term solutions?  There should be local environmental advocacy groups that should take it upon themselves to clean up their neck of the woods.

If I were a local in a problem area, I&#039;d get off my ass and clean that shit up.  

And feel good about doing it, too.  

Maybe leave signs asking to respect the land.  Provide cat holes to poop in, and maybe even a garbage container or two if possible.  Maybe dig a garabge pit, and mark it well.

I&#039;d also leave caches of water and supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;been busy with school and, quite frankly, have been getting a little burned out on the whole politics thing.  I haven&#8217;t even watched the news in weeks.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ll take the bait on this one&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s sad and shitty that migrant workers crossing into the US through these wild areas often leave litter behind.</p>
<p>Until we come up with a plan that allows migrant workers to cross into the US safely and through regulated entry points, without penalizing them for trying to make their lives better for themselves and their children, then we&#8217;re going to have to deal with the kinds of mess in your topic.  This kind of environmental damage is a symptom of an ailing immigration policy.</p>
<p>People shouldn&#8217;t be crossing long distances through deserts on foot anyways, unless you are prepared, experienced and treat the land with respect.</p>
<p>This won&#8217;t change until we change the overall situation.</p>
<p>Short term solutions?  There should be local environmental advocacy groups that should take it upon themselves to clean up their neck of the woods.</p>
<p>If I were a local in a problem area, I&#8217;d get off my ass and clean that shit up.  </p>
<p>And feel good about doing it, too.  </p>
<p>Maybe leave signs asking to respect the land.  Provide cat holes to poop in, and maybe even a garbage container or two if possible.  Maybe dig a garabge pit, and mark it well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also leave caches of water and supplies.</p>
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