That’s if He Actually Was Born an American…
There is just no more denying it. Yes, Obama went to Harvard and he’s a lawyer. He’s a crackerjack “Community Organizer”. He’s articulate when he has a prepared speech with a teleprompter. So the MSM assumes he’s brilliant. Yet we see over and over not only how ignorant Obama is, but it occasionally borders on stupidity. This guy is a doofus, folks. There’s no more denying it. Away from the speech written by someone else, without his handlers, when he opens his mouth and what comes out originates in his own head, it is too often just abysmal. His gaffes are becoming legendary. Here’s his latest example of an out-of-touch idiot:
While blathering about the oil problem, Obama lectured that individuals can do a lot to help the situation by “…keeping tires properly inflated and getting regular tune-ups.”
You poor, sad fool! Cars haven’t required tuneups for 10, 15 even 20 years, you babbling idiot! And the MSMers say McCain is too old and out of touch? Obama is young and out of touch! Imagine what will happen when he’s McCain’s age! If this is any indication he’ll have to have help signing his Social Security checks!
Now if McCain said something this ignorant it would be the lead story for a week. Same for Bush. But for the Emperor without clothes? Not a peep from the MSM. You’ll only hear about it in talk radio and from Conservative news sources.
Sorry, Obamiacs. Your Messiah is a false prophet, a fool, an ignoramus! This Clown can not, must not ever be put in the White House. He must be defeated!
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August 1, 2008 - 06:02 PM on August 1st, 2008
I see the free “Obama ‘08″ bumper sticker banner ad from moveon.org. I just might get one, and write on it, underneath “Obama ‘08″, “For $6 gas”.
August 1, 2008 - 09:18 PM on August 1st, 2008
I think I can see whats really going on here. You can’t stand the idea of someone that doesn’t look like the people on the currency, that doesn’t look like you and your friends. Thats really it isn’t it. Don’t worry you do have company. Regrettably there will be many voters who will not vote for President Obama, and when you boil it down it’s all for the same reason.
I thought we were making more progress since the 1960s but there will always be some who just cannot move on past their own prejudices and will never be progressive.
Whatever, you will just be left as a dinosaur, a neocon neanderthal icon along the roadside as the Progressives speed past you on their way to the future! President Obama will reward those who are loyal to the Progressive cause. You people still clinging to your guns and your silly religion plus your antiquated and outdated notions of your constitution will have no place in the future envisioned and created by President Obama!
August 2, 2008 - 11:42 AM on August 2nd, 2008
I noticed how he condescendingly sneered at his audience too. The audacity of arrogance. King Obama.
And DA above, you are so out of touch. White or black americans have criticized lots about the incumbent candidates. Just because Obama is black does not disqualify him from criticism.
Further, how can you even say we are still a prejudice nation when people like Obama even MAKE it to being the nominee. How do you explain Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Colin Power, etc.? You may be the one who needs to open your mind.
Yes, Robert is right, liberalism is a form of mental illness. It comes from having such a closed mind.
August 2, 2008 - 01:21 PM on August 2nd, 2008
Actually, Liberalism is the art of an opened mind. I don’t see any new substance on the energy issue then drill, drill and more drill. The sad thing is that if drilling happens, the price will probabably go down without anything significant being down in changing how we use fossil fuel. Until that happens, the Republicans will be as useless as the Democrats they claim superiority over. That’s why Pelosi and crew won’t sign onto furtther drilling… because that along isn’t an answer. Along the same lines, when GWB defined the War on Terror as The War in Iraq. It still doesn’t fix the original problem.
Same ole, same ole.
NY-David
August 2, 2008 - 01:31 PM on August 2nd, 2008
Not really David. My husbands side of the family border on the extreme left. They are very closed minded. Don’t want to hear an opposing point of view and always ask when meeting someone new if they “think like them.” They like me well enough I believe but we always seem to be at odds.
Show me where Bush defined the War on Terror as the War in Iraq? That has never been my impression and I have listened to him on many occasions including his 9/22?/01 speech to the Congress and his state of the unions.
August 2, 2008 - 04:57 PM on August 2nd, 2008
David, there is noone as closed minded as a liberal. Example ALgore and global warming. According to ALgore, the debate is over. According to hundreds of scientists, that is not the case. But according to Algore, the debate is over and to say otherwise makes you a denier. Even those who say that the planet may be getting warmer, but that there is insufficient evidence to prove that man is causing it, are called names and degraded. That’s hardly the sign of an open mind. The truth is that the planet’s temperature has fluctuated throughout history. It is COOLER now than it was 1000 years ago. If it was hotter 1000 years ago, why would anyone but a fool believe that industrialization is the cause of the planet getting warmer? The oceans are full of dissolved CO2 gas, much like a carbonated soda. Man made global warming alarmists are claiming that man made CO2 is causing global warming. Objective scientists are saying hang on there a minute, yes CO2 levels have increased somewhat, but there is nothing to prove that man caused it. It’s perfectly plausible that solar heating of the ocean caused the sea water to release more CO2 like a warm soda does. While both increased temperatures and increased CO2 levels have been observed, there is nothing that can prove which caused the other and to assign a causal relationship to one over the other is ludicrous.
Look at DA’s initial post on this thread. He doesn’t address the argument that Obama is an incompetent condescending A$$hole. He begins his post with the Democrat talking point that if you don’t vote for Obama it’s because you’re a racist. BULL$hit. I would happily vote for a black man for president AS LONG AS HE’S/SHE’s COMPETENT for the position. Obama is NOT. Exactly how open minded does it require someone to be to constantly refuse to even listen to questions about someone’s competence from anyone and respond with “You’re a racist”? I would vote for Condoleeza Rice in a heartbeat. She’s not only blacker than the mulatto Obama, she’s a woman so I’m neither a sexist or a racist. I just happen to think that the position of President requires a better qualified, more experienced person than a community organizer. I’m not particularly happy with McCain, but he’s a boat load better than Obama.
August 2, 2008 - 09:11 PM on August 2nd, 2008
“David, there is noone as closed minded as a liberal.”
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Wrong.
Look in a dictionary; the very definition of the words are contrary to your opinion on the matter.
Liberal - adj. - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
Conservative - adj. - Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
August 2, 2008 - 09:15 PM on August 2nd, 2008
“Look at DA’s initial post on this thread. He doesn’t address…”
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How many times will I have to tell you people that “Democratic Activist” is INSINCERE with their posts.
It’s someone, probably on the right, posing as someone on the left.
Very easy to see through, looking as I am from the Left…
August 2, 2008 - 09:16 PM on August 2nd, 2008
#4 NY-David, if Liberalism is the art of an open mind, then many if not most of the people who are “Liberals” will need a new classification.
Like Democratic Idiot, I mean, Activist. Although DA seems more like a pure Marxist Socialist.
FAO is correct again. Wanna see a totally closed mind? Talk to a human-caused-Global Warming (HCGW) zealot. Like SFL for example. We post case after case of highly-respected scientific experts who now not only do not support the hypothesis, but are now rejecting it. The numbers are mounting, the anti-HCGW side is now the far greater “consenus”. But SFL won’t even acknowledge any of that; he repeats the religious mantra. His mind is absolutely closed. Perhaps he’s not really a Liberal? I don’t know for sure. But he identifies as such and on everything else seems to fit the profile.
August 2, 2008 - 09:34 PM on August 2nd, 2008
So what does everybody think about my assertion that Obama is not anywhere near as bright as he’s made out to be, that in fact he is smart enough to manipulate and take advantage of situations but that is as far as it goes. That he\is brilliance is a media creation and without speechwriters, handlers, and advisors he’s not anything more than a “Community Organizer”.
I’d even go so far as to say he is not the sharpest tool in the drawer. He went to Harvard; Bush went to Yale and the Left and the MSM have pronounced Bush to be a dullard. So why not Obama? Look at his ignorance, his borderline stupidity, his prolific extreme gaffes. Tells me he’s not anywhere as smart as he’s been promoted to be.
August 2, 2008 - 09:35 PM on August 2nd, 2008
SFL DA uses phrases and concepts that Obama himself has used. So Obama is insincere too?
August 2, 2008 - 09:43 PM on August 2nd, 2008
if Liberalism is the art of an open mind, then many if not most of the people who are called or identify as “Liberals” will need a new classification.
Like Democratic Idiot, I mean, Activist. Although DA seems more like a pure Marxist Socialist.
FAO #10 is correct again. Want to see a totally closed mind? Talk to a human-caused-Global Warming (HCGW) zealot. Like SFL for example. We post case after case of highly-respected scientific experts who not only do not support the hypothesis, but are now openly rejecting it on scientific grounds. The numbers are mounting, the anti-HCGW side is now the far greater “consenus”. But SFL won’t even acknowledge any of that; he repeats the religious mantra. His mind is absolutely closed. Perhaps he’s not really a Liberal? I don’t know for sure. But he identifies as such and on everything else seems to fit the profile quite well.
August 2, 2008 - 10:21 PM on August 2nd, 2008
Robert - thank you! Obama is a dunce that can play it cool and even that is fake. As far as intelligence, his brain is fried. He has done some of the most stupid childish things as anyone that has ever run for any office. IMO there is no one on the face of this earth that I find more repulsive than Obama and so are his followers. They are snakes in the grass, so obtrusive, plus very rude and crude. The picture they show all the time with his mother holding him as a baby is common and trashy. What are people thinking????? They are lulled to sleep by this grandiose delusion that is not even real. Obama’s whole demeanor, his skip when he walks, his proud snub nose look, how he talks, his lack of upbringing, it’s very disgusting.
“You can take the boy out of the culture, but you can’t take the culture out of the boy.”
August 2, 2008 - 11:08 PM on August 2nd, 2008
“SFL DA uses phrases and concepts that Obama himself has used. So Obama is insincere too?”
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That doesn’t make any sense, Robert…
Obama is insincere because someone pretending to be something they aren’t on the internet is also insincere?
What?!
Besides, DA is probably you anyways, you’ve done that kind of thing before.
August 2, 2008 - 11:10 PM on August 2nd, 2008
“So what does everybody think about my assertion that Obama is not anywhere near as bright as he’s made out to be…”
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I think you’re wrong.
For starters, look at how far the man has come. (!)
August 2, 2008 - 11:47 PM on August 2nd, 2008
How far he has come? As a total MSM creation. An empty suit, an image with little substance.
How do you explain his gaffes? He’ll be President of all 57 states for the next 8 to 10 years, right? He’s a buffoon.
August 2, 2008 - 11:48 PM on August 2nd, 2008
What I am saying, SFL, is Emperor Obama HAS NO clothes. But you either can’t see it or won’t admit it.
August 3, 2008 - 07:33 AM on August 3rd, 2008
SFL, just because the definition of a liberal is open minded does not mean that liberals are really open minded. Okay?
Yes, Obama is an empty suit and anyone who is falling for his ’star status’ should think again. Get the glitter out of your eyes and look at the substance.
August 3, 2008 - 11:10 AM on August 3rd, 2008
We’ll understand SFL if you don’t see any substance in Obama…because we don’t see it either…there isn’t any.
August 3, 2008 - 02:19 PM on August 3rd, 2008
San Francisco Liberal: I normally do not address or argue with individuals in my posting, because our work is far too strategic and important to get bogged down in petty online disputes and discussions. So consider yourself fortunate that I have even acknowledged your presence.
You as a self proclaimed Liberal have no monopoly on Progressive ideals or agendas. In fact, real Progressives such as myself generally look down on generic Liberals because they are not as committed to the real change of today’s true Progressive movement. For example, you seem to support Obama, yet you have no response to the criticisms of the right wing neocon posters on this site. You can’t seem to explain why you support Obama or why Obama is clearly the best choice. Are you that unaware of his background? Are you that ignorant of his true opinions his writings and his orientation? Progressives are fully aware and that is why we support him.
I can say the same about you, that you are not real, you should not be posting, you don’t have a clue, or many other opinions. The fact you are clueless is evident in your posts. If you had any real knowledge of Obama you would be energetically posting about how we will blueprint and implement the Progressive agenda, the massive change in the social order necessary for the populace to become more compliant and docile as we shift from racist white capitalist oppression to the Progressive model.
I’ve wasted enough time explaining to you. You either get it or you don’t. My guess is you don’t and won’t.
Obama in ‘08! Despite the inadequate rantings of ignorant Liberals!
August 3, 2008 - 07:57 PM on August 3rd, 2008
Yup…
Definitely fake and insincere.
It’s SO obvious!! And so f*cking lame.
August 3, 2008 - 08:05 PM on August 3rd, 2008
“SFL, just because the definition of a liberal is open minded does not mean that liberals are really open minded. Okay?”
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Umm…just as long as it’s Okay with you for someone to be called a conservative when they actually DO NOT “favor traditional views and values”.
Right, BonBon? Because that is what you just said, but about liberals.
August 3, 2008 - 08:09 PM on August 3rd, 2008
“We’ll understand SFL if you don’t see any substance in Obama…because we don’t see it either…there isn’t any.”
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Actually there is plenty of “substance” regarding Sen. Obama; you just refuse to see it because you follow a different political ideology.
I fail to see any Presidential “substance” in Sen. McCain, but I’m sure there are many conservatives who would disagree with me on that.
August 3, 2008 - 09:01 PM on August 3rd, 2008
I find close-minded persons on both side, usually at the extreme. Because of its extemeity, that’s how they function in the world.
This election has gotten about as issue-less as you can get. Both sides pouncing on the mis-steps of the other and only our country will be left to suffer.
If I read the above post correctly, Progressiveism can be applied to both sides. On this note I’m very disappointed in Congress for not pulmulgating an energy policy beyond the “drill, drill, drill” discourse. We need to do better. Our nation deserves nothing less.
NY-David
August 3, 2008 - 11:20 PM on August 3rd, 2008
SFL I challenge you to find any substance in Obama the person. When has he:
1. Demonstrated strength of character? When he sat in that “church” and listened to hate-America racist rantings for 20 years (then lied about it)? When he stated publicly he was standing by Wright and others, then later threw them under the bus?
2. Demonstrated integrity? In his corrupt dealings with Tony Rezko in Chicago?
3. Done anything at all to serve his Country? Military Service? Peace Corps? His Senate service perhaps, but half the time he was never even present.
4. Functioned as a CEO or COO of a corporation, demonstrating ability to function in an executive capacity? Nada.
5. Shown he is able to get a Security Clearance? How can we possibly have a CIC who could never get a TS clearance, let alone a Secret clearance?
6. Started a business or shown any understanding at all of how the American economy works? Nope.
Your Emperor has NO clothes, SFL. The Democrat Activist had it right when he pointed out that you never are able to counter what the rest of us post here about Obama. You never have any explanations for his lapses, his gaffes, his grievous missteps, his fumbles. You just talk about the change thing, and how young Obama is. Other than that you can’t seem to come up with any reasons why anyone should vote for Obama. And there are a mountain of reasons why people should not vote for him.
McCain? He has long Senate experience, has served his country, and the strength of his character has been tested under the most severe circumstances and has found to be strong. He’s very far from my ideal but he’s light years ahead of Obama.
August 3, 2008 - 11:27 PM on August 3rd, 2008
And the Democrat Activist is another babbling Leftist idiot. He is worse than a Liberal; he is a Communist (a Socialist on steroids). It is important to note that Liberalism is a cousin to Socialism and Communism, and it can be argued that Communism is the extrapolation of Liberalism.
August 4, 2008 - 05:23 AM on August 4th, 2008
The substance Obama and SFL are made of is simple MANURE!!!!!!
August 4, 2008 - 08:32 AM on August 4th, 2008
Sorry Robert, but I have to comment here -
1. Wright - quit listening to what others tell you and listen to his sermon and remember who he’s preaching it to. Its like going to a Spanish church and being mad its in Spanish.
2. That was never proven and you could dig up stuff on just about anyone, if you wanted.
3. He did local community service. Compare this against GW’s pathetic NG service.
4. Any good Senator functions as an executive on a daily basis.
5. If he needed it, he could get it. I’m rather the fact that he did his job and got the security clearence necessary. I see too many people in governement bragging about what they have access to and then don’t do anything with it. ‘Nother useless comment.
6. I don’t think he’s down for having run an actual business, but I’ve yet to see any measure where the Republican’s show this to be an assett. GW ran several businesses into the ground but this didn’t seem to discredit him.
Mc Cain had got shot down several times and only got his continued flying assignments due to family connections. I respect his and any other vets contribution to this country. Unfortunately, using Kerry as an example, the Republican’s have proven that they only support the troops when its convenient and I don’t give McCain this leeway.
I will be very interested in seeing who the VEEP is going to be before solidifying my choice.
NY-David
August 4, 2008 - 10:40 AM on August 4th, 2008
You got a point there, PCD. It emanates from him Obama every time he appears and speaks and is eagerly lapped up by his disciples.
SFL you are technically correct; Obama does have some substance. He’s filled with it.
August 4, 2008 - 11:20 AM on August 4th, 2008
NY-David,
1. Are you joking? You can just casually dismiss what Wright said, plus his close affiliation over 20 years with Obama? What Wright said is the stuff that starts civil wars. Do we want another one of those? And Obama wouldn’t sit there for 20 years if at least some of it didn’t resonate.
2. It is a matter of record. You haven’t heard about the real estate deals?
3. Local community service? Helping people sign up for Gov’t bennies and welfare freebies? Do you have any idea how rigorous and dangerous flight training is? Yet you dismiss GWBs accomplishment.
4. Well, they do manage corrupt payoffs and requests from Lobbyists, so you may have a point there. But Obama has scarcely been in the Senate for a very short time, and half the time he wasn’t even around. He’s a non-performer. He would have been dumped long ago in any business venue.
5. McCain was the Commander of his squadron. Whatever else happened, he wouldn’t have gotten there if he didn’t have leadership qualities. McCain’s trials and tribulations, and the test of his mettle, are so many quantum levels above anything Obama has ever conceivably experienced it’s best not to even go there.
6. Obama has no business experience but he’s POTUS/CIC material? No way Jose.
Obama is an empty suit, smoke and mirrors, an MSM creation, a zero. Take away his speech (written by someone else) and his teleprompter and he can’t talk/think his way out of a paper bag.
Kind of reminds like the movie 1984 when the leader would appear on the telescreens to address the people. And you would wonder whether this person was real, even existed, or just a computer generated image, a special effects artifact. Obama is much the same.
August 5, 2008 - 08:13 AM on August 5th, 2008
1. As I attend a Catholic chuch doesn’t mean I believe in all of its ideals. Religion isn’t something you move in and out of at the drop of a hat. Don’t worry, most people don’t get the idea of Wright anyway.
2. I’ve heard about them in the same sense I’ve heard of McCain’s issues with his wife not wanting to open her tax information. I dismiss it all as everyone, including me has something back there they’d rather not have come out.
3. Gee, several times in my life, my parents had to go on welfare. I this makes me someone looking for a handout. Everyone needs help now and then. As for Bush’s service, it’d be more admirable is actually served after his training.
4. Not sure where you can make this judgement from. By and large, Reagan had very little business experience, but I credit him with displaying a tremendous amount of leadership.
5. I certainly don’t descredit what McCain has done. I just think that it doesn’t give him a shoo in for the presidency. We are involved and will win a very non-consequential war that is very off base from what it started to be. As you remark on the business side, if I’m in charge of a project and it goes off track, I’m responsible and accountable for it.
6. Business experience isn’t the markings or a requirement for a good POTUS, although I would like to see some amount of business sense in the position. To this end, I think Mit Romney would be interesting, his social politics not withstanding.
Entirely agree with your ‘84 reference. It would be easy for someone to pull off it not for the likes of Michael Moore, etc.
NY-David
August 5, 2008 - 09:27 PM on August 5th, 2008
NYDavid,
Stop smoking that funny stuff from Harlem.
August 7, 2008 - 06:40 AM on August 7th, 2008
NY-David,
I think the Wright point is being glossed over here. Obama attended the church for 20 years, considered Wright to be a family member, just like an uncle. When confronted on the subject of the volatile nature of the sermons, Obama tried to claim that he never once heard him speak in that manner!
Rezko not proven? Um, Obama stated publically, not once but twice, that he wouldn’t take donations from Rezko, and each time he was caught, he said he showed poor judgment. Obama, Rezko, Auchi, And Saddam…The Funding For That “boneheaded mistake” When confronted on the land deal, he said that too, was a error in judgment and a “boneheaded” mistake. Obama Wasn’t Totally Truthful On Rezko Donations..Isn’t That Really Just A Lie?
In both cases, This seems to be the General Rule of Obama–if it’s going to damage him, he condemns it! And rejects and denounces. Vehemently!
Reagan served as the Governor of California and actually went to work for the people. Robert missed the point of the service in Illinois legislature, where Obama had a habit of voting present, and record of non performance. The New York Times Goes After The Rezko/Obama Connection ..WaPo Goes After Obama’s Record . It wasn’t until his last year that he developed a resume, thanks to
On The Rise Of Obama:”He said, ‘Cliff, I’m gonna make me a U.S. Senator.’”