Comments on: ‘Bush Lied’? No, Not Really, According To The…Democrats?

By: FrmrArtyOffcr

FrmrArtyOffcr — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:25:24 +0000

Here’s a bit of information from someone who actually had access to classified information on Nuclear Biological and Chemical weapons back in the 80s. All of the evidence that has come out of Iraq is indicative of a regime either involved in producing nerve agent, or preparing to do so. There is no reason for a country with the issues that Iraq had to be spending millions on thousands of chemical warfare suits or tens of thousands of doses of nerve agent antidote (atropine) unless they intend to be deploying it in a combat zone. Both of these were found in a number of stockpiles around the country. All of them were from post 1998 production. Were I an analyst watching for signs that someone was playing with toys they shouldn’t have, orders for huge quantities of atropine would set the bells ringing and sirens wailing.

Another little known fact (I read about it in a book about Special Forces operations in Afghanistan and Iraq called “Masters of Chaos”) is that Ansar al Islam (later renamed Al Quaeda in Iraq) was apparently training with chemical weapons production and deployment in an area not far from the Iranian border. While stockpiles of chemical weapons weren’t found, manufacturing and deployment instruction materials were found as well as low density agent.

Considering the ease of production of some agents, the passing of technical data and training to the terrorists was more than adequate reason to remove Saddam. The screw ups from the interim government caused the current situation. Most of the cities were happy to be liberated, but 1% of the population supplemented and puched by foreign nationals is still a fairly substantial fighting forcee, especially in urban environments.

By: NY-David

NY-David — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:57:10 +0000

My overwelming issue was that there was such an atmosphere of “if you question the President, you are not patriotic”. I hold both sides of Congress out for this as well for having access to better information then the rest of us and instead of doing dilligence (ie, their jobs), they went along with somthing that many regret. I can’t read inside Bush’s heart, so I can’t decide that he lied, so I’m left with stating that he’s an idiot and just didn’t know better.
Our forces have changed their tactics and amoung other things, have changed things for the better.
Let’s hope they can make it last until the Iraqi’s can take over. Its the only other thing I can do is hope.
One other thing that I do, an you can as well is go over to http://www.anysoldier.com and get a service person’s address. Send them something and a quick note that we American’s support them.
NY-David

By: Pam

Pam — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:00:28 +0000

NYD, according to General Tommy Franks, he asked the POTUS for the “Mission Accomplished”. It was a message to the troops that we happened to get to witness. It was a thank-you for a job well done by them, and from there, the message was quickly lost on those that wanted it to be. I don’t believe that Bush lied, nor do I think the Democrats like Rockefeller, Clinton, Kerry etc., that came out in 02′ and 03′ and reiterated what the WH was saying, were lying..They all saw the same reports. Bush didn’t get anything that the intelligence committee, and ranking members of other committees didn’t get. Refresh yourself on the Hoekstra/Hartman fight, as it is the perfect example of how some Democrats have tried to lie and say they were kept in the dark, when in actuality, they had everything right in front of them.

By: NY-David

NY-David — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:20:32 +0000

Even Bush’s closest handler (Karen Hughes) said that the “Mission Accomplished” thing on the carrier was in bad taste. Add the various spin on it from the miliary on why he was in a fighter jet (the helicopter couldn’t make the distance, amoung others) and then the further unwinding of the war made it into the joke that it was.
Yes, that particular part was accomplished, but what difference when the war was going badly. Oh yes, and he was about the run for re-election. Again mission accomplished (unfortunately, in my mind).
NY-David

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:03:09 +0000

Truth and reality has never been a prerequisite for Democrite talking points. Another example is the “Mission Accomplished” quote they endlessly repeat and smirk about. Fact is it was referring to the deployment of the ship, which had ended and indeed its mission had been accomplished. Even if someone wants to expand the meaning, it’s still true. Iraq was very successfully invaded and Saddam deposed.

But BHDS sufferers can’t help themselves with a deliberate misuse, all while thinking themselves very clever.

By: NY-David

NY-David — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:42:49 +0000

Actually, Bush never lied about WMD. However the commentary has always been that the intelligence was cherry-picked.
NY-David

By: snowy egret

snowy egret — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:46:09 +0000

BILL CLINTON lied every time he opened his mouth and even lied in his sleep