David had brought up the fact that he can’t find any info on the carbon credits. Here is a good start. Although I am sure that the intention was good when the idea was proposed, but it appears that greed may have gotten in the way:
Billions of pounds are being wasted in paying industries in developing countries to reduce climate change emissions, according to two analyses of the UN’s carbon offsetting programme.
Leading academics and watchdog groups allege that the UN’s main offset fund is being routinely abused by chemical, wind, gas and hydro companies who are claiming emission reduction credits for projects that should not qualify. The result is that no genuine pollution cuts are being made, undermining assurances by the UK government and others that carbon markets are dramatically reducing greenhouse gases, the researchers say.
The criticism centres on the UN’s clean development mechanism (CDM), an international system established by the Kyoto process that allows rich countries to meet emissions targets by funding clean energy projects in developing nations.
Credits from the project are being bought by European companies and governments who are unable to meet their carbon reduction targets.
The market for CDM credits is growing fast. At present it is worth nearly $20bn a year, but this is expected to grow to over $100bn within four years. More than 1,000 projects have so far been approved, and 2,000 more are making their way through the process.
A working paper from two senior Stanford University academics examined more than 3,000 projects applying for or already granted up to $10bn of credits from the UN’s CDM funds over the next four years, and concluded that the majority should not be considered for assistance. “They would be built anyway,” says David Victor, law professor at the Californian university. “It looks like between one and two thirds of all the total CDM offsets do not represent actual emission cuts.”
Governments consider that CDM is vital to reducing global emissions under the terms of the Kyoto treaty. To earn credits under the mechanism, emission reductions must be in addition to those that would have taken place without the project. But critics argue this “additionality” is impossible to prove and open to abuse. The Stanford paper, by Victor and his colleague Michael Wara, found that nearly every new hydro, wind and natural gas-fired plant expected to be built in China in the next four years is applying for CDM credits, even though it is Chinese policy to encourage these industries.
“Traders are finding ways of gaining credits that they would never have had before. You will never know accurately, but rich countries are clearly overpaying by a massive amount,” said Victor.
A separate study published this week by US watchdog group International Rivers argues that nearly three quarters of all registered CDM projects were complete at the time of approval, suggesting that CDM money was not needed to finance them.
“It would seem clear that a project that is already built cannot need extra income in order to be built,” said Patrick McCully, director of the thinktank in California. “Judging additionality has turned out to be unknowable and unworkable. It can never be proved definitively that if a developer or factory owner did not get offset income they would not build their project.”
Yesterday a spokesman for the CDM in Bonn said the fund was significantly cutting emissions and providing incentives for companies to employ clean technologies: “There is a responsible level of scrutiny. The process is in continual reform. All the projects are vetted independently and are then certified by third parties. There are many checks and balances and we can show how all projects are vetted.”
The UK government last night defended the CDM. “We completely reject any assertions that [it] is fundamentally flawed,” a spokeswoman said. “We’ve worked consistently for and seen improvement in CDM processes over the past few years of its operation. We believe the CDM is essentially transparent and robust, though we will continue to press for the environmental integrity of projects.”
On that note, pay attention to the Lieberman-Warner global warming cap-and-trade bill’s substitute amendment (Climate Security Act – S.2191) FAO has been warning us about this bill!
Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Environment and Public Works Committee, today commented on the Lieberman-Warner global warming cap-and-trade bill’s substitute amendment (Climate Security Act – S.2191).
“The latest version is nothing more than window dressing for a bill that has been exposed by numerous government and private analyses as costly and damaging to America,” Senator Inhofe said. “Lieberman-Warner will redistribute over $5.6 trillion from American consumers to pet congressional projects. Despite paying for the trillions of dollars mandated by this cap-and-trade scheme, American families and workers will only receive back $800 billion in consumer tax relief — $7 paid for every $1 returned.
“The fact is that the Lieberman-Warner bill is the largest pork bill ever considered by Congress. No matter how many revisions this bill undergoes, it remains a massive redistribution of wealth, the largest new tax and spend program in our Nation’s history. The handouts being offered by the sponsors of this bill come straight from the pocket of families and workers in the form of higher gas, power, and heating bills. The newly revised Lieberman-Warner bill offers nothing new except more pain at the gas pump and more expensive consumer goods.”
More here and read this as well:
The Lieberman-Warner bill is a cap-and-tax energy scheme, a carbon-emissions rationing program, a new tax on businesses and consumers, a new big government central agency and new career opportunities for thousands of new lobbyists specializing in greenhouse gas regulations…
… The bill also establishes the Carbon Market Efficiency Board, which shall report on the national greenhouse gas emission market and provide cost relief measures if it determines significant harm to the U.S. economy.
Give me a break!
The people who conceived and wrote this crap are obviously descendants of the same people who wrote the original tax code in 1913, the Social Security legislation in 1935, the Medicare bill of 1965 and the out-of-control prescription drug legislation of 2004.
Just look at how well all of these “the government knows best” programs are working today, and we have a good idea of where this latest giant leap for mankind will work for our grandchildren.
The Institute for Energy Research has extensive analysis of the costs of Lieberman-Warner.
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June 2, 2008 - 08:41 AM on June 2nd, 2008
All this carbon offsets bull kaka its all about forcing us to pay big time taxes to the UN to maintane that building they meet and live in and where noted terrorists leaders have been welcome ITS TIME TO BOOT OUT THE UN
June 2, 2008 - 09:06 AM on June 2nd, 2008
Pam,
Not sure if I’m the person you’d refered to, but I had done previous research on the topic and couldn’t find any carbon offset company that wasn’t a shell game in the end. As you state, well intended, but not well-implemented.
NY-David
June 2, 2008 - 09:19 AM on June 2nd, 2008
That is you that I was referring to
June 2, 2008 - 06:24 PM on June 2nd, 2008
David,
And you include Al Gore’s Carbon Credit scheme?
June 2, 2008 - 06:35 PM on June 2nd, 2008
I’ve never seen one that he personally endorses. Have you?
David
June 2, 2008 - 07:29 PM on June 2nd, 2008
Here is a good example of Al Gore and the Carbon Credit scheme
June 3, 2008 - 11:47 PM on June 3rd, 2008
A first term Democratic Senator from Ohio found a clue today when GM closed the truck plants in Ohio. Sherrod Brown said that he would never vote for Warner Lieberman because of the unemployment it would cause amongst his constituents. It seems that Jay Rockefeller from WV didn’t care for the huge number of West Virginia coal miners that it would force out of work either.
How will Harry Reid ever handle all of these Democrat Senators turning on his liberal agenda legislation and refusing to tow the party line just because the legislation will destroy their constituents? Don’t the know that the little union member people don’t count? Don’t they realize that these people will just have to cling to their guns and bibles and get over it?
June 4, 2008 - 07:02 AM on June 4th, 2008
FAO, glad you finally read this