CHOSEN: President Barack Obama
Ten Thesis on President-Elect Obama
President George W. Bush: “Mr President-elect, congratulations to you. What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters. Laura and I called to congratulate you and your good bride. I promise to make this a smooth transition. You are about to go on one of the great journeys of life. Congratulations and go enjoy yourself”
From Jim Geraghty: “I have many, many disagreements with Barack Obama. But tonight I congratulate him on his victory. I have seen a few critics say, ‘he won’t be my president,’ but that is nonsense. He will be my president, and I will wish him well, particularly as he takes on the duty of protecting the American people in a dangerous world.”
Jim Manzi: “There are about 1,460 days until the next Presidential election, and I assume that I will spend approximately the next 1,459 of them opposing Barack Obama. But I’m spending today proud abut what my country has overcome.”
Johnah Goldberg: “Look, I expect to be one of the most severe critics of the Obama administration and the Democrats generally in the years ahead (though I sincerely hope I won’t find that necessary). But Obama ran a brilliant race and he should be congratulated for it. . . . God bless America, and may He guide Obama to be the best president possible.”
(links and quotes added to this post by Lisa)
Ed Morrissey has Notes from the collapse “If the GOP wants to win 60 million votes in future national elections, it has to stand for something other than being Democrat Lite. The Republican Party needs clarity, purpose, and most importantly, an end to the hypocrisy of talking smaller government while porking up their districts. When given only a choice between real Democrats and fake Democrats, Americans will choose the former, which we found out in 2006.”
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November 4, 2008 - 11:29 PM on November 4th, 2008
McCain was gracious in his concession speech. He’s an honorable man.
Barack Obama was transcendant in his acceptance speech. I hope we all, as Americans, could feel the change in the air. It’s time.
We’ve all just witnessed history and in a very profound way.
“Yes we can”. We can too…
** Thanks for those quotes Lisa. That’s truly significant.
November 4, 2008 - 11:43 PM on November 4th, 2008
If this holds, and Obama is elected then the following things need to happen:
1. Whatever happens now, from smallest to biggest, is on the Democrats. They wanted the power, now they have it all. They made many promises; they now have no more excuses, and no one else to blame.
2. The race mongers, the race baiters, the poverty pimps, like Jackson and Sharpton, need to just shut their damned mouths and go away for good. An “African-American” has now reached the highest office in the land. The glass ceiling is broken. It’s all over. Disband all the advocacy groups, you’re no longer needed.
3. Likewise, affirmative action should be immediately outlawed as unconstitutional and made a Federal crime. It’s just discrimination, plain and simple, and should be handled same as any other. No longer can any argument be made whatsoever to indulge it.
November 5, 2008 - 12:20 AM on November 5th, 2008
Responding to Robert:
1) I completely agree. Bush made quite a mess, though; cleaning it up will take years…
2)This event is momentous, but the idea that racism is over is absurd. Regardless, we’re the first fully-industrialized country to elect a black president. In your face Europe!!
3) I’ve always believed that if inner-city schools were better funded, affirmative action would be wholly unnecessary. So I guess that I agree…
November 5, 2008 - 12:48 AM on November 5th, 2008
Congratulations for this amazing election. I have to say that even though Obama was my favorite, I agree with Eben: Mc Cain is clearly an honorable man.
I cannot see my country (France) electing someone who is not purely white for a long time.
The next big surprise in the US would be the election of a woman latino as president- I find it so stupid when the French media discribes this election as the victory of the white and black America! Or maybe even just someone who is not Christian, or not heterosexual…
November 5, 2008 - 01:39 AM on November 5th, 2008
AKD Bush didn’t blow up the WTC, nor did he cause the mess with the economy. The Democratic “give a loan to anyone whether they can afford it or not” policy did that.
Martin Luther King said he had a dream when people would be judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Please tell me that you don’t honestly believe that the blacks in this country voted for Obama because of anything other than his skin tone? The content of his character leaves more than a little to be desired. As I have said before, I didn’t vote against Obama because of his skin tone, I voted against him because he’s WRONG for the job. Exactly how calling people racist at every turn is going to unite the country I have no idea, but that’s exactly what his campaign did.
On the topic of funding inner city schools, funding isn’t the problem. The TEACHERS,and PARENTS are the problems. Inner city schools get far more in funding per pupil than most rural schools, but most just don’t use it well. There will be NO accountability to insure that a teacher is even teaching now. The unions have gotten their way and we’ll have at least four more years of subpar education. The problem with education in this country started in the 70s when education departments started pushing the idea of outcome based education. Under outcome based education, it didn’t matter if the student got the answer wrong as long as he felt good about his answer. What happened was kids discovered they no longer had to bother learning the material and since they were going to be promoted anyway, what difference did it make? Some schools even went so far as to eliminate grades because it made the kids who weren’t learning the material feel bad. I have to wonder how the teachers think the kids will feel when they’re told, “sorry kid you failed to pass the exam to be hired. Perhaps if you had actually learned to do the math they teach in 3rd grade you might have been employable. ” Many companies now administer tests to employees just to determine if they are smart enough to hire. That includes Rent a Center, and the Van Tyl Auto dealership chain. BTW it’s the same test they give to determine that you have a chance of passing your classes at Lincoln Technical school. I know because I’ve taken the test for all three. How wonderful will the kid feel when he fails to pass the ASVAB to try and get into the military. Don’t laugh, I was there when the recruiter got the call that someone had failed the test for the second time. Most companies are beginning to look at High School diplomas as worthless because standards have fallen so low. If you want better schools, it doesn’t take more money. It takes more discipline, and the will of the board of education to back the Administrator who enforces it. If a kid doesn’t do his homework, fail him on it. If he gets enough failing grades, make him repeat the year. It’s not all that hard to tell a kid, you didn’t do the work, you don’t get the credit. Not enough credit to pass, I’ll see you back here until you do. Better to knock down the attitude of a 6 yr old that to have to deal with a 16yr old with a bad attitude.
November 5, 2008 - 06:33 AM on November 5th, 2008
I agree that affirmative action should now be taken off the table. I never want to hear the word racism again except if it’s referring to white people. As far as ‘african americans’, I actually have a couple of black friends who find it offensive to be called by this. They think of themselves as ‘americans’, not ‘african americans’.
Unlike Lisa I do not have that much of an open mind. I believe Obamas record and I think he has been less than honest about his intentions. I also think this election was stolen and time will bear that out.
The consequences will be huge for americans and the young have yet to realize that. Eventually they will though when there are no jobs, no money, and everything is falling apart.
The Fairness Doctrine, re-writing of the constitution? I will be watching and taking action with my party in Maryland to protest these. I just hope I won’t be jailed.
The democraps are already denying they are responsible for this economic meltdown; witness Barney Franks audacious campaign ad but there are those of us who know better. So Democraps hear this; SHUT THE F – - K UP. Take responsibility for your failures.
FAO, I hear you. Hide that gun. We just may need people like you and Robert to protect those of us against a dictatorial government.
AKD and Eben, did you hear that William Ayers might be given the position of Secretary of Indoctrination, uh, ah, um, I mean Education.
November 5, 2008 - 06:39 AM on November 5th, 2008
Well I could not resist the trolliness of the moment, to come and offer you guys my condolences, in the same vein as those I received from you 8 years ago. I hope the next 8 years are not as painful to you as the past 8 have been to me.
November 5, 2008 - 07:07 AM on November 5th, 2008
I will comment on BonBon’s post because we need to “de-rove” and “de-bush” him.
“I agree that affirmative action should now be taken off the table.”
Because one man won the highest office does not yet nullify the still very highly racially charged environment that our minorities still must face. Let us be honest – look at the confederate states. That wasn’t a vote for Mccain or even a vote against Obama. That was a vote against a black man. So until some more generational fading away from bigotry occurs, we need to continue to keep the playinbg field level.
“I do not have that much of an open mind.”
That is about the only thing you write that is spot on.
“I believe Obamas record and I think he has been less than honest about his intentions.”
You spew this but have nothing to back up this statement. Because you and other “believe” his intentions are evil, does not make them so. Show me how.
“I also think this election was stolen and time will bear that out.”
Again, how? Acorn? What fraction of a percentage point did the registrations filled by acorn really account for? Other than acron what else do you have. Obama didn’t have a brother as a governer in any state to order his state troopers to set up check points in overwhelming GOP precincts. So before you go spouting off nonsense about stolen election, go back and look at tour own party’s track record.
“The consequences will be huge for americans and the young have yet to realize that. Eventually they will though when there are no jobs, no money, and everything is falling apart. ”
Um take a look around you right now. We are already there. And for 6 of the last 8 years, this country was run by a GOP controlled executive and legistlative branch.
“re-writing of the constitution? ”
Take comfort in knowing that not even Bush could do this, so even if Obama were to even attempt it, it won’t happen.
“The democraps are already denying they are responsible for this economic meltdown”
Really? Wasn’t it Phil Graham who helped architect the deregulation of the banking sector? The pompous cowboy REPUBLICAN senator from the RUBY RED state of Texas? And yes, the Dems also signed off on those changes, so everyone takes share in the blame.
“FAO, I hear you. Hide that gun. We just may need people like you and ”
Please. You know damn well Obama has no intentions of taking your guns away. Even more so, nobody is going to change the bill of rights.
“AKD and Eben, did you hear that William Ayers might be given the position of Secretary of Indoctrination, uh, ah, um, I mean Education.”
Ok the Ayers thing, done. It didn’t work. It is time to let it go.
It is all done. The American people have spoken. A huge number of them, even in very red states. They not only have spoken in terms of president, but for a second time in a row, they have continued to elect more democrats over taking the politics of corruption the GOP has seem to have branded itself with.
In 8 years, this party has expanded government. Increased our deficit, placed us into two quagmires, put us into a deep recession, eroded our civil liberites, made is weaker as a world leader. No more. We are taking it back. BonBon you can either come with us, or become antequated and quaint at best in your thinking. Its up to you.
November 5, 2008 - 07:38 AM on November 5th, 2008
Trailhead. My open mind comment was in giving Obama a chance in spite of his record. I will not.
Racism is alive only when it’s black spewing on white. Affirmative Action must go.
Bush presidency. No terror attacks, good economy, low unemployment. Yup, it was pretty good.
William Ayers. My mother used to tell me watch who you hange with. There’s a reason for that and all of Obamas associations are the essense of who he is. Do you hang around radicals, drug dealers, criminals? If you don’t you should ask yourself why. Maybe it’s because you don’t want people to think that’s who you are.
Power in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing. This guy has been called the messiah. That alone is enough to give me pause.
I will go underground so to speak and pray our country does not regress to a third world status. Your party has been so eager to give us away, to blame the US for the worlds ills and I for one am sickened by the rhetoric.
November 5, 2008 - 08:04 AM on November 5th, 2008
Bon Bon,
I wouldn’t worry too much about the words of Trailhead. He talks about our hypocrisy and hate, and all one need do is read each of his ramblings. The hate within them is hypocritical and laughable. He is foolish enough to believe that if we do not support Obama, it is due to racism. He won’t look to the record of Barack Obama, for he knows that we are right, and we will be proven so as the months pass and the businesses close and new ones don’t open. Don’t go underground. Stay up here with the rest of us and re-build.
November 5, 2008 - 08:10 AM on November 5th, 2008
Lisa,
I would be looking at my options if I were in your shoes. I will be anxious to see how many pull out of the market..What is the point of not taking advantage of a lower tax margin now?
November 5, 2008 - 08:58 AM on November 5th, 2008
See BonBon, just like we have been saying for months:
1. They’ll blame everything on Bush for years. When in a year things are as bad or worse, they’ll claim it is Bush’s fault.
2. They’ll never give up the racism racket, because of the many levels of empowerment it gives them. It is a tool to use against their political enemies. And affirmative action? It is a part of the Democrite virtual plantation. They can’t let that go either; might give up some ground to the other side.
No, those things won’t go away. The things that will go away are more of your money (if you are a working, productive American) and your Constitutional rights.
November 5, 2008 - 09:00 AM on November 5th, 2008
Pam the tradeoff of course is selling now at depressed valuations vs waiting and hoping for them to come back, but selling with higher capital gains taxes.
Tough decision. I have some stock that hasn’t lost much and I am seriously considering taking my profits before the end of the year.
November 5, 2008 - 12:47 PM on November 5th, 2008
Lol, you guys are so funny…. Blame Bush for things that happen in Obama’s term…. like you blame everything in Bush’s term on Clinton ???? Puhlease.
If being black is such an advantage in getting elected as it obviously was for Obama then why didn’t you guys put forward a black candidate, or at least put McCain in black-face…
And from the advice you guys have for your fellow commiserators, give up on your businesses, sell up stock, leave the country, perhaps Mr McCain was a little over optimistic in his evaluation of the “fundamentals” of the American economy. Grow up, just because the popular vote didn’t go your way doesn’t mean you have to throw your toys out of the pram and have a little hissy fit.
Here’s to the next glorious 8 years.
November 5, 2008 - 01:08 PM on November 5th, 2008
Let’s hope you’re right, Fred.
Obama was not my choice – so understandably it’s with apprehension that I accept the outcome of this election. I’m willing to keep an open mind and give him the chance any new president elect deserves. If I’m to believe what he said during his campaign – I’m worried.
However, I am also looking forward to Bush hitting the pages of history.
I can only hope (ironically enough) that my worries will be unfounded and in a year or two from now I will look back on this and say “maybe I should have voted for him, he ain’t so bad”. Anything is possible.
Maybe he will be everything his supporters think he is, and more. And maybe he won’t. But I don’t accept his win with the blind optimism of “hope and change” that most of his supporters do.
To be fair, I would have had the same apprehensions if McCain were elected. I, honestly, didn’t have a huge amount confidence in either candidate…but, in the end, couldn’t bring myself to vote for wealth redistribution and increased tax rates.
November 5, 2008 - 01:15 PM on November 5th, 2008
“November 5, 2008 – 12:47 PM on November 5th, 2008
Lol, you guys are so funny…. Blame Bush for things that happen in Obama’s term….”
I posted and predicted that more than a month ago. It will absolutely happen. Just this morning, Obama was already setting the stage for two things by saying it will take years to fix things, maybe more than one term:
1. They’ll blame Bush when they fail to improve the economy.
2. Aw, shucks! Obama needs a 2nd term! Then he’ll really be able to fix things! Just you watch and see!
The handwriting is on the wall, folks.
MARK MY WORDS!
November 5, 2008 - 01:28 PM on November 5th, 2008
Lisa,
Well absoloutly, now that he has won, like every other president before him, it will be time for actions and not words, and the next year or so will show if he is all hot air or if his vision truly is for the best. I am VERY supprised at your “looking forward to Bush hitting the pages of History” comment, Didn’t you go to his rallies and expouse his virtues but 4 years ago? what changed since you last voted for him? I was firm in that opinion 7 3/4 years ago…….
November 5, 2008 - 01:36 PM on November 5th, 2008
Robert, I have no doubt that some blame will be put on the previous regeme especially early on, I am saying it is a little rich to complain of the use of a “tactic”, for want of a better term, that the republicans have leaned so heavily on throught the Bush era. “Clinton this, Clinton that….” give me a break.
Obama will get his second term have no doubt…
November 5, 2008 - 01:41 PM on November 5th, 2008
Watch them take it to a new level, Fred!
November 5, 2008 - 02:18 PM on November 5th, 2008
Well I will be watching, but I doubt me it will be any worse, or even to the extent that we have been exposed to over the past 8 years. Of course I expect more from Obama so if there is too much blame laying 4 years from now I will be as disapointed as you, because regardless of who is to fault they are Obama’s problems now.
November 5, 2008 - 03:07 PM on November 5th, 2008
Fred – I was an ardent Bush supporter, you’re right. I campaigned for him in 2000 and attended rallys in 2004. I don’t regret it – - I suspect I would have regretted an Al Gore or John Kerry presidency a lot more.
I’m not a ‘tow the party line’ type. I started out Bush’s administration a Republican. I ripped up my RNC card in 2006 and mailed it back to them in one of their postage paid envelopes they sent asking me for contributions. I end Bush’s administration with no real attachment to any particular political party.
Bush started to lose me by stepping on the neck of states rights when he called an ‘emergency session’ of Congress over Easter weekend in efforts to over rule Florida legislation on the Schaivo case.
Congress can convene over a holiday weekend to legislate on one single woman’s life in Florida – - but they took off for 3 days during a Jewish holiday when the country was in the midst of its worst economic downturn and market crash since the depression? Skewed priorities, right there.
He has since disheartened me by spending like a drunk sailor. That is what also worries me about Obama… all of his proposed government programs will need to paid for by money that comes from somewhere, in an economy nearing recession with a deficit so far in the red – - it’s a scary prospect.
The state of the economy leaves a lot of blame to be thrown around. Poor democratic policies left over from the Clinton administration (sub prime mortgage lending) – enabled by poor oversight during the Bush administration has led us to where we are right now. Though, I’d rather see politicians in Washington spending as much of their time and energy on fixing the problem, as they do pointing fingers of blame…and that is directed to both sides.
It’s like when your house is on fire. You don’t stand there arguing over whose fault it is – - you put out the fire first, and then can spend the rest of your life pontificating about fault, if you want to.
I don’t dislike Bush. On the contrary, I still think, at heart, he is a good man and I think history will not be as harsh a judge as current opinion would lead you to believe. Obviously, you and I are going to differ there.
Bush is a divisive leader who has created a great deal of bitterness from the left, and disappointment (for some) on the right. A fresh start with a new vision may be what this country needs right now…maybe. It all depends on how Obama faces the tough challenges that lie ahead.
November 5, 2008 - 03:34 PM on November 5th, 2008
Pm wrote “Stay up here with the rest of us and re-build.”
Rebuild what? The republican party has failed miserbly on two fronts. 1) They have not only lost touch but have been wandering around blind without direction with America. They drifted too far to the right. 2) The gave blnk checks and rubber stamped a neocon agenda.
Another side worth mentioning is the fact that this nation, as a whole, doesn not want our government playing politics with social issues. Gay marriage and abortion were not even mentioned. Why? Because the majority of us simply do not want our government using the constitution to govern our privte lives. And, the rest of us were tired of the religious right coming into our living rooms telling us how to live. The republican party latched onto this sect and rode a short and powerful wave, but once the wter receded, tht is all it was.
So yes, the GOP needs to do more than rebuild – it needs to place its finger back onto the pulse of this country and realize the status quo is no longer valid. The White Christian Male is now quaint and this country is in a real transformtion. Perhaps the GOP needs to redefine its brand.
November 5, 2008 - 03:35 PM on November 5th, 2008
@BonBon:
“AKD and Eben, did you hear that William Ayers might be given the position of Secretary of Indoctrination, uh, ah, um, I mean Education.”
No. I’ve not heard that nor is it confirmable from what searching I did.
But beyond that BonBon may I ask you if you got anything out of what McCain said during his concession speech? Did you listen to Obama’s victory speech? Why is it so difficult for you (from what I’ve always read of you) to open your mind to think beyond what you were trained to think. There’s not long (in my opinion) any place for an “us and them” United States.
Barack Obama represents the ideal of hope. It’s up to ALL OF US to assist him in carrying out that goal.
Can we have a hiatus on hurling insults and innuendo until we give the man a chance. YOUR candidate asked it of you .. you’d think you’d be willing to give it a go.
November 5, 2008 - 03:41 PM on November 5th, 2008
I ask you once again Trailhead: Why do you think Obama is entitled to support and cooperation from all when the day after Bush was elected the Left began their 8-yr process of undermining, slandering, obstructing, and attacking him even when it damaged the Country? Why should opponents now not do the same to Obama? Democrites set the precedent!
November 5, 2008 - 03:46 PM on November 5th, 2008
@BonBon”
“Power in the wrong hands is a dangerous thing.”
No question.
We’ve had seven years (since 9/11) to see it fully in action.
No more military deaths and no more innocent Iraqi civilian deaths at the hands of Bush’s “wrong war”. Let alone the end of ten to twelve million dollars a month in military spending? Yup. That ought to help the old economy eh BonBon?
November 5, 2008 - 04:01 PM on November 5th, 2008
Yes Eben, I know, all those poor Iraqi civilian deaths. I heard they were al queda and Iranian insurgents. Should we do a death count on those and the ones Saddam murdered? Or don’t you care about those.
And why on earth should I worship a man who I think is going to lead this country into hell for a party that gave zero respect to my candidate. I’m sorry, I just won’t do it and I do have an open mind. The thing with me though is that I have principles, values, and convictions on what is right and what is wrong.
I have listened to Obama and that is exactly what worries me.
November 5, 2008 - 04:02 PM on November 5th, 2008
Bon Bon, you will have to excuse Eben, he didn’t get the memo that Obama has no plans to just pull the troops, as he conceded in July.
It was up to all of us to support Bush, but how’d that work out Eben…Hope is not a strategy..Hope doesn’t pay the bills or protect the nation.
Obama will be shown the same respect that Bush was..nothing more, nothing less.
November 5, 2008 - 04:05 PM on November 5th, 2008
Trailhead,
I guess you don’t pay attention to what actually goes on outside of your simple little world..Looks like the California voters couldn’t disagree with you more on gay marriage 52% to 47%..
November 5, 2008 - 04:09 PM on November 5th, 2008
…so much for finger on the pulse.
November 5, 2008 - 04:13 PM on November 5th, 2008
Robert, you tend to forget, Bush was not elected on Nov 4th 2000. It hinged on one state. A state in which his brother was Governer, the oversight of the board of elections was not only a registered republican, but the head of his campaign in the state of florida. So, yes, people felt like the election was stolen. They did not feel it was a valid presidency. People did not feel he and his selected cabinet had the best interests of this nation in mind. He did not represent the majority.
What is the difference now? Because this election was decisive. The people have spoken and spoken loudly. Of course, there will be ignorant few such as yourseld who will not cooperate, but fortunately, Robert, you are not only in a very extreme minority, but a dying breed breathing its last breaths. I have been waiting for this moment for a long time to finally get to see it. I can leave people like you knowing I do not have to expend energy arguing with you, fighting the front line battles that I know never go anywhere because I will never sway your opinion or you mine, but nonetheless, a fight that needed to be fought. I knew if I stood my ground against people like you, your quaint and narrow minded thinking would eventually lose out. It is with great pleasure, I can walk away from these neo and ultra conservative blogs knowing that you will join thr ranks of not only insignificance but be so extreme, you can be lumped in with the likes of such ignorance that organizations like the KKK and the blank panther party show. Thye beauty in that is because your way of thinking is so far gone, nobody will pay you any mind to you any longer. That will help me sleep better at night.
November 5, 2008 - 04:20 PM on November 5th, 2008
TrailHead-
All the major news organizations conducted recounts after the fact and Bush won the state. Gore insisted on just the 3 counties rather than the entire state, his mistake..but the law was followed and Bush won the election in 2000. It doesn’t matter if you feel like it was stolen or not, the fact is that Bush won the election in 2000.
You can only wish that the conservatives have been crushed. Like a phoenix, we shall rise again..Too bad for you!
This election saw 3.24 million fewer votes than four years ago..
November 5, 2008 - 04:30 PM on November 5th, 2008
You never answered the question, Trailhead because you have no answer other than “that’s just the way it is now you have to coooperate”.
I can just as easily, with more certainty, state that the Democrites stole this election with massive voter fraud.
Take 5% off Obama’s vote totals. Now what does the picture look like?
And because I opposed Obama I am a racist and KKK type? Uh-huh. Well, as this country begins to suffer deeply economically, I hope you feel the full pain of what you have helped to bring on. When you’re filling your gas tank with that $6 gasoline, I’m sure you’ll feel warm and fuzzy. When your 401k is a 40k (Dow lost 4.5% today on the election news) you’ll just know you did well. When National Security secrets are leaked to our enemies (as the democrites have already done) you can feel wonderful knowing you had a hand in the final destruction of the once-great America.
You are a fool, Trailhead, and a militant one at that. You and your party have sold your souls to the Devil. The most regrettable fact is you are pulling the rest of the Country down with you.
November 5, 2008 - 04:43 PM on November 5th, 2008
Stocks Fall as Investors Ponder Obama Presidency..
Wait a minute — that doesn’t fit the narrative, does it? Wasn’t the whole country supposed to rejoice? Apparently not investors.
For that matter. . . wasn’t the entire world supposed to welcome us with open arms after an Obama win?….
Japanese stocks fall on Obama win
Asians uneasy over Obama trade stance
November 5, 2008 - 04:48 PM on November 5th, 2008
“Obama will be shown the same respect that Bush was..nothing more, nothing less.”
Exactly! Now if we followed that to the letter, we would already be starting to plan an incessant campaign of opposing, obstructing, undermining, slandering, and attacking Obama, as the Democrites did to Bush. If Obama says “Good Morning” we would unleash an MSM report that Obama is dividing America by excluding people who are not having a good morning.
But we won’t do that because we have honor and integrity and sincerely do want to help the nation, unlike the Democrites who were quite willing to and did damage America in any and every way when it would hurt Bush. That is because their leadership are Boll Weevil vermin traitors who deserve zero respect. They deserve only scorn, ridicule, removal from office, imprisonment, and banishment.
But to oppose anything that we do not agree would help America is not only quite proper, it is our duty and is quite patriotic. I accept the challenge!
November 5, 2008 - 04:49 PM on November 5th, 2008
Well Lisa, to be fair, he does get the record:
Floored: Dow Plunges 486 Points
November 5, 2008 - 05:30 PM on November 5th, 2008
“Let us be honest – look at the confederate states. That wasn’t a vote for Mccain or even a vote against Obama.That was a vote against a black man.”
That is the single stupidest, most contrived, most moronic statement ever posted here.
November 5, 2008 - 05:32 PM on November 5th, 2008
Pam – well congratulations Obama. It’s historic!
November 5, 2008 - 08:02 PM on November 5th, 2008
President Obama has won decisively; all opposition must now cease! The Republicans have been soundly repudiated and the Democratic Party is now in total control! So now it is time for Republicans to shut up and accept their sound defeat!
It is time for all to solidly support President Obama! Any opposition will be addressed by the Civilian Security Forces as soon as they are in place!
November 5, 2008 - 11:17 PM on November 5th, 2008
Well, I guess it’s too soon for me to post something rational. I’ll wait. Both sides are still in crazy land.
Fortunately, President-Elect Obama still seems very rational to me.
November 6, 2008 - 12:01 AM on November 6th, 2008
Haha, Zelda
It may take awhile… for both sides
November 6, 2008 - 12:27 PM on November 6th, 2008
You guys have probably already seen this:
“Fox News reports that Palin didn’t know Africa was a continent and did not know the member nations of the North American Free Trade Agreement — the United States, Mexico and Canada — when she was picked for vice president.”
And there’s more…
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=6196407&page=1
Palin in 2012!!
November 6, 2008 - 02:03 PM on November 6th, 2008
He is not my president ever i dont heil to any tyrant dictator so SCREW IT
November 6, 2008 - 02:04 PM on November 6th, 2008
Yes, an unnamed source said that…
November 6, 2008 - 02:45 PM on November 6th, 2008
Wow, they are still making up lies about Palin? Even after the election?
We learned about Africa and the other continents in 2nf grade geography. So to say something like that is not only an obvious made-up lie, it is the lowest and most sphincterous.
But I’ll bet Palin knows there are 50 states, not 57…
November 6, 2008 - 02:49 PM on November 6th, 2008
Silence from Trailhead. He was asked 3 times why Democrites should expect, are entitled to full cooperation and support for Obama after they not only failed to support Bush but obstructed, undermined, attacked, mocked, and slandered him for 8 years even when it damaged the nation.
He has no answer. He has no argument. He has…nothing…
November 6, 2008 - 03:51 PM on November 6th, 2008
Re: Palin: I agree that you can’t trust the folks at Fox News…
Re: Full Support for Obama: The idea that any president must have full support from the populace is silly. Some people will support him; some won’t. Right Voices should be free to attack Obama just like the left was free to attack Bush. Double standards suck.
November 6, 2008 - 04:59 PM on November 6th, 2008
It didn’t take long for libbies to latch onto that one, huh?
It’s no secret McCains campaign was less than perfect and subsequently there was alot of bickering. I’m sure someone who’s feelings were hurt said some nasty, untrue things.
AKD. Do you really think that a fully vetted vp candidate and governor of a major state doesn’t know these things?
November 6, 2008 - 05:50 PM on November 6th, 2008
What are the “major” states and what are the minor ones?
I definitely think that a fully vetted veep candidate does know these things — what makes you suspect that Palin was fully vetted?
November 9, 2008 - 11:32 PM on November 9th, 2008
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Please tell me that you don’t honestly believe that the blacks in this country voted for Obama because of anything other than his skin tone? …
How magnanimus of you to decree so blatantly the Blacks would of course vote for a Black candidate because they are not intelligent enough to make an informed decision. Blacks would only vote for a Black candidate simply because he is Black. Personal, I would take a look election results from 1972 when Shirley Chisholm ran and 1984 and 1988 when Jesse Jackson ran. Those results do not indicate that all Blacks voted for a candidate just because they were Black. Additionally, if that the case, which I happen to know was not, so what. If Blacks did vote for him just because he was Black, it’s not like there was a choice before. Blacks have voted before, so who did they vote for? Sorry, dumb statement.
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I have said before, I didn’t vote against Obama because of his skin tone, I voted against him because he’s WRONG for the job.
So YOU have the acumen to make an informed choice based on…whatever, definately not skin color, but Blacks are not capable of making the same decision.? hmmm
FrmrArtyOffcr
The TEACHERS,and PARENTS are the problems. Inner city schools get far more in funding per pupil than most rural schools, but most just don’t use it well.
Profound but not completely accurate. You can not compare effectully straight across the board rural and urban cost per child. Teachers earn between $40k and 62k , I’ve seen $6500 to $9800 per child depending on the city, state, cost per special needs child (which isn’t averaged out on most tables). I do believe 60% of the responsibility is the parents, 20% on the teachers, and 20% on the state and school administration.
Lobbyist from book companies should be locked out of the process; teachers must be tested prior hiring and held accountable for measurable objective standards; States need to hold school districts accountable for measurable objective standards; and, eliminate the superfluos mind numbing paperwork; and last but not leaset, parents need to kick the childs butt, the teachers butt, and the school districts but into gear.They need invest time and go PTA meetings, know what teachers have issues and which are tuna’s begging for filet. Oh, I hate school vouhers, they dilute and move around the problem, the issues still exist. While being rung up at Rite Aid I asked the clerk if she had voted yet. She said, I don’t vote, I don’t have time.” I can be pushy, so I asked why. She said she had kids and no time to vote. I asked about the school system concerns on the ballot. She said “I get vouchers my kids go to private school.” I felt my blood pressure go up, my eyeballs started to sweat, so I left after I told her she should do an absentee ballot if time was an issue, at least her voice would be heard. This woman had at best, a rudimentary command of the english language, I sure hope those vouches work better for her kids.
November 10, 2008 - 11:37 AM on November 10th, 2008
All of the problems of the schools make a very complex issue. There is no way, with the powerful special interests involved, the system will be reformed enough from within. The best single thing that can be done is to implement vouchers. There will be lots of pain as kids leave the failing Gov’t schools, but in the long run it is the only way to effect the CHANGE needed.
We need change, change, change we can believe in!