Why Is Florida State University Giving $5000 To Pay William Ayers To Speak
By: Pam On: Dec/4/08 - 23 Comments
He is a domestic terrorist. You can try and clean him up by attaching the laughable adjective, “Distinguished Professor”, to his reume, but his is still a murderer, and an unrepentant one at that!
‘Education reform’? Give me a break. He never achieved his goals at the University of Michigan, nor in the heyday of the Weatherman.
Contacts:
| Lawrence G. Abele Provost and Executive Vice President for Academic Affairs |
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labele@mailer.fsu.edu www.fsu.edu/~acaffair 850.644.1816 850.644.0172 |
| John R. Carnaghi Senior Vice President of Finance and Administration |
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jcarnagh@admin.fsu.edu www.vpfa.fsu.edu 850.644.4444 850.644.4447 |
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| Mary B. Coburn Vice President for Student Affairs |
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mcoburn@admin.fsu.edu www.studentaffairs.fsu.edu 850.644.5590 850.644.6297 |
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| Dianne F. Harrison Vice President for Academic Quality and External Programs |
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dfharris@mailer.fsu.edu - 850.644.5196 850.644.0172 |
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| Lee F. Hinkle Vice President for University Relations |
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lhinkle@mailer.fsu.edu www.fsu.edu/~univrel 850.644.1000 850.644.3612 |
Find out why he is giving money to a terrorist!
H/T to Michelle
December 5, 2008 - 12:15 PM on December 5th, 2008
To clarify, student money is being used, not school money. This is paid for by a program that is funded by the Student Government Agency with money that is contributed via tuition to a student bank account. It is not allocated by any state local or national legislature and as a result is not the authority of any of the names you have listed.
The university is not giving him money, the students are. Please remove that inference from this article, it is misleading and uninformed.
December 5, 2008 - 05:04 PM on December 5th, 2008
I will not remove anything based on your word Ashley..provide the paperwork to back up your claim!
December 5, 2008 - 08:02 PM on December 5th, 2008
Oh look at this:
“He is the leading voice on education reform,” said Edward Stierli, spokesman for the Institute of Liberal Studies, an umbrella organization for other liberal-student groups at FSU. “We want his insight on what he’s done in Chicago.”
Unless they are looking at how to do it wrong, Ayers is not the leading voice on Education Reform.
The joint effort between Barack Obama and terrorist William Ayers to “reform” Chicago schools was a flop. After spending $160 million, Chicago’s children were still being left behind
Where did the Annenberg Money Go? Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism
December 5, 2008 - 09:16 PM on December 5th, 2008
From the same news article to back up my claim:
“Ayers was asked to visit the campus by a student organization, the Institute for Liberal Studies, that is paying for and handling all aspects of his visit, FSU officials said.”
So, you can be angry that students have invited and funded this man to come to our university. The administration members have nothing to do with this (and cannot override it because it was passed by student senate).
December 5, 2008 - 09:47 PM on December 5th, 2008
Ashley,
Yes the University can shoot it down and who is writing the contract..
I guess you missed the portion about Ayers being a failure at reform!
December 6, 2008 - 08:50 AM on December 6th, 2008
64% of students receive aid through the taxpayer funded Bright Futures scholarships. That aid goes toward the very student activity fees which are bringing Mr. Ayers in. So maybe technically the school isn’t “supporting” it but the taxpayers of Florida are which is even worse.
December 6, 2008 - 09:40 AM on December 6th, 2008
You should probably stop playing the Florida Lottery in protest then, that’s where the funds are appropriated through, not the FL sales tax or property tax.
December 6, 2008 - 10:00 AM on December 6th, 2008
Well that lottery money can go to schools that appreciate the funds. It is also State funds by definition
Ashley,
Can you give a success story headed by Ayers?
December 6, 2008 - 10:48 AM on December 6th, 2008
Ayers Continues To Lie About The Blood On His Hands
December 6, 2008 - 01:14 PM on December 6th, 2008
Florida residents,
Sign the petition to keep Ayers away from FSU.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/keep-ayers-away-from-FSU/
December 6, 2008 - 03:37 PM on December 6th, 2008
there is probably a large Muslim student population there, or at least some reps of the MSA – they invited Ayers previously at another college
<a href=”http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/yes-we-can-muslim-students-at-northwestern-invite-terrorist-ayers-to-speak/”>Yes We Can: Muslim students at Northwestern invite terrorist Ayers to speak</a>
December 6, 2008 - 03:38 PM on December 6th, 2008
Yes We Can: Muslim students at Northwestern invite terrorist Ayers to speak
link might be too long
December 6, 2008 - 05:10 PM on December 6th, 2008
Ayers worked with Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley in shaping the city’s school reform program,[35] and was one of three co-authors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge grant proposal that in 1995 won $49.2 million over five years for public school reform.[36] In 1997 Chicago awarded him its Citizen of the Year award for his work on the project.[37] Since 1999 he has served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, an anti-poverty, philanthropic foundation established as the Woods Charitable Fund in 1941.[38]
Also: There are no Muslims on the board of ILS. The organization that helped donate to this project was CPE (one of the organizations that SDS started while on FSU) and the college democrats. If if you’re attempting to make the lame connection between muslims and love of terrorism it fails.
December 6, 2008 - 06:45 PM on December 6th, 2008
Gee Ashley, thanks for the wiki info, but lets stick to the facts:
The joint effort between Barack Obama and terrorist William Ayers to “reform” Chicago schools was a flop. After spending $160 million, Chicago’s children were still being left behind
Where did the Annenberg Money Go? Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism
When all was said and done, the had $160 million, and operated in 210 schools throughout Chicago between 1996 and 2001. Here is what the report concluded on the bang up job done by these two idiots and their partners in crime:
It gets better:
December 7, 2008 - 01:05 PM on December 7th, 2008
Ashley is correct, I was opposed to bringing Ayers to FSU with student funds. But the money is theirs, it does not come from the lotto, or alumni contributions or state funds. There is a nine dollar fee for all students that pays for free access to sporting events, concerts and speakers. This year we had Michelle Malkin speak about why “Liberals are Hypocates” and two years ago we spent 40 thousand on Anne Culture who completly bashed liberals.
I’m a strong libetarian and I do believe they have the right to bring a left-wing radical to speak about education if they want.
It is their right in a free country to do so as a independent student group, I know the University itself has nothing to do with Ayers so I still support FSU fully, they have no power to stop Ayers so any protesting is futile.
They have their right to speak in our free country
December 7, 2008 - 04:59 PM on December 7th, 2008
LOD- That $5000 could go a long way in educating you!
December 7, 2008 - 05:57 PM on December 7th, 2008
5k is going to go a long way in reigniting campus conversation about him. We’re starting a dialogue, challenging preconceived notions shaped by a political campaign (Most people didn’t know who Ayers was before Palin mentioned him), talking about the use of property destruction for political ends, starting a community wide conversation about what happened in the 60s and using a persons controversial nature to talk about problems in education that this man has been given awards for helping to fix. Just saying “Bill Ayers” has brought about these conversations.
We’re using controversy to help bring about good and we’re making a largely disaffected campus curious. The worst thing this man can do is talk about education reform. What are you afraid of?
December 7, 2008 - 06:26 PM on December 7th, 2008
No Ashley, people your age didn’t know him, don’t mistake that ignorance for those of us over the age of 40..We all know who he is, what he did and what he is all about..
When you grow up little girl you will realize that this is not fear, it is called anger. Anger at the FBI for not doing their jobs properly to assure that this man spent the rest of his days in prison..
Anger that the man is able to shout :Ayers: “Guilty as sin, free as a bird, it’s a great country”.
Anger that:Eric Holder, Who Was Deeply Involved In Pardons Of Two Weather Underground Terrorists and Marx Rich, Is On Obama’s Veep Search Committee UPDATE: Let’s Look At Jim Johnson, the former Fannie Mae chief
Anger:Alert: The Chicago Annenberg Challenge/Obama/Ayers/ Daley Records Cover-up
You are not capable of challenging any preconceived notions based on this thread alone..You mistake an award given by a group of his peers, many that belonged to the same radical groups that he did, with success in his field. We have already seen his reform to ba a failure based on the independent review of the work.
When you grow up little girl, maybe you will be able to discuss a subject intelligently and you will be able to actually understand all sides of an issue…
Maybe you kids can greet him as he greeted everyone while a student at the University of Michigan…All of you should shout out “Fuck you mother fucker”…He seemed to like that and thought it was a nice way to greet people!
December 7, 2008 - 06:42 PM on December 7th, 2008
Don’t you think little girl is a bit condescending? Appealing to discredit the speaker is an awesome rhetorical flair, but really does nothing to support your argument (especially because you don’t know my age, and neither does anybody else). I find when people get heated, they do things to discredit the person and not their argument.
The FBI did do their job, but unfortunately COINTELPRO just so happened to be illegal. : You should be angry at our god damned bill of rights!
I’m not challenging preconceived notions here, I’m doing it on my campus. I just popped into challenge your specific misinformation about his funding then was distracted by more misinformation that just kept coming down the pipe. I apologize.
December 7, 2008 - 07:23 PM on December 7th, 2008
No Ashley, it isn’t condescending, it is the truth. I base that on your lack of knowledge..
Why the hell would I be mad at the Bill Of Rights? It is the FBI that screwed up, not the Constitution…Had the FBI done their job properly, Ayers would be an aged hippy sitting in a federal prison. The wire taps were ruled illegal, therefore getting him and his equally evil wife off on a technicality.
You might want to spend some time learning to do research, because you are by far, one of the most ignorant people that has popped in! You have no idea what the truth is, nor do you have any idea about the subject matter..
December 7, 2008 - 07:30 PM on December 7th, 2008
Kay
December 8, 2008 - 04:10 AM on December 8th, 2008
Ashley is 100% correct, this is student money and not state money. And if you are arguing that the money should be going towards paying student tuition…. it already has. Do you want to use it again? I know you’re an aged soul Pam, but you do remember student organizations from when you were in college, right?
January 12, 2009 - 12:54 PM on January 12th, 2009
While I clearly understand why many people are upset about Bill Ayers coming to FSU, there is nothing the university can do about it without becoming entangled in a law suit. The funds for the event are allocated by the Student Government Association from funds collected through a student activity fee. As such, these funds are subject to Supreme Court ruling in Southworth vs. the University of Wisconsin. This court ruling requires the allocation of these funds to be allocated on a viewpoint-neutral basis. In otherwords, the viewpoint of a speaker cannot be considered. Now of course, in this situation, Bill Ayers is no doubt a terrorist, however, because the government botched the case against him by obtaining all the evidence illegally, he is not in jail and was never convicted. For purposes of deciding to fund or not fund, his acts cannot be considered as he was never convicted. Even if he was convicted, the ruling in Southworth does not specify wether a speaker can be prohibited due to criminal activity.