Scroll For Updates: Imagine That: The AP Sees Racism In Palin Calling Obama Out On His Ties To Ayers
The title: Analysis: Palin’s words carry racial tinge
By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is “palling around with terrorists” and doesn’t see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.
And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.
Her reference to Obama’s relationship with William Ayers, a member of the Vietnam-era Weather Underground, was exaggerated at best if not outright false. No evidence shows they were “pals” or even close when they worked on community boards years ago and Ayers hosted a political event for Obama early in his career.
Obama, who was a child when the Weathermen were planting bombs, has denounced Ayers’ radical views and actions.
Unsubstantiated?  Yes, this claim is well much substantiated.  It just goes against the bullshit that the MSM has been shoveling.
- Obama and Ayers: Radical Partnership That Cannot Be Denied
- UPDATED: When Politicians Try To Make Domestic Terrorists Seem Mainstream: Anarchists Attack RNC Busses! UPDATE: Talkleft says “So much for freedom of assembly. Exercising that right in St. Paul apparently results in an arrest for conspiracy to riot.”
- UPDATE (2) “You have thus willfully violated The Free History Project’s intellectual property rights”: UPDATE (1) WITH DOCUMENT DROP:The Unsealed William Ayers/Barack Obama Papers And Why Obama Should Be Worried
Sorry: as the AoSHQ notes, it’s National Review, not “The” National Review. A little point, but then this is a post about inaccuracy in reporting. As above, so below - if you’ll forgive me for going all Hermetic over it.
Anyway, CNN flubbed an article on Palin’s bringing up the perfectly accurate observation that Obama’s been palling about with domestic terrorists by suggesting that National Review - an organization that’s actually been involved in documenting said palling about - had debunked the story. Stanley Kurtz - the guy doing said documentation - blasted them for it. CNN has now corrected the record, thus making the entire paragraph kind of forlorn and sad.
Better luck next time, guys.
So what is it that she said that is racist?
“Our opponent … is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he’s palling around with terrorists who would target their own country,” Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain’s ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.
“This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,” she said. “We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.”
So where is the racism?
Effective character attacks have come earlier in campaigns. In June 1988, Republican George H.W. Bush criticized Democrat Michael Dukakis over the furlough granted to Willie Horton, a convicted murderer who then raped a woman and stabbed her companion. Related TV ads followed in September and October.
Is that it? A 1988 ad that wasn’t racist, but factual? Horton was a cold blooded killer who just happened to be black and represented what was wrong with allowing murderers a weekend furlough..but I digress..let’s get to the racism..
Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?
In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.
Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us” is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.
Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain’s purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright’s sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America’s promise to treat all people equally.
John McCain occasionally looks back on decisions with regret. He has apologized for opposing a holiday to honor Martin Luther King Jr. He has apologized for refusing to call for the removal of a Confederate flag from South Carolina’s Capitol.
Ah ha, so she did not say anything racist
Update: Palin’s not backing down, and neither is Team Maverick:
“The last four weeks of this election will be about whether the American people are willing to turn our economy and national security over to Barack Obama, a man with little record, questionable judgment, and ties to radical figures like unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers. Americans need to ask themselves if they’ve ever befriended an unrepentant terrorist, or had a convicted felon help them buy their house ” because those aren’t smears, those are true facts about Barack Obama.” “Tucker Bounds, spokesman McCain-Palin 2008
Under most circumstances the left is quick to argue against distinguishing between domestic and foreign terrorists, but suddenly the AP finds those distinctions very important indeed. Is the tool who wrote this so underwhelmed by what Ayers did that he can’t conceive of how it might worry voters except in terms of making them think Obama’s a Muslim?
Lots, lots more from Goldstein. Exit question: Why bother with the Ayers stuff anyway? Isn’t there a better use of McCain’s and Palin’s time at this point?
Jeff:
No evidence? Well, Stanley Kurtz and Steve Diamond, two of the only journalists actually interested enough to look into the relationship, would beg to differ about the extent of Obama’s relationship with Ayers ” though in this case, Mr Daniel appears to be playing a semantic game that he knows to be disingenuous, saving his faux outrage for the suggestion that Obama and Ayers are bestest “pals” (which he infers is a charge made by the colloquial “palling around,” with the Alaskan beauty queen suddenly held to lawyerly standards of linguistic precision), while ignoring the real thrust of Governor Palin’s attack: namely, Obama, we have found out, lied about the extent of his relationship with Ayers (Mr. Daniel appears unfazed by Senator Obama’s dishonesty); he has never given an account of his CAC activities, and Ayers’ role in those activities (and has in fact tried to keep Kurtz and other journalists from telling their stories, issuing “action alerts” directing supporters to try to shout down his critics).
That “no evidence shows they were “pals” or even close when they worked on community boards years ago and Ayers hosted a political event for Obama early in his career” is, therefore, a rhetorical dodge ” one that really begs the question: what Mr Daniel intentionally brackets from his overview is the very real possibility that the lack of “evidence” of the kind that might convince him (others are indeed convinced, including a mutual friend of Ayers and Obama, and have repeatedly shown their work) is the result of a failure on the part of the mainstream press to investigate the connection with the same tenacity with which they went after Governor Palin’s tanning bed, or Bristol Palin’s baby daddy’s facebook page.
So what begins with a lack of professionalism on the part of the press ” and the defensive rationalization that nearly always follows from those who know they’ve been called out for blatant favoritism and a willingness to carry water for their chosen One ” quickly turns to the old Stanley Fish technique of projecting dark, coded “meanings” to what are, on their face, already straightforward accusations on the part of Palin (and, before her, McCain himself).
The FACT that Obama has close ties to an AVOWED American domestic terrorist has absolutely nothing whatever to do with race. It has everything to do with Obama’s terrible judgment. Obama isn’t being at all attacked for being “black” with this exposure of his ties to Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers.
There is also nestled in this story another bit of spin that has become the media’s excuse making for Obama’s ties to Ayers. (My bold for emphasis)
Obama, who was a child when the Weathermen were planting bombs, has denounced Ayers’ radical views and actions.
What does Obama’s age during the 1960s have to do with anything at all? Is it impossible for a person to accept and adopt the views of anyone that perpetrated crimes when that person was a child? Can 30-somethings of today not like music of the 1960’s because they were but children when that music was fresh, for instance? And what does that say about adopting the views of people from before one’s birth? Does that mean that anyone that claims to be a Nazi can’t be one because they weren’t alive during Hitler’s reign? For that matter, it might make being a follower of Jesus or Muhammad quite impossible. After all, who is still alive when those men were around?
Obama’s age during the time that Ayers was trying to murder people is immaterial when discussing Obama’s bad judgment in choosing that person, even though much more aged, as a close associate. Or are these Old Media types trying to say that Ayres’ murderous intent is OK after all this time? Does time excuse murder?
Michelle has more
Putting the “Ass” in “Associated Press,” one of the wire service’s Obama water-carriers attempts to smear Sarah Palin as a racist for spotlighting Barack Obama’s longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers
CNN Ignores Bernardine Dohrn’s Terrorist Past While Defending Obama
The mainstream media is going through another one of their meltdown moments as they rush to defend Barack Obama from his relationship with American terrorists William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. (plural)
John Stephenson of Newsbusters detailed CNN’s supposed fact check that came in response to a speech that Sarah Palin gave. In that speech Palin did the job the mainstream media refuses to do by mentioning the words terrorists, relationships and Barack Obama in a single sentence while referring to the former Weather Underground leaders.
In rushing to Barack Obama’s defense CNN slipped the following into the end of their fact check:
The McCain campaign did not respond Saturday to a request for elaboration on Palin’s use of the plural “terrorists.”
Well excuse me, but why should they? If CNN doesn’t know that Bernardine Dohrn was a leader of the Weather Underground while they were bombing federal buildings and police stations why should the McCain campaign give CNN the legitimacy of a real news organization by providing a response?
Ayers Was on Woods Fund Board with Obama When He Stepped on Flag
Barack Obama was much older than 8 when William Ayers was photographed stepping on a US flag in 2001, for an article in which Ayers said he had “No Regrets” for his violent actions in the Weather Underground.
In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together: PolitiFact | Obama served on board with Ayers.
Deborah Harrington, president of the Woods Fund, a philanthropic organization in Chicago, said Obama was a director from 1994 through 2001. That overlaps Ayers’ time as a director by three years. It also means Obama served with Ayers for the final months of 2001, after Ayers made his comments to the New York Times.
NY Times Confirms Ayers’ Role in Obama Appointment as Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
I can easily understand why some readers may have become confused by the explosion of stories today on the Obama/Ayers relationship.
The partial story of the Ayers/Obama relationship told by the New York Times today is collapsing of its own weight but has likely added to the confusion. Since I am one of the “bloggers” referred to without an explanation in the Times’ story I thought I would summarize the top ten highlights of the current state of play.
It turns out as these ten key points confirm what I have argued all along - that Bill Ayers was responsible for the elevation of Obama to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge board and the New York Times reporting on this story actually supports my conclusion, though inadvertently.
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- Tsunami of a backlash | Think Forward
- McCain Deserves To Lose, Pt. 2 : Pursuing Holiness
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October 5, 2008 - 11:26 AM on October 5th, 2008
I won’t address the racism allegation because it is an interpretation. However, why persist in this false guilt by association? You do understand, don’t you, that guilt by association is the flimsiest of arguments?
What remains, and you know it, is that neither Palin nor McCain can carry forward on the strength of their own characters nor do they have concrete, explainable solutions to our country’s current number of crises. Consequently, their advisors have decided to replay discredited info about Obama and Ayers. My earnest prayer is that you to look for the interconnections we, in fact, all share. I also urge you to read Mr. Ayers book, Fugitive Days, to try to grasp exactly why Mr. Ayers and millions of others in the 60s felt the way they did. You cannot re-write history. Mr. Ayer actions were an expression of how many people felt at the time. G. Gordon Liddy has himself told us, “There was a civil war going on at the time and we won.” Try to think about that.
One thing you should know is that the majority of the Weatherman had their cases thrown out of court because of the illegal procedures used by the FBI and various police organizations in their attempts to obtain damning information.
Then try to remember that Ayers and Dorne turned themselves in to the authorities, fully prepared to face the consequences of their actions. You never mention these facts. We are not all stupid, sir.
October 5, 2008 - 11:43 AM on October 5th, 2008
That article itself reeks of unpaid political advertising for the Obama campaign, Palin’s campaign is “faltering”? Really? We’ll see on Nov. 4, you AP propagandist shills.
AP had sunk to the level of a propaganda organ long ago. Just the wording of their releases, the quantity of those favorable to Leftists, the choice of topics, and the omission of contrary information. AP has zero value and integrity.
October 5, 2008 - 12:31 PM on October 5th, 2008
[...] lot more to it than Obama would like people to know about. Of course the MSM is doing their best to discredit her by calling her a [...]
October 5, 2008 - 01:53 PM on October 5th, 2008
Well Helen, you are pretty stupid.
October 5, 2008 - 02:34 PM on October 5th, 2008
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October 5, 2008 - 03:55 PM on October 5th, 2008
“What remains, and you know it, is that neither Palin nor McCain can carry forward on the strength of their own characters nor do they have concrete, explainable solutions to our country’s current number of crises.”
Yes, actually, they do.
October 5, 2008 - 05:56 PM on October 5th, 2008
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October 5, 2008 - 05:57 PM on October 5th, 2008
There you go again. Sounds like Reagan. Except in this case I mean that you guys can’t compete on issues, so the negatives are piling up again. Problem is, the American people aren’t stupid, and won’t fall for it again. Palin has run her course - clearly not ready for prime time - and only good to deliver a zinger (is a wink appropriately vice-presidential or a sexy effort to sway men?) or a response that has been scripted. Oh, you ask about Pakistan? I’m not going to answer that, but I can tell you about energy refunds every man, woman, and child in AK are getting. What was that wine that went out of favor in San Francisco? Palin Syrah? Oh, yes. Just like the humanoid — a flash in the pan.
Enough of this. The obvious fact, as stated, is that you can’t compete on the issues, and the voters see it.
October 5, 2008 - 06:06 PM on October 5th, 2008
Let’s take a look at two contemporary major issues:
1. Energy: McCain Palin have a reasonable, workable plan. Obama and the Democrites have nothing; they are obstructionists, they are failures.
2. The Financial meltdown: If not largely caused, then certainly presided over by leading Democrites (Barney Frank, for example). Palin already has an established record of fighting corruption; Obama has a record of benefitting from it. McCain/Palin hands down.
So, Ellis, you were saying?
October 5, 2008 - 06:08 PM on October 5th, 2008
It’s understandable the AP (AntiAmerican Propagandists) would see this as racist; it’s already been proclaimed that any opposition to Obama, any attack, even any questioning of his position is RACISM!
In fact, all who do not vote for Osama bin Obama are racists!
October 5, 2008 - 06:18 PM on October 5th, 2008
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October 5, 2008 - 07:30 PM on October 5th, 2008
8 years of failure. It all adds up to financial meltdown, failed domestic and foreign policies, and lots of nothing. And all McCain spouts is 4 more. As I said, you can’t compete on the issues so you go negative. I note you didn’t refute that. I’ve watched over the last 3-4 weeks without commenting as you guys posted a lot about nothing, and certainly not on issues. Ciao.
October 5, 2008 - 07:36 PM on October 5th, 2008
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October 5, 2008 - 07:46 PM on October 5th, 2008
Troopergate … oh, it was quashed by McCain’s chronies and handlers. Didn’t the gov who fights all that is bad (did she wink today?) agree to full cooperation in the investigation? So much for one’s word and honor. Chopping you guys up,getting under your skin is so easy. My experience is that’s what happens when someone has no leg to stand on; they go negative, defensive and continually erratic.
October 5, 2008 - 10:32 PM on October 5th, 2008
Palin is a blundering idiot that the republicans are stuffing full of facts and figures-wasn’t it obvious at the debate? Sure she is attractive,but are men really that stupid? Her comments about Obama and Ayers simply shows that the McCain campaign is in a hole and now they are going to throw everything negative regardless of the truth of matter out there- hoping to fool the American voters. Well American’s have wised up and as someone who lives in a military town(Ft.Bragg) and has yet to see McCain visit-but has seen Barack Obama SEVERAL times in my city as well as MANY others within my state–I am confident in my vote for OBAMA!
October 5, 2008 - 10:59 PM on October 5th, 2008
Hey, Pam - your level of discourse is pathetic. If you want to take Helen on for the issues she raises in her post, go for it. But to resort to simple name calling? Who would do that? Oh … right. Republicans.
October 5, 2008 - 11:25 PM on October 5th, 2008
Ayers should file a libel suit for defamation of character by Gov. Palin.
October 5, 2008 - 11:34 PM on October 5th, 2008
This is quite shameful. People who vote against Obama should do so because they disagree with his policies, not because of this fictional association with “terrorists”. I honestly didn’t think McCain would stoop to swift-boating. I’ve lost a bit of respect for the man. Even if the tactic does work, can he live with himself?
October 5, 2008 - 11:39 PM on October 5th, 2008
LOL, people sure are funny. First of all the disaster that has occured over the last year or so was instantiated in 1938 when Fannie Mae was created by the US Government. Second of all, a good part of the financial meltdown was the loss of jobs. What has the Republican party done to hurt jobs? What did Hillary your love bunny say? Oh wait, she said NAFTA!
Why ignore how Senator Biden felt about Obama a few months ago? Why ignore his words “I would be HONORED to be Senator McCain’s running mate”?
Wake up America, the smears have been going on for years! Not only that, rewind to previous debates and listen to the former Presidents Bush and Clinton as well as those that didn’t win like John Kerry and Michael Dukakis ignore questions and stick to topics they wanted to cover (note, nobody thinks THEY were avoiding questions).
THEY ALL DO IT, so remember when you point your finger at any in an accusation, 3 are pointing back at you!
October 6, 2008 - 01:21 AM on October 6th, 2008
A) I understand that the AP leans liberal which is unacceptable, but then again Fox News is a worthless sham that fuels a much more devious and misleading propaganda machine. One that ruthlessly controls the hearts and minds of honest, hardworking Americans
B) Free market, capitalist ideas work, but are prone to some of the same faults as say, communism. A free market cannot be upheld in its truest form because of human error. Currently, when the market is good, fat cats get rich, when the market is down, fat cats stay rich and take no responsibility for their losses. Close government oversight is absolutely necessary if we are to maintain a capitalist system, which is making sure the capitalist system is not abused. McCain doesn’t understand our economy, and although he’s a good man. He is terribly mislead by his advisors (Bush anyone?). In the long run, McCain’s plan will actually make our debt worse by 2018 than Obama’s plan (Look it up!)…. and please stop sending ads scaring the people that obama is going to tax them, because last I checked, most of us do not make over 250,000… AND even his raise in taxes will be lower than during the regean years (who started his presidency with a tax cut, only to raise taxes higher than before the cut, because he didn’t know what was going on)
C)Palin is slap in the face of every American. Like bringing on the head cheerleader to win a high school student body election. McCain is a great Patriot, but choosing Palin shows that he is past his prime (wish he was president in 2000 tho). Palin has no record, and i’m interested in seeing what comes of troopergate… the investigation started long before Palin was the vice presidential candidate, and it should confirm the belief that she is incapable of leading
D)Robert, simply judging by your “Osama bin Obama” comment, it’s clear that although the AP may have made something out of nothing, it’s people like you that force our mainstream media to be so politically correct.
E) Finally, we should examine his association with Ayers… It’s actually not as offensive as one would think. Don’t read a politically motivated account.. just write down the facts on a piece of paper, you’ll soon realized that based on these allegations, anyone could be tied to anybody simply by virtue of working at the same place
October 6, 2008 - 06:18 AM on October 6th, 2008
Flotsam,
That was all her stupidity warranted.
October 6, 2008 - 06:19 AM on October 6th, 2008
Deni-
That would be hilarious. Ayers doesn’t deny anything. In fact, he says they didn’t do enough.
October 6, 2008 - 06:22 AM on October 6th, 2008
Dev-
What is fictional about his Ayers relationship? Being friends with cop killers is a question of judgment and character.
October 6, 2008 - 06:35 AM on October 6th, 2008
Kush,
The POTUS called for sticter regulations/oversite and was rebuffed. When Nancy got caught with a looming disaster on her hands, she blamed Bush. He has a paper/audio trail where he called for more oversite (17 times)
We have an audio trail of the Democrats saying all was fine..just months before the 2004 accounting scandal at Fannie. No one is saying there shouldn’t be regulation, except for those in Congress with political reason to keep their donations flowing or their lovers happy.
Palin is not a slap in the face to anyone that wants reform in government. You obviously go along with talking points and are not in the habit of actually studying a subject for yourself.
We have examined his association with Ayers and it is repulsive. Obama knew who Ayers was and what he still stands for, and yet chose to work on the Annenberg Challenge Board with him. Obama chose to allow Ayers to throw a party in his name…those were choices, not forced meetings or 2 ships passing in the night.
October 6, 2008 - 07:31 AM on October 6th, 2008
CNN and Time
You do these incomplete and slanted fact checks and then tell the voter what to think. You make me sick!!! The media bias may elect Obama but we will not forget what you are doing.
We know you are only telling the part of the story that fits into your agenda.
Everyone knows this election will be close and what will you do when about half of the county turns agains CNN and Time?
October 6, 2008 - 10:35 AM on October 6th, 2008
Pam,
you’re correct in that no one disagrees with the idea that there should be no regulation… however, with a lifetime history of favoring deregulation, will McCain be able to adapt to today’s needs? Perhaps, as he is a qualified candidate, however, it is clear that Obama represents the side of the coin that will mostly be able to handle the current problem
Yes it would be suspicious if one were to magnify a single aspect of Obama’s life and then extrapolate conclusions. However, let’s paint a broader picture which includes his association with not only the Chicago Annenberg Challenge but also with The Woods Fund of Chicago, The Joyce Foundation, The Chicago Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Right Under Law, The Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center. From this we can conclude that the “community organizer” title that republicans so often chastise represents a solemn attempt to improve our society. His decision was to work with Ayers represents a little or nothing in the broader picture… concerning Ayers, his decision to be involved with domestic terrorism was wrong and I would never argue the morality of his past, however, he was part of a larger anti-Vietnam moment. One that was a positive, defining moment in our history, where the people of the United States stood up together and fought for a cause. Ayers represents an extreme in action that no one should condone, however, let’s not diminish ideological foundation from which his beliefs came….. Think big picture
I can argue about Palin’s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES… She and Orwell need to have a talk)… all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn’t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn’t cut the construction budget in half)… to her platform that won her seat as governor to “clean up government” when “troopergate” hardly qualifies as clean up…. Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president… the answer is clear: “what were they thinking?”
October 6, 2008 - 10:48 AM on October 6th, 2008
“Ayers should file a libel suit for defamation of character by Gov. Palin.”
An unrepentant domestic terrorist, who now only states he wish he had done more, and you use the word character? Libel?

The above may be the idiot statement of the year. It is certainly in the running.
“I can argue about Palin’s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES: She and Orwell need to have a talk): all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn’t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn’t cut the construction budget in half): to her platform that won her seat as governor to “clean up government”when “troopergate”hardly qualifies as clean up:. Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president: the answer is clear: “what were they thinking?—
This is a compendium of the MSM’s manufactured smears against Palin. You know why people like Palin? Because she’s a real person, not some lawyer or professional political hack. She has a real record of real accomplishment. If you don’t understand that by now, you never will.
Barack Saddam Hussein Osama bin Obama could never get a security clearance, and has never even proven he’s eligible to be POTUS (US Citizenship). He also is the choice of the terrorists for POTUS (yes, it’s true). Can you imagine that? When our enemy in wartime endorses a candidate and people will still vote for that candidate?
The Fuhrer would like to see Klaus Barbie defeat Roosevelt! So people, vote for Klaus!
Emperor Hirohito endorses Tokyo Rose for American President! Woo hoo, let’s vote for Rose!
That’s arguably very similar, Dope-ocrats! Or with Obama as their candidate, I have a new name for Democrats:
Demuuuhhhhcrats. Or how about: Dem uhhh, umm, you know umm crats.
Liberalism is indeed a form of mental illness…
October 6, 2008 - 10:54 AM on October 6th, 2008
Wow, looking at this topic it seems like we got another wave of professional posters again. They come and go, hit and run.
The only thing I am curious about is how they get paid. By the hour? By the post?
October 6, 2008 - 11:43 AM on October 6th, 2008
Kush and others, how could the relationship be just a passing, work related relationship when Ayers financed a campain function for Obama? Perhaps he saw Obama as a charitable entity? I don’t know and never will know for sure but I suspect they were more than related through a common “employer”, remember, they did share the role of director within the same time frame.
On another note in which we all seem to have missed or conveniently ignored, both parties have now shown they can’t be trusted on their word. I seem to remember both parties stating that they were going to have clean non-mud slinging campains this year.
Before you say, why shouldn’t one do so if the other does… think about how childish that response is in regard to the age of these men. Funny, the answer these candidates would give mom when she asked if “Johnny were to jump off a bridge, would you follow?”. Obama would answer, no, I would try to find a higher bridge just to out do him”. This is also true in reverse for the McCain camp.
And although I do indeed support conservatives, this comment as been about as bi-partisan you can get.
October 6, 2008 - 11:53 AM on October 6th, 2008
Look, none of this matters. The only thing that matters is Sen. Obama is the only real hope and change! When I hear these right wingers bringing up all this nonsense, I just cover my ears and yell Lalalalalalalalalalalala until they stop. Senator Obama is so articulate, he is such a great speaker how can anyone doubt he is magnificent!
So right wingers, stop with your ridiculous facts and history lessons. None of it matters. We love Obama and thats all there is to it. And dont forget when we have taken over you will have to answer to us for your actions. If you want to have anything at all you better get on the Obama bandwagon now.
October 6, 2008 - 11:55 AM on October 6th, 2008
Sorry for the typos in my previous post folks…
October 6, 2008 - 12:40 PM on October 6th, 2008
Scary Lenny, for many reasons. We the people will have to answer to you? How so? Scary due to the fact that thousands more are out of jobs when a state run healthcare plan goes into effect due to the healthcare system no longer being profitable, instantiating research.
You want to talk about change, look at what happened last week, was the current president able to dictate change (change which the Democrats LOVED because the 700b bailout package is BIG government)? No he was not able to make the decision himself but had to get the support of the house and congress. That being said, who is responsible for the failures of the last two years?
None other than the group claiming they can bring change… sounds rather familiar if you go back and listen to the campain promises of the Democratic Senators and Representatives prior to taking control of the House and the Senate doesn’t it? Well tell me, did they change anything other than steroids?
For the record, tell me how being a great speaker = action? You can blow your hole until the end of time. Without action they are just more meaningless words. Look back in history and look at how many other leaders had magnificent speeches only to lead their people into disaster (James Jones for one).
October 6, 2008 - 07:17 PM on October 6th, 2008
To “Robert”: Whoever you are, for your slanderous insult of Barack Obama’s name, you would be put into a Gulag in the Progressive future we envision! I am telling you this mostly as a courtesy (more than you deserve) so you have time to atone for your blasphemy and seek forgiveness.
October 6, 2008 - 07:32 PM on October 6th, 2008
Let’s settle this nonsense about Obama’s associations once and for all. Yes, in the past he has associated with people who are not mainstream. In this great work as a Community Organizer, of course since he worked among the poor and disenfranchised, there were undoubtedly some who had criminal records. Likely much of it was due to racism, but I’ll admit that they could still be termed “criminals”. Ayers was, as someone pointed out, a force for change. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette (I just made that up). The point is, in his unselfish quest to help people, to help humanity come into the mainstream, of course he had contact with people who are members of societal subcultures.
So what? I’ll tell you what. Who did Jesus associate with? Criminals and prostitutes, NOT the rich or the middle class. His ministry was to the poor, the disenfranchised, yes the criminals, those forced into criminality by oppression! Similarly, Obama’s virtual Ministry of Hope has reached out to the most unfortunate, the most oppressed, the most disenfranchised!
So that’s enough of the garbage. Like Jesus, Obama’s work is far too important to stand for any more of the nonsense! We are taking notes, and those who engage in this blasphemy will be held to account in the Progressive future we are building!