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Seriously.
Karl at Protein Wisdom: “Yesterday, Iran did not pose a serious threat to the US. Today, Obama declares Iran to be a ‘grave threat.’ Tomorrow, who knows? If it’s Tuesday, it must be Tehran!”
By stating that Iran isn’t a threat because they spend much less on defense than the US, Obama displays a complete ignorance of how asymmetric warfare operates. The AQ “defense budget” for pulling off 9/11, was by comparison to the US, essentially zero.
An analysis of the Iranian order of battle and where they’ve been spending their defense dollars over the past 10 years would show that they are a serious threat in certain specific areas. They’ve been investing heavily in coastal batteries, anti-ship missile systems, silent diesel electric subs, and such. They could turn the narrow strait of Hormuz into an unnavigable scrap yard faster than the US Navy could stop them or the US Air force could neutralize those batteries and missiles.
Are the Iranians going to bomb NYC or invade Chicago? No. Can they be a major PITA to the rest of the world if they decided to suicidally squeeze oil shipments through the straight? Absolutely.
Obama apparently believes that Iran and other rogues states (he lists Iran, Cuba and Venezuela) “don’t pose a serious threat to the U.S.” Iran, specifically, he tells us spends so little on defense relative to us that if Iran “tried to pose a serious threat to us they wouldn’t . . . they wouldn’t stand a chance.”
So, taken literally, he seems not much concerned about Iran’s acquisition of nuclear weapons, its sponsorship of terrorist organizations, its commitment to eradicate Israel, its current actions in supplying weapons that have killed hundreds of Americans in Iraq, and its role in eroding Lebanon’s sovereignty through its client Hezbollah…
…You can understand why every attempt by John McCain to discuss global threats is labeled “fear-mongering” by Obama. In his world this is all a fantasy and we are not at risk. All perfectly logical . . . if you divorce yourself from reality.
…in an era of asymmetrical warfare, a group’s budget and spending do not necessarily reflect the scope or danger of the threat. The 9/11 Commission report stated the attacks cost somewhere between $400,000 and $500,000 to execute, plus the cost of training the 19 hijackers in Afghanistan; the short-term costs alone to the U.S. from the attacks are estimated at $27.2 billion…Let’s look at those nations Obama describes as “tiny”…
When Barry met Mahmoud: By Mark Steyn
I’m with Mark Levin on this one, Andrew. First, I’m in favor of talks even between hostile nations - talks in the back rooms far from the cameras between hard men from the respective parties laying it on the line to each other. But talks at a presidential level are a photo-op, and in according one to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad you’re helping respectabalize him.
Cuba in 1959 had not spent the previous three decades seizing foreign embassies, or openly declaring cash bounties on foreign nationals, or blowing up community centers in foreign capitals, or nurturing terrorist proxies around the world. Cuba in 1959 was not killing American soldiers in American-protected territory right there and then.
Shortly after Kurt Waldheim was elected President of Austria, he was found to have committed a (by the standards of his comrades) relatively minor sin of biographical omission relating to his military service in a war that had ended four decades earlier. Nevertheless, the president of a friendly nation was declared persona non grata in the United States and put on a list of people forbidden to enter the country. President Ahmadinejad has stated publicly that he wishes to wipe an American ally off the face of the map. His agents are trying to kill Americans and those civilians under the protection of US forces right now. We expelled Kurt Waldheim from polite society for what he did as a footling foot-soldier half-a-century earlier but now want to admit to polite society Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for what he’s doing as head of state right now.
“President Obama” will look as ridiculous as that Bollinger guy at Columbia, trying to bring up gay rights while Ahmadinejad insists straight-faced there are no homosexuals in Iran and such a creature is indigenous only to the American landscape. To meet with him under the conditions Senator Obama is proposing communicates only profound weakness by the United States.
Trackposted to Rosemary’s Thoughts, third world county, Allie is Wired, Right Truth, The Pink Flamingo, Dumb Ox Daily News, Conservative Cat, and The Yankee Sailor, thanks to Linkfest Haven Deluxe.
May 20, 2008 - 09:28 AM on May 20th, 2008
“They don’t pose a serious threat to us [b]the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us[/b], and yet we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying, ‘We’re going to wipe you off the planet’.”
In reply, the right wing blogosphere:
“By [b]stating that Iran isn’t a threat[/b] because they spend much less on defense than the US, Obama displays a complete ignorance of how asymmetric warfare operates.”
“Obama apparently believes that Iran and other rogues states (he lists Iran, Cuba and Venezuela) “[b]don’t pose a serious threat to the U.S.[/b]“”
“Let’s look at those nations Obama describes as “tiny””
Hmm… wonder what words are being consistently ‘accidentally’ omitted here.
The answer is really quite obvious here. Obama isn’t claiming that Iran is made of happy daffodils, but rather that unlike the USSR, it poses no *existential* threat. There is no possibility of Iran ‘winning’, and reducing the US to a wasteland or a puppet state. There is correspondingly far less to be scared of in talking to them, assuming the guy doing the talking isn’t a total idiot.
May 20, 2008 - 09:36 AM on May 20th, 2008
2- Well that would eliminate Obama as the communicator in your scenario FhnuZoag. Obama is a totally flippin idiot! None of the links listed said anything about Iran wiping the USA off the face of the earth, but they do go into detail about the reality of Iran being able to do great harm to us.
May 20, 2008 - 09:43 AM on May 20th, 2008
So, um, you agree that Obama is right, and McCain is wrong, in that Iran is less severe a threat than the USSR? Since that’s exactly what Obama said.
May 20, 2008 - 09:52 AM on May 20th, 2008
No I don’t agree because that isn’t what Obama said. Obama doesn’t even know what he said. “McCain said Iran provides explosive devices used to kill U.S. soldiers in Iraq, sponsors terrorists in the Middle East, and is committed to destroying Israel. “The threat … Iran poses is anything but tiny,” McCain said.”
There is nothing incorrect about what McCain said.
Maybe Obama should think before he speaks, it would have helped him when he set off an international incident with Canada.
May 20, 2008 - 01:21 PM on May 20th, 2008
Obama’s dunce hat should be bigger, because he’s got the biggest f@#$&^% head around. HUA Obama and has never been married to REALITY only that unreal wicked witch of the West Michelle, I believe is her name??? He can’t even get a REALITY CHECK, it would bounce.
Counterfeit!
May 20, 2008 - 01:31 PM on May 20th, 2008
Obama is nailing his casket shut as he speaks, sweet nothings!!!!! Oh well, when it comes to being stupid he’s the winner!!! IF, he keeps this up, everybody is going to duck and run. They will be saying “OBAMA, WHO, NOT ME, DON’T KNOW THE IDIOT MUSLIM.” He’s going to disappear so fast it will make his head swim. Michelle better have her suitcase packed, and flight tickets in hand!!!
May 20, 2008 - 02:35 PM on May 20th, 2008
Reality and Liberalism don’t mix.
May 20, 2008 - 03:51 PM on May 20th, 2008
Obama shows with each passing day he is not fit for the Presidency. On multiple levels.
May 20, 2008 - 04:27 PM on May 20th, 2008
I know that many hate her, but Hillary understands this. Have you noticed that she hasn’t been called out on any blunders such as this one?
May 20, 2008 - 06:20 PM on May 20th, 2008
“Obama doesn’t even know what he said.”
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I find that highly unlikly, given the information you provided above and the communications machine of his campaign.
It’s a pretty weak “attack” on Obama, but I suppose it’s fair game - national security is the only ace in the republican hand right now, and they’re going to play it.
May 20, 2008 - 07:11 PM on May 20th, 2008
Of course it is SFL
How about this:
The difference between hope and experience …… is that experience knows what it’s talking about. Take a look at the video from the Hanford Site controversy that Michelle covered yesterday, and see the difference in responses when people question Barack Obama and John McCain about it. McCain responds crisply, aware of the difficulties in and the billions Congress has already spent on the clean-up efforts at the nuclear production facility in Washington, now closed. Barack Obama stammers through an admission that he has no clue about the controversy (via David All): Video
In fact, here’s the Obama response in transcript form:
Here’s something we hear all the time about politicians; Obama doesn’t read legislation before voting on it. Third Wave Dave discovers that Obama voted on a bill in 2005 that specifically dealt with the clean-up effort at Hanford. HR 1815’s summary reads as follows:
Obama voted in favor of HR 1815 in Senate Vote 360, and it passed easily, 95-0, with McCain ironically not in attendance. Even Obama’s own Senate website shows this vote. Does Obama routinely cast votes without having a clue about the issue at hand? And does his campaign staff have no idea how to prepare their candidate for regional appearances, by at least reminding him that he’s supposed to know about Hanford?
The comparison here is obvious. One man in this video has prepared himself for the office of the presidency by doing the job he has now. The other one has been sleepwalking his way through his first term in the Senate.
May 20, 2008 - 07:29 PM on May 20th, 2008
But, it’s all about hope, and change! Don’t you want change, change you can believe in? And if that isn’t enough, you want lots of empty rhetoric? With Obama, you have it all!
May 20, 2008 - 08:22 PM on May 20th, 2008
All this is making Mrs. Clinton look better and better
The issue I have with Obama’s FP strategy (if you can call it that) is that its widely unproven, and comes dangerously close to looking like (or actually being) an appeasement strategy. Either of the three offer a vast improvement on the current individual, IMHO.
David
May 20, 2008 - 08:41 PM on May 20th, 2008
Robert you and many others on Right Voices see the problem of Obama, why is this nightmare still happening? Logic tells
me this should not be happening with so many being against Obama. So what is available in order to stop him gaining any more ground? Maybe this is something that has to play itself out full circle for people to see how WRONG it would be, so we then can have ‘real change?’ I’m counting on this last one, which is my HOPE and BELIEF. Trying hard to be patient and over come evil with good.
May 20, 2008 - 10:34 PM on May 20th, 2008
Because you have all these Obamiacs out there who think they have discovered something new, something wonderful, with his “Change we can believe in” rhetoric.
Problem is when you start looking at the content of his character, as revealed by his background, it starts to become very troubling.
But the sycophants don’t want to hear any of that. They don’t want any does of reality intruding on their fantasy. They want close their eyes and keep their dream going.
I don’t think Earth is in the balance, but I sure do think America is.
May 24, 2008 - 09:55 PM on May 24th, 2008
Robert that was a good summing up of the problem of denial of the truth that is so clear to every one that wants to really see what is happening in this election. I think the democrats are wanting to destroy the economy of America, to have more government take over. Socialist are running things in Congress, and if we elect someone like Obama, more of the same, NO CHANGE that will be GOOD, but a BAD CHANGE. Obama is making out like he is the only one with new ideas, he has done nothing to even make any one believe him yet. Obama has no record of doing a damn thing but sit in a racist church for 20 years. His voting record sucks, like his lousy wife, and no count friends. FANTASY IS THE PERFECT WORD TO BEST DESCRIBE THE OBAMIACS.
SICKO’S!
May 24, 2008 - 10:04 PM on May 24th, 2008
Makes good sense Robert, and what a shame. Sickos are following Obama, and thinking he is so great. He has done nothing and will do nothing but tear down America’s economy to have a government take over. That is the purpose of Congress and the Obamiacs. Socialist to the bone, and evil as Hell, greedy bastards.