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	<title>Comments on: Scroll For Updates:  Imagine That: The AP Sees Racism In Palin Calling Obama Out On His Ties To Ayers</title>
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	<description>in all matter of opinion, our adversaries are insane.</description>
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		<title>By: Democratic Activist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democratic Activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s settle this nonsense about Obama&#039;s associations once and for all. Yes, in the past he has associated with people who are not mainstream. In this great work as a Community Organizer, of course since he worked among the poor and disenfranchised, there were undoubtedly some who had criminal records. Likely much of it was due to racism, but I&#039;ll admit that they could still be termed &quot;criminals&quot;. Ayers was, as someone pointed out, a force for change. Sometimes you have to  break a few eggs to make an omelette (I just made that up). The point is, in his unselfish quest to help people, to help humanity come into the mainstream, of course he had contact with people who are members of societal subcultures. 

So what? I&#039;ll tell you what. Who did Jesus associate with? Criminals and prostitutes, NOT the rich or the middle class. His ministry was to the poor, the disenfranchised, yes the criminals, those forced into criminality by oppression! Similarly, Obama&#039;s virtual Ministry of Hope has reached out to the most unfortunate, the most oppressed, the most disenfranchised! 

So that&#039;s enough of the garbage. Like Jesus, Obama&#039;s work is far too important to stand for any more of the nonsense! We are taking notes, and those who engage in this blasphemy will be held to account in the Progressive future we are building!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s settle this nonsense about Obama&#8217;s associations once and for all. Yes, in the past he has associated with people who are not mainstream. In this great work as a Community Organizer, of course since he worked among the poor and disenfranchised, there were undoubtedly some who had criminal records. Likely much of it was due to racism, but I&#8217;ll admit that they could still be termed &#8220;criminals&#8221;. Ayers was, as someone pointed out, a force for change. Sometimes you have to  break a few eggs to make an omelette (I just made that up). The point is, in his unselfish quest to help people, to help humanity come into the mainstream, of course he had contact with people who are members of societal subcultures. </p>
<p>So what? I&#8217;ll tell you what. Who did Jesus associate with? Criminals and prostitutes, NOT the rich or the middle class. His ministry was to the poor, the disenfranchised, yes the criminals, those forced into criminality by oppression! Similarly, Obama&#8217;s virtual Ministry of Hope has reached out to the most unfortunate, the most oppressed, the most disenfranchised! </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s enough of the garbage. Like Jesus, Obama&#8217;s work is far too important to stand for any more of the nonsense! We are taking notes, and those who engage in this blasphemy will be held to account in the Progressive future we are building!</p>
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		<title>By: Democratic Activist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Democratic Activist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 01:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Robert&quot;: Whoever you are, for your slanderous insult of Barack Obama&#039;s name, you would be put into a Gulag in the Progressive future we envision! I am telling you this mostly as a courtesy (more than you deserve) so you have time to atone for your blasphemy and seek forgiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Robert&#8221;: Whoever you are, for your slanderous insult of Barack Obama&#8217;s name, you would be put into a Gulag in the Progressive future we envision! I am telling you this mostly as a courtesy (more than you deserve) so you have time to atone for your blasphemy and seek forgiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary Lenny, for many reasons. We the people will have to answer to you? How so? Scary due to the fact that thousands more are out of jobs when a state run healthcare plan goes into effect due to the healthcare system no longer being profitable, instantiating research.
You want to talk about change, look at what happened last week, was the current president able to dictate change (change which the Democrats LOVED because the 700b bailout package is BIG government)? No he was not able to make the decision himself but had to get the support of the house and congress. That being said, who is responsible for the failures of the last two years?
None other than the group claiming they can bring change... sounds rather familiar if you go back and listen to the campain promises of the Democratic Senators and Representatives prior to taking control of the House and the Senate doesn&#039;t it? Well tell me, did they change anything other than steroids?
For the record, tell me how being a great speaker = action? You can blow your hole until the end of time. Without action they are just more meaningless words. Look back in history and look at how many other leaders had magnificent speeches only to lead their people into disaster (James Jones for one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary Lenny, for many reasons. We the people will have to answer to you? How so? Scary due to the fact that thousands more are out of jobs when a state run healthcare plan goes into effect due to the healthcare system no longer being profitable, instantiating research.<br />
You want to talk about change, look at what happened last week, was the current president able to dictate change (change which the Democrats LOVED because the 700b bailout package is BIG government)? No he was not able to make the decision himself but had to get the support of the house and congress. That being said, who is responsible for the failures of the last two years?<br />
None other than the group claiming they can bring change&#8230; sounds rather familiar if you go back and listen to the campain promises of the Democratic Senators and Representatives prior to taking control of the House and the Senate doesn&#8217;t it? Well tell me, did they change anything other than steroids?<br />
For the record, tell me how being a great speaker = action? You can blow your hole until the end of time. Without action they are just more meaningless words. Look back in history and look at how many other leaders had magnificent speeches only to lead their people into disaster (James Jones for one).</p>
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		<title>By: Greg C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the typos in my previous post folks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the typos in my previous post folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, none of this matters. The only thing that matters is Sen. Obama is the only real hope and change! When I hear these right wingers bringing up all this nonsense, I just cover my ears and  yell Lalalalalalalalalalalala until they stop. Senator Obama is so articulate, he is such a great speaker how can anyone doubt he is magnificent!

So right wingers, stop with your ridiculous facts and history lessons. None of it matters. We love Obama and thats all there is to it. And dont forget when we have taken over you will have to answer to us for your actions. If you want to have anything at all you better get on the Obama bandwagon now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, none of this matters. The only thing that matters is Sen. Obama is the only real hope and change! When I hear these right wingers bringing up all this nonsense, I just cover my ears and  yell Lalalalalalalalalalalala until they stop. Senator Obama is so articulate, he is such a great speaker how can anyone doubt he is magnificent!</p>
<p>So right wingers, stop with your ridiculous facts and history lessons. None of it matters. We love Obama and thats all there is to it. And dont forget when we have taken over you will have to answer to us for your actions. If you want to have anything at all you better get on the Obama bandwagon now.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kush and others, how could the relationship be just a passing, work related relationship when Ayers financed a campain function for Obama? Perhaps he saw Obama as a charitable entity? I don&#039;t know and never will know for sure but I suspect they were more than related through a common &quot;employer&quot;, remember, they did share the role of director within the same time frame.
On another note in which we all seem to have missed or conveniently ignored, both parties have now shown they can&#039;t be trusted on their word. I seem to remember both parties stating that they were going to have clean non-mud slinging campains this year.
Before you say, why shouldn&#039;t one do so if the other does... think about how childish that response is in regard to the age of these men. Funny, the answer these candidates would give mom when she asked if &quot;Johnny were to jump off a bridge, would you follow?&quot;. Obama would answer, no, I would try to find a higher bridge just to out do him&quot;. This is also true in reverse for the McCain camp.
And although I do indeed support conservatives, this comment as been about as bi-partisan you can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kush and others, how could the relationship be just a passing, work related relationship when Ayers financed a campain function for Obama? Perhaps he saw Obama as a charitable entity? I don&#8217;t know and never will know for sure but I suspect they were more than related through a common &#8220;employer&#8221;, remember, they did share the role of director within the same time frame.<br />
On another note in which we all seem to have missed or conveniently ignored, both parties have now shown they can&#8217;t be trusted on their word. I seem to remember both parties stating that they were going to have clean non-mud slinging campains this year.<br />
Before you say, why shouldn&#8217;t one do so if the other does&#8230; think about how childish that response is in regard to the age of these men. Funny, the answer these candidates would give mom when she asked if &#8220;Johnny were to jump off a bridge, would you follow?&#8221;. Obama would answer, no, I would try to find a higher bridge just to out do him&#8221;. This is also true in reverse for the McCain camp.<br />
And although I do indeed support conservatives, this comment as been about as bi-partisan you can get.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, looking at this topic it seems like we got another wave of professional posters again. They come and go, hit and run. 

The only thing I am curious about is how they get paid. By the hour? By the post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, looking at this topic it seems like we got another wave of professional posters again. They come and go, hit and run. </p>
<p>The only thing I am curious about is how they get paid. By the hour? By the post?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ayers should file a libel suit for defamation of character by Gov. Palin.&quot;

An unrepentant domestic terrorist, who now only states he wish he had done more, and you use the word character? Libel? =))=))=)) The above may be the idiot statement of the year. It is certainly in the running.

&quot;I can argue about Palin&#039;s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES: She and Orwell need to have a talk): all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn&#039;t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn&#039;t cut the construction budget in half): to her platform that won her seat as governor to &quot;clean up government&quot;when &quot;troopergate&quot;hardly qualifies as clean up:. Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president: the answer is clear: &quot;what were they thinking?â€&quot;

This is a compendium of the MSM&#039;s manufactured smears against Palin. You know why people like Palin? Because she&#039;s a real person, not some lawyer or professional political hack. She has a real record of real accomplishment. If you don&#039;t understand that by now, you never will.

Barack Saddam Hussein Osama bin Obama could never get a security clearance, and has never even proven he&#039;s eligible to be POTUS (US Citizenship). He also is the choice of the terrorists for POTUS (yes, it&#039;s true). Can you imagine that? When  our enemy in wartime endorses a candidate and people will still vote for that candidate?

The Fuhrer would like to see Klaus Barbie defeat Roosevelt! So people, vote for Klaus!

Emperor Hirohito endorses Tokyo Rose for American President! Woo hoo, let&#039;s vote for Rose!

That&#039;s arguably very similar, Dope-ocrats!  Or with Obama as their candidate, I have a new name for Democrats:

Demuuuhhhhcrats. Or how about: Dem  uhhh, umm, you know umm crats.    =))   =))   =)) 

Liberalism is indeed a form of mental illness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ayers should file a libel suit for defamation of character by Gov. Palin.&#8221;</p>
<p>An unrepentant domestic terrorist, who now only states he wish he had done more, and you use the word character? Libel? =))=))=)) The above may be the idiot statement of the year. It is certainly in the running.</p>
<p>&#8220;I can argue about Palin&#8217;s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES: She and Orwell need to have a talk): all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn&#8217;t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn&#8217;t cut the construction budget in half): to her platform that won her seat as governor to &#8220;clean up government&#8221;when &#8220;troopergate&#8221;hardly qualifies as clean up:. Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president: the answer is clear: &#8220;what were they thinking?â€&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a compendium of the MSM&#8217;s manufactured smears against Palin. You know why people like Palin? Because she&#8217;s a real person, not some lawyer or professional political hack. She has a real record of real accomplishment. If you don&#8217;t understand that by now, you never will.</p>
<p>Barack Saddam Hussein Osama bin Obama could never get a security clearance, and has never even proven he&#8217;s eligible to be POTUS (US Citizenship). He also is the choice of the terrorists for POTUS (yes, it&#8217;s true). Can you imagine that? When  our enemy in wartime endorses a candidate and people will still vote for that candidate?</p>
<p>The Fuhrer would like to see Klaus Barbie defeat Roosevelt! So people, vote for Klaus!</p>
<p>Emperor Hirohito endorses Tokyo Rose for American President! Woo hoo, let&#8217;s vote for Rose!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s arguably very similar, Dope-ocrats!  Or with Obama as their candidate, I have a new name for Democrats:</p>
<p>Demuuuhhhhcrats. Or how about: Dem  uhhh, umm, you know umm crats.    =))   =))   =)) </p>
<p>Liberalism is indeed a form of mental illness&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam,
you&#039;re correct in that no one disagrees with the idea that there should be no regulation... however, with a lifetime history of favoring deregulation, will McCain be able to adapt to today&#039;s needs? Perhaps, as he is a qualified candidate, however, it is clear that Obama represents the side of the coin that will mostly be able to handle the current problem

Yes it would be suspicious if one were to magnify a single aspect of Obama&#039;s life and then extrapolate conclusions. However, let&#039;s paint a broader picture which includes his association with not only the Chicago Annenberg Challenge but also with  The Woods Fund of Chicago, The Joyce Foundation, The Chicago Lawyers&#039; Committee for Civil Right Under Law, The Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center. From this we can conclude that the &quot;community organizer&quot; title that republicans so often chastise represents a solemn attempt to improve our society. His decision was to work with Ayers represents a little or nothing in the broader picture... concerning Ayers, his decision to be involved with domestic terrorism was wrong and I would never argue the morality of his past, however, he was part of a larger anti-Vietnam moment. One that was a positive, defining moment in our history, where the people of the United States stood up together and fought for a cause. Ayers represents an extreme in action that no one should condone, however, let&#039;s not diminish ideological foundation from which his beliefs came..... Think big picture

I can argue about Palin&#039;s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES... She and Orwell need to have a talk)... all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn&#039;t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn&#039;t cut the construction budget in half)... to her platform that won her seat as governor to &quot;clean up government&quot; when  &quot;troopergate&quot; hardly qualifies as clean up.... Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president... the answer is clear: &quot;what were they thinking?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam,<br />
you&#8217;re correct in that no one disagrees with the idea that there should be no regulation&#8230; however, with a lifetime history of favoring deregulation, will McCain be able to adapt to today&#8217;s needs? Perhaps, as he is a qualified candidate, however, it is clear that Obama represents the side of the coin that will mostly be able to handle the current problem</p>
<p>Yes it would be suspicious if one were to magnify a single aspect of Obama&#8217;s life and then extrapolate conclusions. However, let&#8217;s paint a broader picture which includes his association with not only the Chicago Annenberg Challenge but also with  The Woods Fund of Chicago, The Joyce Foundation, The Chicago Lawyers&#8217; Committee for Civil Right Under Law, The Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center. From this we can conclude that the &#8220;community organizer&#8221; title that republicans so often chastise represents a solemn attempt to improve our society. His decision was to work with Ayers represents a little or nothing in the broader picture&#8230; concerning Ayers, his decision to be involved with domestic terrorism was wrong and I would never argue the morality of his past, however, he was part of a larger anti-Vietnam moment. One that was a positive, defining moment in our history, where the people of the United States stood up together and fought for a cause. Ayers represents an extreme in action that no one should condone, however, let&#8217;s not diminish ideological foundation from which his beliefs came&#8230;.. Think big picture</p>
<p>I can argue about Palin&#8217;s career all day. From her first term as a dictatorial mayor when she fired a police chief and tried to fire a librarian (for arguing against censorship in LIBRARIES&#8230; She and Orwell need to have a talk)&#8230; all the way to her taking over 400 million in what was deemed as transportation funds (because she couldn&#8217;t get the money if it was labeled for a bridge and not a cent of which she gave back which she should have if she was really against overspending, then again, she would have had more money if she didn&#8217;t cut the construction budget in half)&#8230; to her platform that won her seat as governor to &#8220;clean up government&#8221; when  &#8220;troopergate&#8221; hardly qualifies as clean up&#8230;. Ultimately, the easiest way to put it is to ask ourselves what scholars will say about Palin 20 or 30 years from now if she were to be vice-president&#8230; the answer is clear: &#8220;what were they thinking?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: PLH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PLH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN and Time

You do these incomplete and slanted fact checks and then tell the voter what to think.  You make me sick!!!  The media bias may elect Obama but we will not forget what you are doing. 

We know you are only telling the part of the story that fits into your agenda.  

Everyone knows this election will be close and what will you do when about half of the county turns agains CNN and Time?</description>
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<p>You do these incomplete and slanted fact checks and then tell the voter what to think.  You make me sick!!!  The media bias may elect Obama but we will not forget what you are doing. </p>
<p>We know you are only telling the part of the story that fits into your agenda.  </p>
<p>Everyone knows this election will be close and what will you do when about half of the county turns agains CNN and Time?</p>
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