'B' CARVED INTO 20-YEAR OLD WOMAN'S FACE... DEVELOPING...
A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim’s car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter “B” into her face, Richard said.Richard said the woman refused medical treatment after the assault, which happened outside the view of the bank’s surveillance cameras.The robber is described as a dark-skinned black man, 6 feet 4 inches tall, 200 pounds with a medium build, short black hair and brown eyes. The man was wearing dark colored jeans, a black undershirt and black shoes.
H/T to Drudge
Via Ed:
The woman who was attacked has identified herself as Ashley Todd, who is a College Republican field representative. Here’s the photo:
Update Via Michelle Malkin: Via Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:
A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a “B” into her face after he saw a McCain bumper sticker on her car, the woman told Pittsburgh police.
Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.
HOAX:
“She just opened up and said she wanted to tell the truth,” Bryant said. “She was upset with the media for blowing this into a political firestorm.”
She told Detectives J.R. Smith and Scott Evans varying stories about how she ended up with two black eyes and a backward letter “B” etched onto her right cheek late Wednesday. She said she remembers being in her car, driving around the city, and seeing the letter on her cheek when she looked into the rearview mirror. She said she immediately thought of Barack Obama when she saw the “B,” Bryant said.
“She said she doesn’t remember doing it but knows it must have been her who did it,” Bryant said.
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Well Christian, with America being the most powerful country in the world, what happens to us matters a great deal to the rest. Witness the recent stock market. When we went down, they went down. It may be a global economy but the burden of success rests on our shoulders.
Socialism is a reality. We already are headed that way with our welfare state. Imagine when the scales tip and we have a welfare state that far surpasses anything any other country engages in. We will have a depression on a grand scale and make no mistake, IT WILL AFFECT THE WORLD.
A mentally ill woman told a wild unfounded lie, hey maybe theres a future for this woman as a newscaster! She would be perfect for CNN, and for that matter any of the news media’s except FOX.:):):)=))
Thanks for your expert economic analysis. Bob Bon and Robert, but the fact is that the global economy, as we see right now, involves finding a balance between private market capitalism and government regulation and support. We cannot categorize our economy as purely capitalist when it is the government now providing the capital. Things move too quickly, are too complicated, and the scale is too large to manage otherwise.
The only societies that could be categorized as more free-market than ours are brutal, chaotic, and mostly broke right now. Government can provide stability, oversight, and, yes, can help those who are caught short in the rapid shifts.
Republicans now want to rail about taxes, when we have in the US the most progressive tax system and the lowest tax burden of any of the world’s leading powers. They say it is “not patriotic” to pay taxes, when it is taxes that pay for the protection of our troops, their medical care and rehab, their education and training, our roads and schools, our police and fire departments, etc etc.
Republicans default to this position because no one likes paying taxes, but mostly they say this because they are out of ideas and the world has left them behind.
The “not patriotic”to pay taxes was in response to Biden’s: Paying Higher Taxes Is Patriotic Says Biden, Who Averaged $245,000 Per Year In Salary For 10 Years But Only Avereraged $380 In Charitable Donations
The taxes we pay for our military and their care are not in question, as the military is a non-negotiable fixed cost and they do not get nearly as much as they should. Our police and fire departments also are fixed costs, with the lions share of their wages coming out of state/local taxes. Roads and education are another matter all together. We have thrown too much money at a failing education system. Hence, home schooling is on the rise, as are private, charter and military schools.
The roads? MDOT should be sued.
Let’s see, what else, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Homeland Security, the Coast Guard, FBI, ATF, DEA, etc. Intertste Highways, oil pipelines, and all the infrastructure buisness relies on to make money. Much of it federally funded, necessary to keep our economy strong. What’s bad about paying taxes?
First of all, the Coast Guard is the fifth branch of the military, so I do believe we covered that.
Infrastructure was also covered.
We are talking about the redistribution of wealth..go to one of those threads to continue the conversation.
“Let’s see, what else, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Homeland Security, the Coast Guard, FBI, ATF, DEA, etc. Intertste Highways, oil pipelines, and all the infrastructure buisness relies on to make money. Much of it federally funded, necessary to keep our economy strong.”
Necessary to keep our economy strong?!!!!! I guess that’s why the US economy was so weak in the 19th century, when we had just about none of those agencies.
“A mentally ill woman told a wild unfounded lie, hey maybe theres a future for this woman as a newscaster! She would be perfect for CNN, and for that matter any of the news media’s except FOX”
True, true. For FOX she’s have to be more obviously insane, and her lies much less believable.
“The taxes we pay for our military and their care are not in question, as the military is a non-negotiable fixed cost…”
So, the level of military expenditure is now “non-negotiable”, is it?
So much for democracy!
“and they do not get nearly as much as they should.”
The US military gets more money than all of the militaries of the rest of the world combined. If the US was not the most belligerent nation on Earth, we could get by spending about 1/10th of what we do now!
Gene is a perfect example of what ignorance looks like when one tries to jump into a conversation but didn’t pay attention to what was said prior.
I’d watch my step Gene
Whether Republicans or democrat are doing the taxing, taxes are indeed about redistribution of wealth, from the individual good to the common good. Everyone who pays taxes is giving a bit of their wealth, theoretically, to help us all. When Joe the Plumber loses his plumbing license, the govt is there to help him until he can find another job. That’s a good thing, right? Or I forgot he has no license and doesn’t pay his taxes. But you know what I mean.
That’s why the “I hate government, I hate taxes” argument is so empty.
“The US military gets more money than all of the militaries of the rest of the world combined. If the US was not the most belligerent nation on Earth, we could get by spending about 1/10th of what we do now!”
That has to be bullshit!
Martin Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign, has tax liens. So do his companies, but by all means, let’s go after Joe The Plumber!
How did the left get Joes info? Oh that’s right, illegally!
Helping a working family that is having a tough time is one thing, but supporting 3 generations of welfare families is quite another..but then again, we both know that is what the conversation is all about.
Gene Callahan must be another Obama campaign staff member. As the vote draws near it seems their activity is spiking again.
What a post. Chris, with regards to your post on taxes. Read your american history book. The federal government was originally established to fund the military and protect the states. Nothing more. It was not meant to redistribute wealth or fund a growing nannie state.
Imagine. When you allow small business’s and corporations to florish, they hire people who have taxes taken out as well as improving their way of life by buying modern conveniences and technology generating a demand for more goods and subsequent tax revenues. THIS is what we should be looking at doing. NOT taking from the rich to give to the poor. The rich will eventually run out.
Well my Ph.D. is in economics but I have read a few history books!
The federal government was also orginally conceived to support slavery, denied the vote to women, etc. It has been amended a anumber of times. Socialism describes some aspects of all modern democratic-industrial states and has no real poiltical meaning anymore. The “nannie state” is pure Rush dittohead talk, a conservative buzzword used to oppose things like government-supported child care programs or insidious things like pre-natal care for young impverished mothers.
Things have changed a lot since our constitution was written, and gotten way more complicated. My only point is that the conservatives can take the next four years to find some new ideas. And I don’t think the richare in any danger of running out–in fact, they are getting richer, even now, as the middle class falls behind after eight years of Bush.
In my lifetime, all great economic expansions in this country have been presided over by Democratic Presidents. All the recessions have happened under Republicans. The only president who raised my taxes was a Republican.
Just pointing that out.
Anyway, this election has become a matter of competency, not ideology. That is what Obama is polling well.
Ph.D. is in economics? Robert is actually the POTUS and Bon Bon is the VEEP..Why don’t the three of you get acquainted..
Oh I like that one Pam =))
Chris, as one who worked in the graduate program of a major university I can tell you I am NOT impressed with your having a phd. In fact I have often found that folks who possess a phd frequently lack common sense. I guess liberalism fits with the mentality of academia.
That being said, yes, I understand our society has grown and to some extent the federal government must make sure certain members of our society are taken care of. Social security for instance was set up to ensure people who were too old to work would still be able to pay rent/utilities and be able to buy food. It does not ensure they will be able to afford to travel the world.
One last thing on the tax issue. Clinton was the last president to raise taxes and in case you hadn’t noticed he was a Democrap. When he did that in his first term as president my standard of living fell to the point where I had to get a second job. His taxes, along with the governor of our state who was also a democrat and had raised state taxes, kept me from getting ahead until Bush was elected and lowered the rate. I can’t begin to tell you how many times I cried my eyes out. Literally. From that point on I will never trust a democrat when he says he’s going to give the middle class tax breaks while running down the list of new spending.
Sincerely………BonBon….VEEP
=))=))
Well, BonBon, at least you as VP are more qualified than Sara Palin!
The only thing I would say is it’s dangerous road to vote for any party based on one issue. If they agree with you on thast issue, but are otherwise incompetent, that’s a problem. People have found that with Bush.
You don’t have to have a Ph.D. to know that like everything else, taxes will eventually go up to cover expenses.
A favorite Repblican trick is to not raise taxes, but raise all other govt fees, many of which are charged to small business, to get the needed revenue. They’ve done this in my state, and yes, it is enough to make you cry sometimes!
Illinois is run by corrupt Democrats and Chicago/Cook County in particular can thank Daley and the unions..They manage to raise the taxes, raise user fees and lessen the services that a person receives..so cry us a river about Republicans..
“Taxes are indeed about redistribution of wealth, from the individual good to the common good.”
I think what you meant to say was “from the individual good to whatever special interest has the squeakiest wheels.” Given your economics PhD, I assume you know public choice theory.
“I’d watch my step Gene”
I see — it’s OK for YOU to gratuitously insult ME, but should I respond in kind, well, that’s a whole different story!
“Well, BonBon, at least you as VP are more qualified than Sara Palin!”
Stop with the bashing Sarah Palin crap. It just makes you look like kool-aid drinking partisan hack. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Obama does. End of story…
Yes Gene,
That is exactly right..
OO thre goes Geney Callahan can’t take it that Fox tells both sides, unlike CNN the Obama and Marxist worship center. O go have a limp wristed eye rolling hissy fit now. O hiss hiss.Better quit reading Right Voices and go back to CNN and get indoctorated into more Obama is god doses.:):):):):):):):):):)
Pam, I believe there are about 7 states that have gone to hell because of democrap mismanagement. The top three were Michigan, Illinois and Maryland.
“O go have a limp wristed eye rolling hissy fit now. O hiss hiss.”
Hmm, if you don’t like Fox News you’re a homosexual? Yes, Libbie Basher, that’s pretty reasonable.
“Yes Gene,
“That is exactly right..”
Fascism means never having to listen to one’s opponents!
And when they do speak, call them limp-wristed sissies.
“Pam, I believe there are about 7 states that have gone to hell because of democrap mismanagement. ”
Is Kalifornia on the list? It should be!
But I think the bigger point is: We cannot afford to have the Democraps wreck all 57 states (or 59 or 60, or however many Obama thinks there are)
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Gene these right wingnuts are all the same. You can’t hope to educate them on Progressive concepts. They are not capable of understanding. But it won’t matter anymore when we have Congress and the White House; we will send out teams to stop their hate speech.
Konservatives, kut out the kute spelling and klunky puns.
Oh yeah. Ashley Todd for VP!
I will agree our Democratic governor in Illinois is an idiot. But not because he’s a Democrat.
Sphincter-
You are going to send teams? =))
Yes Sphincter, I have seen the light of a Liberal controlled House, Senate and White House. The Carter administration was indeed the light at the end of the tunnel. It just happened to be on the front of the economic lccomotive that would’ve resulted in the crash of this country’s economy had not Ronald Reagan woke up enough people to realize that over taxed businesses either fire employees and raise prices or go out of business, and unemployed people don’t have money for anything. Here’s a description of the end result of a resumption of Carter’s/Obama’s liberal agenda – STAGFLATION. That’s what happens when inflation, unemployment and interest rates escalate at the same time. There is ONLY one thing that can cause all three economic indicators to go up at once. OVER TAXATION. Been there, done that. Hope you like trying to buy $12/gal gas without a job while your adjustable rate mortgage hits 21%.
Honestly, many businesses are already planning lay offs in response to an Obama election. Most of the people who will lose their jobs, are the same morons who will be voting for Obama. If they don’t like the current 6.1% unemployment, let’s see how they like 10-15% unemployment. If they hate 6% inflation, they should LOVE 15% inflation. And if they are having trouble making their mortgage payments with an adjustable APR of 8.5% they’ll really be struggling to keep their house when it reaches 21% like it did under Jimmy Carter. Learn from history or fall victim to it.
“Many businesses planning lay=offs in response to an Obama election”? And your source is?
The sky is falling, the sky is falling! OBAMA COULDN’T SCREW THINGS UP MORE THAN BUSH HAS. TWO WARS< A WRECKED ECONOMY< RECORD DEFICITS.
Time, perhaps for some new ideas that transcend these old right-left tropes.
Maybe you’ll settle down when you get your Obama tax cut. Don’t be scared.
Cheers!
Bush didn’t do this, he has a paper trail with audio to back him up..this financial disaster belongs to your party and especially Obama. Especially Obama because he could have done the right thing and cast a vote with the Republicans but he chose to vote along party lines and tell us about a letter he wrote!
As to the wars, thank God Obama didn’t get his way. We will be able to exit Iraq victorius rather than the surrender monkey’s he would have preferred.
You do know that the next POTUS will make Bushes deficits look like childs play don’t you?
Yes it’s true this war will have our children’s children still struggling with a huge deficit. Add to that a huge banking bailout: whoever the next president is will have his hands full trying to find resources. At least with Obama/Biden you have a well-educated team that actually knows something about economics, as opposed to McCain who has admitted he doesn’t know much about economics, nor does it particularly interest him.
As to who wins in Iraq, I don’t think it will ever be clear. Will the insugents sign a surrender treaty? When does it become official? If you ask most Iraqis I wonder–their infrastructure totally destroyed, hundreds of thousands of civlilans killed, families divided, neighbors killing neighbors, and still no oil flowing from their wells. I wonder what this “victory” feels like to them, not to mention the tens of thousands of American soldiers who return badly maimed, their lives ruined, to inadequate, overwhlemed VA faciltities that are underfunded because the adminstration, spending billions on bombs and bailouts, have a phobia about asking the taxppayers to do any more, even to aid the wounded warriors. Republicans who say they “support the troops” have much to answer for.