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	<title>Comments on: Happy Independence Day!</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: human torch</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725121</link>
		<dc:creator>human torch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] names like Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Franklin ?? and we honor their courage and visiohttp://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/The Human Torch... escaped and became the human Torch. The torch fought for good against such ... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] names like Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Franklin ?? and we honor their courage and visiohttp://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/The Human Torch&#8230; escaped and became the human Torch. The torch fought for good against such &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725075</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea. You know, it is so interesting how what is toxic has now also been politicized. C02, a necessary part of the Carbon life cycle and a plant food, is baaad. Mercury was baaad but now it&#039;s okay in CFLs. MTBE was just wonderful in gasoline, until it was shown to be bad. But it was politicized so now we can ignore all of the polluted wells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. You know, it is so interesting how what is toxic has now also been politicized. C02, a necessary part of the Carbon life cycle and a plant food, is baaad. Mercury was baaad but now it&#8217;s okay in CFLs. MTBE was just wonderful in gasoline, until it was shown to be bad. But it was politicized so now we can ignore all of the polluted wells.</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725066</link>
		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Robert, why don&#039;t we take a portion of the mush heads and have them be breakage testers on a CFL production line? If they break it, it fails the test. If it doesn&#039;t it passes. The vast majority of them won&#039;t even realize they&#039;re inhaling mercury fumes, and the rest of us probably won&#039;t even notice any change in their mental capabilities.

For those who don&#039;t know, the character of the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland was partially based on reality. Not that long ago, hats were blocked using mercury to force the felt to take the shape of the mold. From the extended exposure to mercury vapors, the milliners (hat makers for those who attended public schools in the last 25 years) would develop central nervous system damage and literally go insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Robert, why don&#8217;t we take a portion of the mush heads and have them be breakage testers on a CFL production line? If they break it, it fails the test. If it doesn&#8217;t it passes. The vast majority of them won&#8217;t even realize they&#8217;re inhaling mercury fumes, and the rest of us probably won&#8217;t even notice any change in their mental capabilities.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know, the character of the Mad Hatter from Alice in Wonderland was partially based on reality. Not that long ago, hats were blocked using mercury to force the felt to take the shape of the mold. From the extended exposure to mercury vapors, the milliners (hat makers for those who attended public schools in the last 25 years) would develop central nervous system damage and literally go insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725062</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there&#039;s a great PR and marketing spin: We bubble the output gases through a huge bong! A huge bong, bongs, that&#039;s something the young liberals can relate to! Package and sell the idea of constructing huge bongs all over. They&#039;ll be so happy, so content to think of the idea of all those bongs they&#039;ll like the idea!

I&#039;m only half joking. The young are generally so ignorant, many heads so filled with Leftist mush, it might take such creativity to reach them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there&#8217;s a great PR and marketing spin: We bubble the output gases through a huge bong! A huge bong, bongs, that&#8217;s something the young liberals can relate to! Package and sell the idea of constructing huge bongs all over. They&#8217;ll be so happy, so content to think of the idea of all those bongs they&#8217;ll like the idea!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m only half joking. The young are generally so ignorant, many heads so filled with Leftist mush, it might take such creativity to reach them.</p>
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		<title>By: FrmrArtyOffcr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrmrArtyOffcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can significantly lessen the need for oil for personal transportation, but unless you blow off the corn based ethanol (highly inefficient by any standards) and switch that production to biodiesel (an alternative fuel that is efficient) you&#039;ll still have no way to transport anything in this country other than diesel fuel powered trains and trucks. Trucks and trains can run perfectly well on biodiesel, nothing runs well on corn based ethanol. Ethanol has horrible energy output in comparison to the cost of production. A guy here in Phoenix makes his own biodiesel and gets over 50 mpg in a diesel VW station wagon. Ethanol gets substantially worse mpg than gasoline.

We should also get the coal to liquid technology up and running. We have more coal than anyone on the planet. We just need to burn it cleanly. The technology has been there to scrub out the pollutants since the 70s. If all else fails, bubble the exhaust through a water bath, ala a huge bong. It will cool the smoke, remove the pollutants and can be used to produce electricity and chemicals from the heat and filtered out pollutants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can significantly lessen the need for oil for personal transportation, but unless you blow off the corn based ethanol (highly inefficient by any standards) and switch that production to biodiesel (an alternative fuel that is efficient) you&#8217;ll still have no way to transport anything in this country other than diesel fuel powered trains and trucks. Trucks and trains can run perfectly well on biodiesel, nothing runs well on corn based ethanol. Ethanol has horrible energy output in comparison to the cost of production. A guy here in Phoenix makes his own biodiesel and gets over 50 mpg in a diesel VW station wagon. Ethanol gets substantially worse mpg than gasoline.</p>
<p>We should also get the coal to liquid technology up and running. We have more coal than anyone on the planet. We just need to burn it cleanly. The technology has been there to scrub out the pollutants since the 70s. If all else fails, bubble the exhaust through a water bath, ala a huge bong. It will cool the smoke, remove the pollutants and can be used to produce electricity and chemicals from the heat and filtered out pollutants.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725054</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the compliment PCD, happy Independence Day!

Good to see John galt around here.

lb, thanks for the kind words.

America needs a new Independence day: Energy Independence Day!

This is how it can be done: 

1. Changeover to nuclear power for electric generation. Phase out completely burning of natural gas, coal, and oil (if it is still used) for power generation. Invest in upgrading the nation&#039;s power grid. The huge amounts of natural gas formerly used for power generation can be liquified and used for vehicle fuel, reducing the demand for gasoline and diesel. The extra natural gas supply will reduce prices, lowering the cost of heating homes and putting more money in the pockets of consumers that will be spent elsewhere to boost the economy. So-called nuclear waste is a non-issue and through the use of breeder reactors the supply of nuclear &quot;fuel&quot; is unlimited. There is not even a single reason not to go nuke.

2. The abundance of cheap electric power from nuclear power will enable change over to plug-in hybrids, further reducing the need for gasoline. 

3. A Manhattan project to develop the hydrogen fuel cell for full commercialization and productization will further reduce the need for oil as a transportation fuel. Power from nuclear plants at night can be used to generate Hydrogen. That plus the proliferation of plug-in hybrids will almost eliminate the need for oil for transportation. Pollution from transportation will be almost eliminated, the emission of C02, if you care about that, will be reduced by ~40%, and as the price of oil sharply declines the costs of all the products made from oil will also decline, further enhancing the economic boom.

4. Ethanol? If it can be made to compete, like with development of other biomass that enables a better output to input ratio of net energy from the process, it will find its own level. Otherwise, it can go away. Sorry, agribusiness, but let the chips fall where they may. It&#039;s time.

5. America&#039;s balance of trade will nearly balance as we will import no more energy, and America will experience a clean, healthy economic boom that will be unprecedented.

This is a very simplified version of the model, but if I can  figure it out, why can&#039;t Congress? This is a multiple choice question:

A. Ignorance
B. Utter incompetence
C. Corruption
D. Mental illness
E. All of the above</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the compliment PCD, happy Independence Day!</p>
<p>Good to see John galt around here.</p>
<p>lb, thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>America needs a new Independence day: Energy Independence Day!</p>
<p>This is how it can be done: </p>
<p>1. Changeover to nuclear power for electric generation. Phase out completely burning of natural gas, coal, and oil (if it is still used) for power generation. Invest in upgrading the nation&#8217;s power grid. The huge amounts of natural gas formerly used for power generation can be liquified and used for vehicle fuel, reducing the demand for gasoline and diesel. The extra natural gas supply will reduce prices, lowering the cost of heating homes and putting more money in the pockets of consumers that will be spent elsewhere to boost the economy. So-called nuclear waste is a non-issue and through the use of breeder reactors the supply of nuclear &#8220;fuel&#8221; is unlimited. There is not even a single reason not to go nuke.</p>
<p>2. The abundance of cheap electric power from nuclear power will enable change over to plug-in hybrids, further reducing the need for gasoline. </p>
<p>3. A Manhattan project to develop the hydrogen fuel cell for full commercialization and productization will further reduce the need for oil as a transportation fuel. Power from nuclear plants at night can be used to generate Hydrogen. That plus the proliferation of plug-in hybrids will almost eliminate the need for oil for transportation. Pollution from transportation will be almost eliminated, the emission of C02, if you care about that, will be reduced by ~40%, and as the price of oil sharply declines the costs of all the products made from oil will also decline, further enhancing the economic boom.</p>
<p>4. Ethanol? If it can be made to compete, like with development of other biomass that enables a better output to input ratio of net energy from the process, it will find its own level. Otherwise, it can go away. Sorry, agribusiness, but let the chips fall where they may. It&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>5. America&#8217;s balance of trade will nearly balance as we will import no more energy, and America will experience a clean, healthy economic boom that will be unprecedented.</p>
<p>This is a very simplified version of the model, but if I can  figure it out, why can&#8217;t Congress? This is a multiple choice question:</p>
<p>A. Ignorance<br />
B. Utter incompetence<br />
C. Corruption<br />
D. Mental illness<br />
E. All of the above</p>
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		<title>By: libbie basher</title>
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		<dc:creator>libbie basher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert

   Make that 6 votes, do I hear 7, do I hear 7. Keep it up we&#039;re only about 30 million short, write in candidate, get this country back on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert</p>
<p>   Make that 6 votes, do I hear 7, do I hear 7. Keep it up we&#8217;re only about 30 million short, write in candidate, get this country back on track.</p>
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		<title>By: PCD</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725047</link>
		<dc:creator>PCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, John, do be so scarce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, John, do be so scarce.</p>
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		<title>By: BonBon</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725046</link>
		<dc:creator>BonBon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to hear from you John...here&#039;s to you. @};-:x**==</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to hear from you John&#8230;here&#8217;s to you. <img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_flower.gif' alt='&#64;&#125;&#59;&#45;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#64;&#125;&#59;&#45;' /><img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_love.gif' alt='&#58;&#120;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#120;' /><img src='http://rightvoices.com/smilies/yahoo_flag.gif' alt='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' class='wp-smiley' width='25' height='18' title='&#42;&#42;&#61;&#61;' /></p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
		<link>http://rightvoices.com/2008/07/03/happy-independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-725045</link>
		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Independence Day all!  Hope all is well with you and yours!</description>
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