Time: Person of the Year ‘04
Time Magazine: Person of the Year 2004
Eagles rather than doves nestle in the Oval Office Christmas tree, pinecones the size of footballs are piled around the fireplace, and the President of the United States is pretty close to lounging in Armchair One. He’s wearing a blue pinstripe suit, and his shoes are shined bright enough to shave in. He is loose, lively, framing a point with his hands or extending his arm with his fingers up as though he’s throwing a big idea gently across the room.
Wonderful!
I had heard rumblings earlier this year that Time would announce “bloggers” as the Person(s) of the Year — however, I think that was just the pajama people being hopeful. Personally, I always think that during war time - American soliders and their families should be named Person(s) of the Year. However, naming President George W. Bush to this does encompass all of that, and more. He fought a helluva campaign and won in a country that is so divided on some pretty major issues such as war, terrorism, national security, taxes, education and health care.
He has stood hard and fast on his policies - - love him or hate him, you always know where this man stands.
An ordinary politician tells swing voters what they want to hear; Bush invited them to vote for him because he refused to. Ordinary politicians need to be liked; Bush finds the hostility of his critics reassuring. Challengers run as outsiders, promising change; it’s an extraordinary politician who tries this while holding the title Leader of the Free World. Ordinary Presidents have made mistakes and then sought to redeem themselves by admitting them; when Bush was told by some fellow Republicans that his fate depended on confessing his errors, he blew them off.”
An extraordinary man!
Interview with the President
The Rove Warrior
Don’t Call it a Dynasty
The Benetton-Ad Presidency
Galleries & Graphics: A President’s Life
Path To Power: President’s Family Tree
Paying Homeage: The President visits wounded troops
People Who Mattered: People Who Made the News
In Memorandum: People who Died in 2004
December 19, 2004 - 08:27 AM on December 19th, 2004
I agree with you Lisa! Another picture to add to my collection.:grin:
December 19, 2004 - 08:31 AM on December 19th, 2004
Rock on! The man deserves it!
December 19, 2004 - 08:42 AM on December 19th, 2004
Person of The Year 2004
President George W. Bush is named Time Magazine’s 2004 Person of the Year.
Time made the right choice. I heard the left wanted Michael Moore or Howard Dean.
Pfft.
Love him or hate him - George W. Bush is in a class by himself.
December 19, 2004 - 08:43 AM on December 19th, 2004
Absolutely, peejz - - he photographs well, too!
December 19, 2004 - 08:51 AM on December 19th, 2004
I constantly find myself thinking the same thing you said; you always know where the man stands. If he says he is going to do something, it gets worked on. And he is correct; you can measure a man’s sucess by his critics. I don’t think it is yes people that he surrounds himself with. I think they are people that were hired to do the job he laid forth for them.
And man is that man nice on the eyes:smile:
December 19, 2004 - 09:25 AM on December 19th, 2004
there’s an interesting element of eroticism and romantic love i’ve detected over my last 3,000 or so visits, that appears to show up on little kiity feet towards this fellow, every once in a while.
Just a Girl - your last sentence might be a general statement, but certainly true. [in trackback] what’s a trackback?
December 19, 2004 - 09:35 AM on December 19th, 2004
shiloh - that Just A Girl is always right
December 19, 2004 - 09:37 AM on December 19th, 2004
g’morning Lisa. i think i understand what you mean in 6.
but remember, i’m ‘just a guy’.
December 19, 2004 - 09:48 AM on December 19th, 2004
‘the man of the year’ in Time in ‘82 was a computer.
1935 Haile Selassie
1938 Adolf Hitler
1939 Joseph Stalin
1957 Nikita Krushchev
1958 Charles De Gaulle
1971 Richard Milhous Nixon
1972 Nixon and Kissinger
& my two favorites:
1988 Endangered Earth
1992 Bill Clinton
& just for my own amusement…
1995 Newt Gingrich
i guess the lesson here is, be careful of what club you wish to become a member of.
December 19, 2004 - 09:49 AM on December 19th, 2004
6- You’ve got that right!
December 19, 2004 - 09:52 AM on December 19th, 2004
I don’t think anyone ‘wishes’ to become a part of it - - it just happens. Time Magazine picks the person who was most newsworthy in the year - - not necessarily good or bad . . but the person who generated the most news.
In 2002 they were considering UBL.
Time just made a very good choice this year. Their choice last year was a good one too.
December 19, 2004 - 09:57 AM on December 19th, 2004
Excellant point Lisa! 2 years in a row of good choices!
December 19, 2004 - 09:59 AM on December 19th, 2004
i should have said: be careful of celebrating membership. i appreciate the clarification of the objective nature of being named.
good or bad is not the criteria for the ‘honor’.
December 19, 2004 - 10:01 AM on December 19th, 2004
peejz - you imply it was a ‘good’ choice. was Hitler a ‘bad’ choice?
December 19, 2004 - 10:02 AM on December 19th, 2004
and if the choices are so rife with ‘bad’ ones, who cares what a silly magazine says when they’re ‘wrong’ so much of the time?
smenatics. i’m done.
December 19, 2004 - 10:06 AM on December 19th, 2004
i wonder what the level of interst will be in Time’s selection vs. Sports Illsutrated swimsuit selection.
they’re both pulp entertainment.
December 19, 2004 - 11:31 AM on December 19th, 2004
that and people’s sexiest man alive, shiloh.
i had heard this year’s time person of the year would be “the american voter.” which would have been kinda cool.
but i do love president bush!
December 19, 2004 - 11:33 AM on December 19th, 2004
shiloh, “justagirlintheworld” is lisa’s personal blog. and a trackback is a link to another site.
December 19, 2004 - 11:55 AM on December 19th, 2004
g’morning K. i figured out who Just a Girl was in post 6.
my all time fav is:
1998 Bill Clinton and Kenneth Starr.
thanks re: trackback.
December 19, 2004 - 01:04 PM on December 19th, 2004
I think Bush probably was the most newsworthy person of 2004. As for his steadfastness, its there for a lot of things, but when it comes to others (the assualt weapons ban that he ’supported’ but wouldn’t lobby for is one example). Its hard to think of a more stubborn, close-minded response to the gay-marriage issue than a constitutional amendment; and its hard to consider another country ordering UN weapons inspectors out of a second country so it can be invaded by the first country. Steadfastness vs. stubborness, I guess; only a value judgement seperates them.
December 19, 2004 - 01:39 PM on December 19th, 2004
12-15 - wow, look how bitter you sound. buzzkill.
i think it’s a great honor. good choice. great man.
and to think barbara walters chose karl rove as this year’s most fascinating person - pfffft.
December 19, 2004 - 01:42 PM on December 19th, 2004
Did anyone else get his Christmas card (I think most people did if they contributed to the campaign)? I thought it was so cute how it was postmarked from Texas.
December 19, 2004 - 01:43 PM on December 19th, 2004
was hitler a good choice? Clinton? as stated, it for those who generate the most news and action.
it does not imply value judgements/success or even positive results.
it just is what it is. i was attempting to communicate that to peejz. i think it objectivity you’re objecting to.
December 19, 2004 - 01:46 PM on December 19th, 2004
Yes, Hitler was an excellent choice, as was Clinton (as Monica would have been as well). Who do you think was most newsworthy this year shiloh? Because you obviously have another choice in mind.
December 19, 2004 - 01:48 PM on December 19th, 2004
I had also heard they were considering Mel Gibson along with Michael Moore.
I think THK would have been pretty funny.
December 19, 2004 - 01:50 PM on December 19th, 2004
i’ve always thought the man of the year should be a ‘peacemaker’. not a proponent of war.
Top 11 Reasons Time Magazine Named Bush Man Of The Year…
11. The CIA insisted.
10. He bought 100,000 subscriptions in the Publisher’s Clearinghouse Sweepstakes.
9. Editors making up for overlooking Barbara Bush as Man of the Year.
8. Doug Flutie turned it down.
7. Just another example of the liberal media conspiracy.
6. Four Words: Contributing Editor Antonin Scalia.
5. Dick Cheney’s photograph scares children.
4. Confusing ballots split vote between Al Gore and Pokemon.
3. Newsweek double-dog-dared them.
2. Time confused him with his father, too.
1. He was nearly elected President!
December 19, 2004 - 01:53 PM on December 19th, 2004
could it be a woman too shiloh?
December 19, 2004 - 02:05 PM on December 19th, 2004
Mohammed Mossadegh (Persian: Ù…Øمد مصدق‎) (May 19, 1882 - March 4, 1967) was prime minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953.
he was Time’s man of the year in 1953. he fought against American & British policies that intended to install the Shah as head of government and control oil.
his overthrow by us & the Brits led directly to Islamic fundentalism that is so destructive, & the unrest that led us into Iraq and continues to have disasterous implications.
perhaps, in retrospect, Eisnehower & Dulles should be the men of the year, 50 years later, because i draw a weird historical line bewteeen their decision and 9/11 and Bush being out into the position he finds himself.
this does not change my opinion of the wrongness to invade Iraq.
December 19, 2004 - 02:07 PM on December 19th, 2004
Queen Elizabeth II was ‘man’ of the year in 1952.
after that, women evidentlly ceased being productive, according to Tieme.
December 19, 2004 - 02:09 PM on December 19th, 2004
25 - #1 makes no sense now, i admit. on January 20th [?], 2005, i agree America will have it’s first legitimately elected president since Bill Clinton left office.
December 19, 2004 - 02:50 PM on December 19th, 2004
well, i am off to go watch the pack. hear it’s nice and chilly today for jax
December 19, 2004 - 02:52 PM on December 19th, 2004
c ya
December 19, 2004 - 03:54 PM on December 19th, 2004
The magazine’s editors tapped Bush “for sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes ” and ours ” on his faith in the power of leadership.”
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December 19, 2004 - 04:57 PM on December 19th, 2004
The winner must be “the person or persons who most affected the news and our lives, for good or for ill, and embodied what was important about the year, for better or for worse.”
Jim Kelly/ Time Magazine, Managing Editor
December 19, 2004 - 05:09 PM on December 19th, 2004
to who sees this…the slow loading that happened yesterday just started happening again.
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Do you think President Bush was a good choice for Time magazine’s Person of the Year?
Yes 33% 28686 votes
No 67% 58041 votes
Total: 86727 votes
from cnn.com
i imagine fox might have different numbers
December 19, 2004 - 05:42 PM on December 19th, 2004
33,
By that definition, shiloh, I think that Bush should have been the person of the year last year, moreso than this year. But I think its fair. At least its not Donald Trump. God, I am sick today. Ugg.
December 19, 2004 - 05:48 PM on December 19th, 2004
Wow 35 rplys total and 18 by shiloh. Who would have guessed.
December 19, 2004 - 05:48 PM on December 19th, 2004
sandy, sick as in ill, or politically?
December 19, 2004 - 05:49 PM on December 19th, 2004
sorry peejz. is there a limit i wasn’t aware of? but congragulations on finding another way to insult me.
December 19, 2004 - 05:50 PM on December 19th, 2004
hope you feel better, sandy.
i am sick of brett favre and interceptions.
December 19, 2004 - 05:50 PM on December 19th, 2004
as i said, i’m not a football fan. i give sundays to God & current events.
December 19, 2004 - 05:52 PM on December 19th, 2004
K- are you going to your party?
December 19, 2004 - 05:52 PM on December 19th, 2004
current event: I hate football again.
December 19, 2004 - 05:52 PM on December 19th, 2004
only 4pts K.
December 19, 2004 - 05:53 PM on December 19th, 2004
who are you supporting, football-wise, lee?
December 19, 2004 - 05:53 PM on December 19th, 2004
42- why is that lee?
December 19, 2004 - 05:54 PM on December 19th, 2004
I’m a Bears fan. dammit.
December 19, 2004 - 05:55 PM on December 19th, 2004
But my basketball team won by 37 points. That means #1 for the third straight week!
December 19, 2004 - 05:56 PM on December 19th, 2004
peejz - i asked you an objective question earlier & you chose to ignore it. that’s not the problem. the problem is in the mirror. go to it & read #36 again./
December 19, 2004 - 05:56 PM on December 19th, 2004
45- The score was 24-5. Guess who got 5
December 19, 2004 - 05:56 PM on December 19th, 2004
46- and….
December 19, 2004 - 05:57 PM on December 19th, 2004
lee - sorry. i had picked them in my pool for you.
and damnit MN just squueked by peejz.
oh well, we are guaranteed to be in (probably just one game of) the playoffs.
December 19, 2004 - 05:57 PM on December 19th, 2004
Sorry about the Lions too; at least your game looked more even!
December 19, 2004 - 05:58 PM on December 19th, 2004
against who?
December 19, 2004 - 05:58 PM on December 19th, 2004
46 - well there’s your problem right there.
at least you won, when was it - in the 80’s?
i recognize the provlem - i’ve been a Red Sox fan all my life.
December 19, 2004 - 05:59 PM on December 19th, 2004
yeah, i need to leave in about an hour or so.
December 19, 2004 - 05:59 PM on December 19th, 2004
At least the Packers lost too; that way there’s only one person I can think of here who can give me (us) a hard time!
December 19, 2004 - 06:00 PM on December 19th, 2004
Houston, peejz.
December 19, 2004 - 06:01 PM on December 19th, 2004
54-You can’t see it, but I’m sticking my tongue out at you…
December 19, 2004 - 06:01 PM on December 19th, 2004
56 - shesh, they haven’t lost YET! still some time, but need 2 scores…
December 19, 2004 - 06:01 PM on December 19th, 2004
lions & jaguars & bears, o my.
December 19, 2004 - 06:01 PM on December 19th, 2004
uuuggghhh! Oh well. Are you excited about the party?
December 19, 2004 - 06:01 PM on December 19th, 2004
Yeah peejz, the Texans. It was horrible!
December 19, 2004 - 06:02 PM on December 19th, 2004
How was the church breath K?
December 19, 2004 - 06:03 PM on December 19th, 2004
and if brett can throw to someone in a GREEN uniform, we may be able to pull through.
December 19, 2004 - 06:03 PM on December 19th, 2004
Hey don’t count him out yet!
December 19, 2004 - 06:04 PM on December 19th, 2004
Time’s running out K
December 19, 2004 - 06:04 PM on December 19th, 2004
63 - that’s christmas eve…packers at vikings - my sister and i convinced everyone to go to church the day before
jesus said he understood.
okay, i need to go get dressed up and messed up…
have good nights, guys!
December 19, 2004 - 06:05 PM on December 19th, 2004
60 - that was actually almost funny, shi
66 - you could show a little SUPPORT.
December 19, 2004 - 06:06 PM on December 19th, 2004
Drive safe!
December 19, 2004 - 06:07 PM on December 19th, 2004
Thanks peejz - the place is only about 2 minutes from me!
Man, and ARIZONA is even winning? Did hell freeze over?
December 19, 2004 - 06:11 PM on December 19th, 2004
68-I would rather we all baske in misery together! When the Packers win I have to take a lot of shit from a LOT of people! Not just the few on this board; my brother and my best friend to name a few. So it’s just better for me if the Pack loses…:grin:
December 19, 2004 - 06:20 PM on December 19th, 2004
argh, this dude just NAILED fergusen…i hope he’s okay…
JERK!
December 19, 2004 - 06:32 PM on December 19th, 2004
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GREEN BAY, Wis. - The book “Favre” about Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre, his career and his family is listed the No. 5 best seller on The New York Times list of hardcover nonfiction.
i wonder how many notches it will fall after this game?
December 19, 2004 - 06:33 PM on December 19th, 2004
73 - i guess i didn’t really need the menu.
December 19, 2004 - 06:34 PM on December 19th, 2004
still too many posts, peejz?
December 19, 2004 - 07:04 PM on December 19th, 2004
It was almost a comeback.
And the book is very good, thanks. He’s an all-around good guy, win or lose.
NOW I am leaving.
December 19, 2004 - 11:36 PM on December 19th, 2004
I am back. Had an awesome time! Got my Christmas gift - a gorgeous ornament and 1700 in cash. I have worked for the company for 5 months, so the bonus was really cool!!!!
December 20, 2004 - 07:22 AM on December 20th, 2004
Merry Christmas K! That is a wonderful gift. I collect ornaments, so I actually was more excited about that than the check!:smile:
December 20, 2004 - 08:31 AM on December 20th, 2004
40. Shiloh, Sunday is for God, what is monday for, the ACLU? Ha!
Just had to throw that in there.
December 20, 2004 - 09:02 AM on December 20th, 2004
congrats K.
and Merry Christmas to all and god bless the President of the United States of America.
December 20, 2004 - 10:29 AM on December 20th, 2004
God Bless.
December 20, 2004 - 10:44 AM on December 20th, 2004
Wow, $1700 after five months! You must be doing a great job K! Congrats
I can usually add that much to my credit card debt in five months…
Sorry about being mean to the Pack; I suppose I should just suck up the abuse (since I usually deserve it) and be supportive
December 20, 2004 - 01:09 PM on December 20th, 2004
thanks to peejz and kilo.
82 - thanks lee, i was surprised. the cool thing is, that is net, not gross…so no taxes. i can definitely use it right now!
you can pull for them on friday, how is that?
December 20, 2004 - 02:26 PM on December 20th, 2004
83 - Ok, but only for you, K. And I can’t let my brother or best friend know I’m rooting for Green Bay; I’d never hear the end of it
I just got my own sorta bonus; I went to my grad school interview, and we spent the time talking about how they were going to finance me up to 50%. Whether I was accepted or not was never an issue! The secretary’s running my paperwork to admissions by hand and I should be able to register for classes in a couple days. I even had a choice of offices! They want me bad
December 20, 2004 - 02:53 PM on December 20th, 2004
Congrats, Lee!!!
December 20, 2004 - 03:03 PM on December 20th, 2004
Way to go Lee! “Go smart people!”
I spent some time on your site, and came away, once again, feeling stupid.:lol: Way above my head.
December 20, 2004 - 04:33 PM on December 20th, 2004
Thanks guys!
TAC - the number one rule of scientific writing is that the quality of the paper is directly proportional to the number of people you can confuse. Bonus points if you can confuse a professor
Were you on my homepage or the digital demo room website?
December 20, 2004 - 04:36 PM on December 20th, 2004
87 - i went to both places and was first confused, then more confused!
congragulations on your success!
December 20, 2004 - 04:39 PM on December 20th, 2004
I’ll make professor some day!!!
Plus thanks for visiting the site; my boss gets thrilled when the “guest” counter keeps rolling…
December 20, 2004 - 11:12 PM on December 20th, 2004
Are you trolling for hits now?:lol:
December 20, 2004 - 11:54 PM on December 20th, 2004
I never really thought of it that way. All I wanted to do was show off how big my brain is
December 21, 2004 - 07:30 PM on December 21st, 2004
The Ayatullah Khomeini was Man-of-the-Year. Stalin was Man-of-the-Year — twice, just like Bush.
If you read the article, Bush got re-elected President while being repeatedly wrong:
For sharpening the debate until the choices bled, for reframing reality to match his design, for gambling his fortunes”and ours”on his faith in the power of leadership, George W. Bush is TIME’s 2004 Person of the Year. “
Keep cheerin’. It’s a long way down…
December 21, 2004 - 08:37 PM on December 21st, 2004
dg, so nice of you to put Charman Mao’s little red book long enough to grace us with you pittiful comments.
You should be proud that Stalin was a 2 time awardee. You also forgot to mention that FDR was one also.
F you commie scum.
I have the Solution.
December 21, 2004 - 08:39 PM on December 21st, 2004
pitiful, sorry
December 22, 2004 - 11:37 PM on December 22nd, 2004
the man of the year seems to be positioning education further & further away from those who need the opportunity most…Students to Bear More of the Cost of College
ollege students in virtually every state will be required to shoulder more of the cost of their education under new federal rules that govern most of the nation’s financial aid.
people are being left behind
more tax cuts anybody?
December 23, 2004 - 02:01 PM on December 23rd, 2004
RE: #93
TAC has gazed into the abyss. . .
*Have ya knawed on Rummy’s septar lately?
December 23, 2004 - 02:06 PM on December 23rd, 2004
wow.. you mean some f-ing pampered 19 year olds might actually have to shoulder some of the costs of their own educations? LIke the rest of us? who served in the military, took out loans, worked part-time jobs…..the horror.
Let’s see, SOME 19 year old heros are manning machine guns and fighting muslim animals, yet $hitloh seems only concered with the ones who may or may not have beer money after buying textbooks….yeah… he loves this country.
December 23, 2004 - 02:07 PM on December 23rd, 2004
typical liberal…… blame the president…blame white men..blame congress…blame anyone.
Don’t f-ing heap any actual burden on the ever-narrowing shoulders of American youth to f-ing fend for themselves, maybe actually learning the value of education…….oh no, not when we can GIVE it away….
you dick.
December 23, 2004 - 02:11 PM on December 23rd, 2004
Power is what drives the megalomaniac. You strive towards increasing your power and wealth, by any means necessary. There are only two classes of people in your world: those who are weak and those who do not deserve the power they have.