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When The Poll Gods Are Not In His Favor, The Organizer In Chief Obama Plays The Race Card

By: Pam On: Sep/5/08 -

Because Rasmussen , CBS and Gallup are not showing hope, race is the change that is needed:

“I know that I’m not your typical presidential candidate,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., told executives and employees of the Schott glass company Friday afternoon, “and I just want to be honest with you. I know that.”

“And I know that the temptation is to say, ‘You know what? :The guy hasn’t been there that long in Washington.,’ You know, ‘he’s got funny name,’ You know, ‘we’re not sure about him,’” Obama continued. “And that’s what the Republicans, when they say, ‘This isn’t about issues, it’s about personalities,’ what they’re really saying is, ‘We’re going to try to scare people about Barack. So we’re going to say that you know, maybe he’s got Muslim connections or we’re going to say that, you know, he hangs out with radicals or he’s not patriotic.’

Ed point to this

Sen. Barack Obama ditched his normal languid cool today, punching back at Gov. Sarah Palin as he spoke with reporters in York, Pa, hotly defending his work as a community organizer. He said he assumes Palin “wants to be treated same way guys want to be treated, which means their records are under scrutinty. I’ve been through this for 19 months. She’s been through it, what four days?”

Obama’s hackles were clearly raised by Palin’s dismissal of his community organizing –a response to his earlier dismissal of her record as a small-town mayor. “Why would that kind of work be ridiculed?” Obama said. “Who are they fighting for?” The idea that community organizing is not relevant to the presidency, he said, just shows why Republicans “are out of touch and don’t get it.”

The Obama campaign was clearly on the defensive today, acknowledging how appealing Palin came across, and sending out surrogates hitting their talking points that Republicans have spent their time on attacks rather than substance.

And adds:

Says the man who keeps calling John McCain the same as George Bush.  There’s a word for a man who can dish it out but can’t take it.  I’ll leave it to you to reach your own conclusions.

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Posted on: September 5, 2008 |

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25 Responses to “When The Poll Gods Are Not In His Favor, The Organizer In Chief Obama Plays The Race Card”

  1. Lemmy
    September 5, 2008 - 05:19 PM on September 5th, 2008

    I don’t get it. The CBS poll from yesterday has the race tied; Rasmussen has Obama up by 2; Gallup has Obama up by 4; Hotline/FD has Obama up by 6; and Obama’s lead in swing state polls continues to grow. How are the poll gods not in his favor? Did you mean to write that the poll gods aren’t in McCain’s favor? Because that’s how it looks.

  2. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 06:06 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Obama 46% of the vote while McCain earns 45%= a statistical dead heat.

    Gallup Daily: Obama 49%, McCain 43%
    Too early to reflect impact of GOP convention in St. Paul
    September 3, 2008

    Gallup Daily: No Dent in Obama Lead So Far
    Obama holds 7-point lead in latest results
    September 4, 2008

    Gallup Daily: Obama’s Lead Now at 4 Points
    Obama’s position about halfway between his recent highs and lows
    September 5, 2008
    The latest three-day Gallup Poll Daily tracking report, with one full day of interviewing following Gov. Sarah Palin’s vice presidential acceptance speech, finds Barack Obama with a four-percentage-point lead over John McCain in national presidential preferences, 48% to 44%.

    Looks to me like he lost points, therefore, the polls are not in his favor and we both knew that.

  3. ellis
    September 5, 2008 - 06:27 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Well, everyone gets a bounce during their convention. Let’s see what the polls show in several weeks when the populace digests the lies being regurgitated from the conservatives. As Obama says, what’s wrong with being a community organizer (a faith based organizer might I add) who works for the benefit of the people? I seem to recall that any faith based effort is gospel to conservatives. Perhaps it’s the betterment of average folks, the middle class, etc. that gets in your craw?

    Oh, another point on polls, I recall that (four years ago) I was berated with “the only poll that counts is the one on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November …” I presume since you guys never spin things or lie that you still adhere to that tenet.

  4. Lemmy
    September 5, 2008 - 07:04 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Exactly, Ellis “General election” polls, while not exactly meaningless, aren’t sound indicators of anything unless you’ve got really lopsided numbers — 15% or more up, for a month running. And this applies whether Obama’s up (which makes me happy) or McCain is up (which makes Pam happy).

    That said, losing a little ground or not, I’d much rather be 4 points up than 4 points down. It’s kind of hard to spin being 4 points down as “favorable.” But I’m sure the McCain campaign would try. At least one of his supporters certainly is.

  5. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 07:25 PM on September 5th, 2008

    The only poll that actually matters is the one that is taken on election day..

    What lies? Can you point to a lie? I have pointed out the lies that Obama has told, now can you point to the lies that i told? I have the links up about his organizing..

    SEE posts in the side bar:

    Will some enterprising MSM member ask Organizer in Chief Obama if he’ll call for a police surge to protect the lives of his own Illinois constitutents?

    and

    SIREN ALERT: Don’t You Dare Pick On A “community organizer”..It’s Racist And Obama Is Just Like Jesus

    outside links:

    TNR- What Barack Obama won’t tell you about his community organizing past.

    http://tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=2e0a7836-b897-4155-864c-25e791ff0f50

    Michelle’s Boot Camps For Radicals

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305420655186700

    The only person that believe that any faith based effort is gospel to conservatives, is someone that is neither conservative, nor someone that pays attention.

    Why would anyone have a problem with someone succeeding? What I have a problem with is the claim that it was faith based. Giving to a church, his own, as Obama did, does not make it a faith based program. Rev. Wright retiring with a $1.7 million, 10,340-square-foot mansion a far cry from the impoverished Chicago streets where the preacher led his ministry for 36 years, is hypocritical and wrong. Public service, for those not at the top of the food chain, is for people not looking to make lots of money, willing to put in long hours, and rarely if ever, get a nod of gratitude. In this case, Obama’s church and by extension, Rev Wright, took funds from The Annenberg Project(Which was a bust)as well as funds from the U of C where Michelle worked.

    I also have a problem with the evangelical pastors and their Lear jets. My biggest pet peeve is from within my own religion: Cardinal Bernard Law receiving a monthly salary of $12,000? GTFOOH! :-w

  6. SpideyTerry
    September 5, 2008 - 07:53 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Actually, the poll gods are not in Obama’s favor. Considering the political climate these days, Obama should be way ahead of McCain and yet he can’t maintain a lead outside of the margin of error - at least not for very long.

    Of course, these polls are meaningless and the only one that matters is the one on election day. That’s a given. But can anyone honestly say that the Obama campaign isn’t the slightest bit worried that he isn’t doing better in the polls? I’m sure the McCain campaign is happy he’s not way ahead? Also, suppose the polls reflected a different message - showing Obama up by double digits. Would Obama supporters be jumping for joy if that were the case? I sure think so, and I couldn’t really blame them, either. I know I’d be happy if someone I was supporting was staying ahead of the competition.

  7. Lemmy
    September 5, 2008 - 08:34 PM on September 5th, 2008

    A lead is a lead. Sure, I’d prefer it if Obama had a larger lead. But I’d rather be up than down. Wouldn’t you?

    And what’s with all the hair-trigger sensitivity about racism around here? You all are worse than the PC crowd. Guilty conscience?

  8. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 08:43 PM on September 5th, 2008

    $350 million and every major newspaper and the alphabet of networks doing his bidding, and Obam is up by 2 points.. I’d say John McCain is doing just fine!

  9. ellis
    September 5, 2008 - 08:51 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Pam, I didn’t say you lied. I was referring to McCain’s organization and party. Sorry that I wasn’t clear.

    Palin did not sell a plane on eBay. Latest reports say she listed it 3 times without success, and eventually sold it through a broker for a $6,000,000 loss ($27mm v $21mm)

    Palin was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. At that, she still took the funds … $400,000,000 …

    As mayor, Palin hired lobbyists to gain funding. Runs counter to her proclamations otherwise.

    Obama has reached across the aisle in the hopes of moving things along. Don’t tell me otherwise.

    I commented about the community organizer snarks in an earlier post.

    Need I go on? It sounds to me that the R party is following their tried and true MO of throwing crap against the wall and lying. Throw enough and some will stick regardless of the truth. Lie enough and some folks will believe it. Especially those who don’t follow things as closely as you or I do. Might they be called the “base?” Gotta rally dem “basers.”

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  11. ellis
    September 5, 2008 - 09:00 PM on September 5th, 2008

    “$350 million and every major newspaper and the alphabet of networks doing his bidding, and Obam is up by 2 points.. ”

    It’s well known that independents and swing voters will decide the election. If the polls show a 45-45 split now (most are +/- that by a few points and within the margin of error), I submit that one can’t tell a whole lot. The 8-10% outstanding is what we’re fighting over. The rest have made up their minds … or might I sway you, Pam?

    Also, it’s not raw vote that decides things and the polls are based on raw count. Otherwise, we’d be saying good-bye to Al Gore now and GW would be failing somewhere else. Rather, it’s electoral votes, and Obama is doing quite well there, thank you. The last pro-forma electoral results I saw show Obama winning by a wide margin. He is likely to gain some prior red states.

  12. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 09:11 PM on September 5th, 2008

    I knew you weren’t accusing me of that..

    She said, I sold the jet, I put it on ebay.. To be technical, she didn’t say I sold it on ebay…Did the jet get sold? yes. Was the jet listed on ebay? Yes

    She was for them prior to taking office, but turned down the funds upon entering office. She took the non earmarked funds and put them towards transportation projects in the state. I wish my governor had a brain..maybe we would have roads rather than holes up and down the stretches that used to have cement and tar and cars could ride atop rather than in them.

    She did hire lobbyists and McCain went after it..

    What aisle did Obama reach across? The one at the fundraiser or his church doesn’t count.

  13. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 09:14 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Ellis, Obama made my mind up last spring..McCain and Palin..he also managed to sway my lifelong Democrat sister and a brother in law…They too are voting McCain but have no intention of switching parties..:)>-

  14. Lemmy
    September 5, 2008 - 09:17 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Ellis,

    You’re being reasonable and trying to talk sense. That doesn’t fly here. You must bow down to the two-headed god that is McCain-Palin. You must be unwavering in your conviction that all criticism of said god, all facts that belie the claims that said god is a twin “maverick reformer,” and all poll numbers in Obama’s favor are purely the result of an entirely biased and evil media controlled by a left-wing cabal that seeks to surrender the nation to terrorists.

    Honestly, that’s what it sounds like in here. I didn’t believe places (and people and viewpoints) like this actually existed. I had thought that they were a satiric fiction dreamed up liberal bloggers and Jon Stewart.

    It’s been eye-opening, that’s for sure.

  15. Robert
    September 5, 2008 - 09:24 PM on September 5th, 2008

    “You’re being reasonable and trying to talk sense. That doesn’t fly here. You must bow down to the two-headed god that is McCain-Palin.”

    Lemmy are you by any chance the reincarnation of shiloh? Sure sounds like his rhetoric…:o):-b:(|):@)~:>

  16. Lemmy
    September 5, 2008 - 09:24 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Pam,

    If you’re honestly curious about Obama’s record of bipartisan legislation, this should get you started:

    http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

    I see your sister and brother-in-law, and raise you my father, who hasn’t voted Democrat since JFK; two of his Republican friends; the Republican father of another friend of mine; and two old friends of mine who’ve voted Republican for the last three elections. They’re all voting for Obama. Encouraging signs, as are the numerous “Republicans for Obama” bumper stickers I see in my neighborhood. It ought to be an interesting election.

  17. Pam
    September 5, 2008 - 09:46 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Lemmy-

    Ellis and I talk like this..we have a history and this is our version of a debate..relax

    BTW, those same polls that have Obama up by 2 also have a poll out that has 58% of the people in this country agreeing that the MSM has been biased towards Obama. 78% believe that the MSM is purposely negative towards Palin.

    Ellis said that Obama reached across the aisle. Now you are bringing up bills he sponserd. Here is the link that you should be citing:
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d109&querybd=@FIELD(FLD003+@4((@1(Sen+Obama++Barack))+01763))
    or try this: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas
    How many bills sponsored by Obama have been signed into law?
    265 were sponsored, 2 were formally passed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-jCBk4IAFM&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/27/video-how-many-bills-sponsored-by-obama-have-been-signed-into-law/

    He almost
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/271/

    co-sponsored that ethics/earmark bill.
    http://obama.senate.gov/issues/ethics_and_lobbying_reform/

  18. ellis
    September 5, 2008 - 11:45 PM on September 5th, 2008

    Lemmy — I know what this site is about. Four years ago (I haven’t really posted much on a regular basis since then) I was drawn into (down to?) the name calling, rancor, and hyperbole. This time, I’ll post as a reasonable man, or not at all. Why get aggravated.

    I live in the Bible Belt so I know what it’s like to have a belief and feel like a fish out of water. I wait for the Rev Billy Bob to corner me in the market some day to try and talk some sense into the lib who is actually a left leaning (almost fallen?) moderate.

    Dang, now I’m wide awake again … I should have stayed on the sofa. Oh, well.

  19. Robert
    September 6, 2008 - 12:30 AM on September 6th, 2008

    Trying posting something disagreeable on the Daily Pos…you’ll get banned.

  20. PCD
    September 6, 2008 - 09:06 AM on September 6th, 2008

    Ellis, You were disagreeable and often wrong. When cornered about your wrongness, you usually refused to acknowledge being wrong and attacked in other ways. After which, you wondered why people would want to brush your teeth with a tire iron, UNION Education Style.

  21. ellis
    September 6, 2008 - 12:51 PM on September 6th, 2008

    Hii, pcd. Wrong is in the eyes of the beholder in this game. Good to see you.

  22. Democratic Activist
    September 7, 2008 - 01:09 AM on September 7th, 2008

    ellis I am happy to see a fellow traveler in the Progressive Movement. Such have been scarce here lately; only the San Francisco Liberal has attempted to represent the Left and he is way too simple and immature to do an adequate job of jousting with the neocons here!

  23. FrmrArtyOffcr
    September 7, 2008 - 10:41 AM on September 7th, 2008

    I have two reasons to vote for McCain over Obama and neither are rhetoric or have any kinds of lies attached to them.

    The first is the economy. It has gone into a slowdown. It happens, the economy is cyclical. While the Democrats were all able to see how sending out tax rebate checks could stimulate the economy, they seem to be incapable of seeing how lowering the tax rates in the first place will help prevent or at least lessen the depth of a slump. Obama has categorically said he intends to raise tax rates. When questioned about it by a MSM reporter who actually included in the question that increased capital gains rate increases cause revenues to fall, Obama responded with “It’s not about raising revenues, it’s about fairness.” That shows a fundamental lack of understanding when it comes to governmental economics. There is only ONE legitimate reason for taxes, that being to raise revenues for the government to pay for the services it provides. Since it has been historically proven that raising rates reduces revenues, what possible purpose would it serve to raise rates? Is the government swimming in so much surplus money that it can afford to take in less? Or would it make more sense to LOWER RATES which has been historically proven to RAISE REVENUES thereby reducing the deficit that is causing the dollar to lose value worldwide? While other countries are lowering business tax rates to encourage growth, Obama is advocating raising them. An act that has been proven to discourage business growth and cause unemployment.(See Michigan, home of the one state recession) Additionally, in order to be able to pay these assitional taxes, businesses will have to raise prices causing inflation. While inflation is a normal part of the economic cycle and normally can be controlled through interest rate increases, inflation caused by taxation can only be slightly moderated by raising interest rates because it is not a part of the normal free market system. The resulting combination of high inflation, unemployment and interest rates is called STAGFLATION because it stagnates the economy. Obama’s taxation policies are not new, they are simply a rehashing of the disasterous economic policies of the Jimma Carter administration. I lived through that once, I’d rather not have to face it again.

    There is also the issue of Obama’s plans to tax “Big Oil” on their profits. Perhaps someone should explain to Obama or at least the AARP exactly who those “Big Oil” profits go to. Over 65% of “Big Oil’s” profits are paid as dividends to retirement accounts. Perhaps the big unions should take a closer look at how an Obama presidency will cut the funding legs out from under their pension plans. Union and other pension plans own over 40% of the stock in ExxonMobil. If Obama steals (that’s what taxes really are) the profits from ExxonMobil, he’ll be taking them from the union pension plans. At the same time that his corporate tax rate increases will result in heating oil, natural gas, and electricity prices rising. His taxation and wealth redistribution plans are nothing new. They’ve been tried all over the world and been found to be abject failures. His father even advocated 100% taxation rates.

    My second reason for not voting for Obama (I’m not really a big McCain supporter. He ticked me off with his comments following the Illegal Alien Amnesty bill got shot down. His constituents have VERY LOUDLY shown at the ballot box we want illegal aliens shown the door, but he insists on trying to let them off scot free.) is his comments about the military and national security. He has openly stated he wants to found and fund a national security force the size and strength of the US military while cutting military spending dramatically. The national security force idea is ludicrous and costly. Exactly why would we need a million man security force in the US unless there was some intent to have a coup? As for his plan to cut spending to the military, I’ve lived through the result of that type of thinking when I was in the military. Military spending was an extremely LOW priority during the Carter Administration and the Democratically controlled congress during the Reagan one. They refused to appropriate adequate levels of funding for equipment. When I arrived at Ft Carson in February 85, I was supposed to be issued a Kevlar Helmet and body armor. When I left in August, 1987 I still had not been issued either. Why? Because the Congress was allocating so little money for the purchase of body armor that the Rapid deployment forces units’ body armor was reaching its expiration date before enough had been purchased to equip the rest of us. I would never vote for a candidate who will deprive our soldiers of the equipment they need as a cost cutting manuever. Obama has said he intends to do just that. Perhaps someone should tell the family members of service members serving in Iraq and Afghanistan about Obama’s plan to prevent the development of new MRAP vehicles (Mine Resistant, Ambush Protected) that are saving lives almost daily in those two countries. That’s what his proposed cuts in military R&D and procurement will do.

    I will say this much for Obama, he speaks well when reading from a teleprompter. It’s just a shame that he’s on the wrong side of so many issues. The economy of this country could be booming if the government would get out of the way. Instead he wants to turn the US into a workers’ utopia like the former Soviet Union where toilet paper was a luxury.

  24. Robert
    September 7, 2008 - 11:28 AM on September 7th, 2008

    On major issue after another Obama’s position does not logically add up. I have discussed his position on energy. He claims he will achieve energy independence in 10 years by switching to renewables like wind and solar. Either he is utterly, wildly ignorant, insane, or has been suckered by his handlers into parroting that utter nonsense.

    No plan for Energy, let alone independence, can or will succeed without Nuclear power as its centerpiece. Plain and simple and you can take that to the bank. Period, end of discussion, the debate’s over, the science is in!

    Yet Obama and other idiots refuse to utter the N word. It’s really a Litmus test. If you hear ANYONE talking about energy policy and solutions and they don’t include Nuclear energy they are a babbling idiot, a fool, or a propagandist.

    Obama shows with his lack of understanding, his propagandizement, or his just plain refusal to confront reality that on THIS ONE CRITICAL ISSUE ALONE he is not ready for anything close to POTUS.

    Obama being in the Senate is itself depriving some village of a Community Organizer…:))

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